The education market is declining the iPads because Apple hasn't addressed the needs of the schools...major, major blunder on their part.
Sources?
man i'm sold. don't want to relearn Windows keyboards
Perfect opportunity for Apple to "catch-up" to the Surface by making the iPad pro run OS X. That would shake things up a bit, and make a really great super mobile computer — usable even in-flight with the person in front of you leaning back their seat.![]()
iPad doesn't have to run OS X, for that you have Macbooks.
iPad needs to run iOS Pro with multitasking (the single thing arguably which it is lacking most), cursor support and precision. Which is next iOS
Amen. The jailbreaking community has clearly shown that a cursor/mouse can easily be added and useful. Do that Apple, and I'll have one less reason to go behind your back and jailbreak!
it is certainly possible (and probably quite easy) to do something along these lines but simply mashing together two OSes like that is a terrible idea. OS X is absolutely not optimized for touch - small menu icons, multiple submenus, right-clicking, option clicking, space bar etc. none of this will work on touch interface. so Apple would need to either completely redesign OS X or do something like what windows 8 does and keep the two environments totally separate. The former might be possible but it would be an absolutely major undertaking (involving not just Apple but 3rd party devs) and there have been no hints at all that Apple is going there. the latter provides very bad user experience and Apple will never go for it.Why not do similar to Microsoft and use a modified version of the iOS simulator for running iPad apps? All that would need to be added is the hooks into the main OS to access whatever peripherals there are. Now you'd have a device that would run both OSX and iOS apps essentially side by side. The simulator stores its data directly on the OSX filesystem so there's even potential for sharing of files (though in Apple tradition they would figure out a way to make not so straight forward).
I'm guessing the biggest issue with all this is Apple thinking this would be "ugly". ie, switching to OSX desktop for OSX apps and iOS style interface for iOS apps. I used to think that was annoying in Windows as well, until I actually used one.
The best part there is iOS apps can still be written as they are and would work without issue by default. They could then even add more features to the SDK to allow for advanced interaction with OSX and the hardware.
The iPad pro already came out. It's called the Macbook retina
Sounds like you use your SP3 primarily as an ultrabook rather than a 2-in-1. For those purposes, there are some excellent alternatives like the 2015 Dell XPS 13.I'm a relatively dedicated mac user (laptops, desktops, phones) at home. My daughters have a couple of iPad minis too as it works for them, but for me the iPad has never really offered anything. I bought the original gen, but have never fealt compelled to upgrade.
For work though, my main machine is a Surface Pro 3 and I love it. The keyboard, wireless mouse, the USB port, the display port and that brilliant kick stand. Add to that the fact that I am running desktop apps and it's knockout for me. I know numerous companies are moving away from iPads, towards surface pros as they are a 2 for 1 for most users.
I cant see why there would be any real market for a larger iPad if it continues to run iOS and have no decent ports.
Someone explain it to me.
It is clear, at least to me anyways (and i alluded to this in my previous post) that this is the direction that Apple has been headed in for quite some time. In the meantime, the mythical iPad Pro could be an incremental step in that direction.For me, a surface pro style machine that runs OSX and therefore virtualised windows if required, that has detacheable keyboard (windows, OS X configs), that could also flip to iOS and take advantage of the App Store would be a killer device. That's what we need, not a larger iPad which already has declining sales.
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I'm on the edge of getting a Surface Pro 3 . . . . so please keep me in the ecosystem Apple.
Sounds like you use your SP3 primarily as an ultrabook rather than a 2-in-1. For those purposes, there are some excellent alternatives like the 2015 Dell XPS 13.
The kickstand is "brilliant" in that it is an integrated way to prop up a tablet, but inferior when using it as a notebook. Having owned a few Surface devices and comparing my experience with them to an actual hinged mechanism like the one on the Aspire Switch 11, I can say that the kickstand is a compromise. The touchpad on the TypeCover tarnishes the user experience as well.
One reason why there is (growing?) interest in an iPad Pro-type device is because of the richness of the software available for the platform. Comparing an iPad to an SP3 with regard to tablet functionality, there is no comparison... the SP3 still fall shorts... not because of any hardware limitations but because of the software that is available (or not available). The situation has steadily improved however.
A hypothetical iPad Pro that:
- supports pointing devices (like a mouse, presentation remote, etc.)
- larger screen
- multi-window
- active digitizer
- keyboard cover
would be appealing and provide a significant improvement to usability/functionality.
It is clear, at least to me anyways (and i alluded to this in my previous post) that this is the direction that Apple has been headed in for quite some time. In the meantime, the mythical iPad Pro could be an incremental step in that direction.
The new Macbook took a step closer from the ultrabook side, the iPad Pro would take it a step closer from the tablet side. The step after THAT would be a device that merged the two.
LOL If Apple delivers an iPad Pro as I described, that 1st gen device will be terrific IMO. The GTab Pro 8.4 does a very nice job with multi-window, bluetooth keyboard and mouse... To have a larger, iOS version of that, well, I'm more than ready.I hope you are correct. It means that r1 iPad pro is no good though.
It only "doesn't need it" until Apple puts it in. Then, it will need it and wishes for any other amount of RAM- including the former RAM standard- will be entirely wrong.
In another thread, a rumored newTV doesn't need 4K. There's 50 reasons why, which are pretty much the very same reasons why- when gen 2
TV was the current product- no one needed a 1080p
TV.
In another thread, NFC technology was stupid or a gimmick that 99% don't want or need in a phone. Then, Apple adopts NFC and we want to boycott stores that won't let us pay with Apple Pay.
In another thread, iPads do not need front-facing cameras when iPads were the new thing. There were 50 passionate reasons why such a camera would be stupid in an iPad. Then, Apple rolled out iPad 2 with FaceTime and the biggest reason to upgrade was... can you guess?
<anything not in current Apple hardware for sale> is "not needed" until Apple puts it in. Then it can magically become THE "shut up and take my money" reason to buy the new model.
I'm with you on this particular topic. A multitasking, 64-bit OS with pinched RAM almost doesn't make sense. I hope a "pro" model brings more RAM too. It will probably be priced so that unit cost can't really be an excuse.
iPad pro is the new macbook.
I'd rather have a Surface Pro 3, to be honest.
Full OS.
Make it the Retina Macbook screen without the keyboard running OS X.
I'm on the edge of getting a Surface Pro 3 . . . . so please keep me in the ecosystem Apple.
yes, absolutely. a good stylus means a pressure sensitive active stylus as far as I am concerned.
That's still cool though. Pretty clever of the company to smoke out their leakers like that. I really hope this iPad Pro with stylus support is legit. Especially if it has stylus support.I don't remember exactly, but it was reported in Macrumours many years ago. It wasn't anything significant, just some sort of adapter/converter for the iPad.
When using a physical keyboard, the mouse is superior and the most natural pointing device.I don't see the point of mouse support, for a touch based interface the finger is a superior (and the most natural) pointing device.
That would add unnecessary expense and complexity to a non "pro" system designed primarily for content consumption.If they ever add support for higher resolution pen input, that should then be included in all models not only a "pro" version in my opinion.