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Great specs, but I'm a little confused as to why it's a dual core not a triple core. It's still is awesome, and I can't wait to test this guy out.


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This worries me a bit. What if the Air 3 goes back to Dual-Core? Should I just get a Air 2 and deal with the slower clock speed?
 
I know some people are not going to be happy that Apple went back to a dual-core design, but that single-core score is just crazy! In my opinion, this foreshadows the future A10 GeekBench scores, since it will probably still be dual-core.

Also, I guess this means that Apple will be king in single-core scores while Samsung will be king in multi-core scores ;)
 
This worries me a bit. What if the Air 3 goes back to Dual-Core? Should I just get a Air 2 and deal with the slower clock speed?

Depends on the apps. Going wide (more cores) helps when apps are multithreaded on something like the iPad. But if apps aren't doing multithreaded work or spend a lot of their threads waiting on I/O, you want faster single core performance. I know the apps that I work on benefit more from the faster single core performance than more cores. But that speaks to the type of app I do work on, than it does all apps.
 
In terms of chip design Apple destroys even Intel. Unbelievable. Its Ivy Bridge Core i7 performance levels in Single Thread. Ridiculous.

As for GPU.
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http://anandtech.com/show/9780/taking-notes-with-ipad-pro/2 More here.

Check this post: http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost.php?p=37826655&postcount=19
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Geez Louise! Cannot wait to put this bad boy through its paces. Just a bigger Ipad? Yeah, right. :)
 
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Arstchnica review said:
Things are even more impressive on the GPU side, where the OpenGL version of the GFXBench test shows the A9X beating not just every previous iDevice, but every Intel GPU up to and including the Intel Iris Pro 5200 in the 15-inch MacBook Pro and the Intel HD 520 in the Surface Pro 4. Once we see Iris and Iris Pro chips from the Skylake family, Intel may be on top again, but those aren’t due out until early next year, and they only ship in the fastest of Apple’s products.

In the Onscreen tests, which render scenes at the screen’s native resolution rather than the standard 1080p of the Offscreen test, you can see that most (but not all) of that GPU performance increase is being dedicated to driving the higher-resolution screen. It’s still faster than the iPad Air 2 by a bit, but an A8X and an A9X rendering the same thing at their respective tablets’ native resolutions will look more-or-less the same. When Apple bumps the resolution of iDevices, it can sometimes take its GPUs a generation or so to really catch up (this was the case with the first-generation Retina iPad, the first Retina MacBook Pros, and the iPhone 6 Plus), but it looks like the A9X is more than up to the task of driving the iPad Pro’s screen smoothly.
More here. http://arstechnica.com/apple/2015/1...-all-the-virtues-and-limitations-of-ios/4/#h2

Holy cow...

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It is still extremely impressive.
 
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way overkill for iPad packed in iOS environment to me....

Incredibly insane performance numbers!!

Mango is right......for now.

I believe Apple intended for that tremendous amount of CPU/GPU power to be there for a reason, the (near) future.
 
So much for double the CPU performance... Comes close in single core, but no where near double in multicore. To be honest I'm wondering if I should cancel my order as this improvement just seems like standard progress on a yearly upgrade cycle!? What's so pro about it? The same OS as a mini and an iPhone for that matter, ok it has a bigger screen and better speakers but the same ppi range, the same lightning connector...

I'm sad now :( been waiting for this for three years... But it seems next years "pro" will more than likely wipe the floor with this first iteration... Am I wrong?
 
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So much for double the CPU performance... Comes close in single core, but no where near double in multicore. To be honest I'm wondering if I should cancel my order as this improvement just seems like standard progress on a yearly upgrade cycle!? What's so pro about it? The same OS as a mini and an iPhone for that matter, ok it has a bigger screen and better speakers but the same ppi range, the same lightning connector...

I'm sad now :( been waiting for this for three years... But it seems next years "pro" will more than likely wipe the floor with this first iteration... Am I wrong?
Yea, all that power feels like a complete waste being on iOS.
 
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The same OS as a mini and an iPhone for that matter, ok it has a bigger screen and better speakers but the same ppi range the same lightning connector...

I don't know if this is true, but CNET reported:

"There's no USB port on this iPad, but the Lightning port supports USB 3-level speeds with forthcoming adapters"

We'll have to wait on the teardown to see if the new lightning port has the extra 2 differential pairs to achieve USB 3.0 speeds, but if it does this would be great progress
 
I don't know if this is true, but CNET reported:

"There's no USB port on this iPad, but the Lightning port supports USB 3-level speeds with forthcoming adapters"

We'll have to wait on the teardown to see if the new lightning port has the extra 2 differential pairs to achieve USB 3.0 speeds, but if it does this would be great progress

Thanks for this info, I didn't know that. However, with no real functionality in iOS to access and manage external media what is the point?

This is the main reason iPad pro is useless to me, I have an external HDD with hundreds of unorganised family photos that I want to sort out, and hundreds of music albums I ripped in the past, however I have no desktop machine. According to what Apple is saying the iPad pro will replace a desktop, well how can it with the very simple aforementioned task?
 
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Single core scores seems to be comparable to a Core i5 iMac. That means that the typical foreground app will perform fairly well compared to the desktop computer equivalent. Not bad for something that can go without a power cord for hours.
 
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Single core scores seems to be comparable to a Core i5 iMac. That means that the typical foreground app will perform fairly well compared to the desktop computer equivalent. Not bad for something that can go without a power cord for hours.

Gets absolutely smashed in multicore though... Hopefully next years model has a quad core with a similar or even higher clock speed. That would be worth a look. If iOS is improved that is.
 
Great specs, but I'm a little confused as to why it's a dual core not a triple core.

Apple probably has data on the percentage of customers (even "power users") who run apps that actually benefit from that 3rd core, and how often. Those numbers might be lower than you think. Whereas typical UI responsiveness is all about single core CPU + GPU speed.
 
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According to what Apple is saying the iPad pro will replace a desktop ...

For many users. But not for your task.

Just a few percent of the PC user base is millions of customers. Millions is many.

And in a few years, even fewer people will be doing exactly the same thing they did 5 or 10 years ago. They'll move on to some newer projects.
 
For many users. But not for your task.

Just a few percent of the PC user base is millions of customers. Millions is many.

And in a few years, even fewer people will be doing exactly the same thing they did 5 or 10 years ago. They'll move on to some newer projects.

The thought of buying some crappy Windows laptop for a third of the price of an iPad Pro and it being more powerful, in that it can do more, is just worrying o_O
 
The thought of buying some crappy Windows laptop for a third of the price of an iPad Pro and it being more powerful ...

More powerful at some things. Less powerful at others. Depends on what each user wants to do.

Time will tell whether artists and editors will get more stuff done on iPad Pros, or on iMacs and laptops tethered to Wacoms.
 
However, with no real functionality in iOS to access and manage external media what is the point?

Agreed. IOS needs some form of Finder to function as a desktop or laptop replacement. But if the hardware is capable with a Lightning port capable of USB 3.0 speeds and the port supplies the required 900ma output, you could attach a portable USB 3.0 drive as external storage. All we would need is the Finder functionality.

Can't wait for the iFixit teardown!
 
Thanks for this info, I didn't know that. However, with no real functionality in iOS to access and manage external media what is the point?

That has nothing to do with the CPU performance. When the apps in near future will take advantage of that performance everyone will be blown away. This kind of performance is going to change what we imagine mobile devices are capable of.
 
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