iPad Pro ipad Pro+macOS

[fokmik]

1 Now, that we see what this new Samsung S7+keyboard and trackpad can do with their on device DEX....
2 Now, that the next macOS Big Sur is made for Apple Silicone (arm architecture)....

From those 2 things i think Apple will miss a really big opportunity not to deliver a really great combo device

Check this video and think about it on the ipad pro instead android you are running ipadOS, obviously ,but instead of DEX, you are runing macOS Big Sur with ipad pros keyboard and trackpad accessory

 

[AutomaticApple]

1 Now, that we see what this new Samsung S7+keyboard and trackpad can do with their on device DEX....
2 Now, that the next macOS Big Sur is made for Apple Silicone (arm architecture)....

From those 2 things i think Apple will miss a really big opportunity not to deliver a really great combo device

Check this video and think about it on the ipad pro instead android you are running ipadOS, obviously ,but instead of DEX, you are runing macOS Big Sur with ipad pros keyboard and trackpad accessory

Apple (Phil Schiller in specific) has been pretty vocal about not adding touch support to macOS, so I can’t imagine it happening.

 

[fokmik]

Apple (Phil Schiller in specific) has been pretty vocal about not adding touch support to macOS, so I can’t imagine it happening.

They told us a lot of things , that with time, they changed
And since macs are going arm....i suspect some touch macs will come....just look, if you use the beta of Big Sur, how the UI has changed...its clear you can touch almost everything very easy even with your finger, not just with the cursor
Something that windows failed to do since windows 8
And again...macOS is not forced to work under touch...just only when you connect the keyboard and the trackpad and lunch the macOS...this way the OS remains touch free

 

[AutomaticApple]

They told us a lot of things , that with time, they changed

They tested a touchscreen mac, but it was no good.

2016

Phil Schiller Says Apple Tested and Rejected Touch Screen Macs, Finding It 'Absurd' on a Desktop

Apple's senior vice president of worldwide marketing, Phil Schiller, recently continued the company's stance against turning its desktop and...

www.macrumors.com

2019

Phil Schiller: Nope, Apple still isn’t planning to make a touchscreen Mac

Apple isn't going to release a touchscreen Mac any time soon, says Phil Schiller, SVP of Marketing. In a new interview, Schiller chimed in on the question

www.cultofmac.com

Even Steve Jobs didn't like the idea.

2010

Steve Jobs: Touchscreen Laptops Don't Work

www.businessinsider.com

 

[ericwn]

Totally agree with AutomaticApple, I don’t see a touchscreen Mac on the horizon. The way I see them moving forward is not trying to bring the Mac over to where the iPad is.

 

[BATman.Berlin]

I went through several surface devices and in the office have a lenovo with touchscreen. I used the Lenovo touch capability twice. With the surface, I used it 99% in laptop mode.
Different with the iPad, because it is designed from the ground up for finger/stylus interaction.
2 in 1’s don’t appeal to me, because they want to bridge where no river wants to be bridged.

There is ONE exception though: I had the luxury to test a Surface studio for an design project a while ago and boy did I enjoy that thing. Why? Because it was designed for specific purpose (design/creation) from the ground up.
2 in 1’s are compromise and not specialized, therefore a fail IMO.

 

[Apple_Robert]

I don’t see this happening and don’t think I would like it on a MBP.

 

[H2K03]

What if the touchscreen Mac is the iPad Pro? What if Apple allows the user the option to run either Mac OS or iPadOS on the iPad Pro? I don’t think this is that far off. I would be happy if they just bring pro apps to the iPad which I believe they’ve already said they will (Final Cut Pro/Logic, etc.) but wouldn’t it be amazing to run Mac OS on the iPad?

 

[Marlon DLTH :)]

What if the touchscreen Mac is the iPad Pro? What if Apple allows the user the option to run either Mac OS or iPadOS on the iPad Pro? I don’t think this is that far off. I would be happy if they just bring pro apps to the iPad which I believe they’ve already said they will (Final Cut Pro/Logic, etc.) but wouldn’t it be amazing to run Mac OS on the iPad?

They should create a tool similar to Boot Camp for the iPad to run MacOS on it. iPadOS will still the default (it’s better for most iPad users), but we will have the possibility to run MacOS on it.

 

[hovscorpion12]

Making a touchscreen Mac doesn't really make sense since we have mouse and keyboard support since day 1, 1990. There's no reason to.

That does not mean that Apple can not adopt a few MacOS features for iPadOS. iPadOS can be the subtle link between the two. As the iPad begins to be more powerful, we will see a lot MacOS trickle down. I do believe Apple has a more powerful iPad ready for Oct.

 

[fokmik]

Here is about ipad pro, not about macs
We are on ipad pro forum
Is about running ipados in normal tablet mode, but when you dock the ipad into the magic keyboard with trackpad to run macos big sur

 

[fokmik]

Running ipados on magickeyboard with mouse or trackpad without desktop UI is a miss opportunity
Again, check that video to see what i mean, but instead of limited dex, to run big sur

 

[0128672]

Here is about ipad pro, not about macs
We are on ipad pro forum
Is about running ipados in normal tablet mode, but when you dock the ipad into the magic keyboard with trackpad to run macos big sur

No thanks for that crossover. I only use my iPad Pro in the MK and don't want it to suddenly become macOS. I want to use iPadOS!

 

[muzzy996]

@fokmik - chances are that to get what you’re hoping for the solution isn’t to “run macos big sur” on the iPad but rather to have desktop class applications run on iPadOS. I can’t imagine having an Apple machine magically switch completely from one operating system to another seamlessly while preserving user access to all files and the associated user level security simply by attaching certain accessories. It just doesn’t seem like a prudent thing to do either from a resource perspective (storage requirements to house both OS’s etc.) or from a security one.

Apple moving back to their own silicon is certainly a step in the right direction for the development of apps that work on both platforms (iOS and MacOS). We’re quite a ways away though, maybe in a couple of years we’ll see some breakthrough.

 

[Digitalguy]

MacOS on ipad is not happening because this would push more people to buy only ipads instead of mac and ipads... But Apple will improve sidecar to make macos run smoothly on your ipad with touch (now you cannot use touch) and as the only device (not just secondary screen). Big Sur is perfect to be run with sidecar... So you can have IpadOS and when you need macos just use you ipad with sidecar, without ever touching or opening your mac. This way people car run macos on their ipads, at least at home, and Apple will keep selling both... Maybe apple could make a smaller mac mini with Apple Silicon for this purpose too...

 

[ejin222]

I'm with you OP. Come on, Apple. Multitasking on iPadOS is average at best. To be able to move windows around like in MacOS is simply... better. But it would probably work best on the Pros only.

I get the whole argument that MacOS was built with mouse and keyboard, but the iPad was built on touch only. But look at iPads now.

Apple has the ability to create THE best touchscreen tablet/laptop at this point but it seems that finances are the main driving points as to why they don't. It's definitely not because lack of ability.

I'm all about merging iPadOS and MacOS IF ONLY to bring MacOS apps over to iPadOS. There is, without a doubt, no one who prefers iPadOS apps over their MacOS counterparts. I mean, Zoom on iPadOS is terrible. Zoom on MacOS is much better. Same goes with Microsoft and Adobe apps and who knows how many others.

I, for one, would LOVE to see my iPad Pro do what Samsung does with DEX. What other device would you ever need? That, coupled with LTE/5G capabilities, and I would never need to purchase another device again.

 

[Precursor]

It is inevitable

 

[mminbcn]

It amazes me how many people are missing the point.

Nobody is asking for MacOS to have a touch interface. Hell, if they DISABLED the touch interface on the iPad Pro while MacOS was running I'd be completely fine with it. We just want an option to RUN MacOS natively on the iPad Pro. That's it.

Now... the argument about whether this makes business sense, or if it will cannibalize sales of other products, etc... that's a completely different argument that people can have.

Nobody wants to take away iOS from the iPad, we are just wishing for a dual boot option. The form factor is just an amazing opportunity for MacOS.

 

[Marlon DLTH :)]

Nobody wants to take away iOS from the iPad, we are just wishing for a dual boot option.

This. iPadOS is the default, and it always should be. But why don't they allow us to install macOS on it? Like BootCamp.

 

[fokmik]

Nobody is asking for MacOS to have a touch interface

Who is saying that?
Im just saying after using the tab s7, when you dock your ipad pro into your magic keyboard with trackpad to automatically run desktop UI
its far better UI for keyboard and trackpad than its on ipadOs
So you can use desktop UI with keyboard and trackpad/mouse NOT touch
Ipados is for touch

 

[fokmik]

Apple clearly wants to unify the macs and ipads..no wonder macs will run ipads apps so it will be nice that ipad will have macs UI at least when you are using it in dock mode
I guess nobody here has or tried the tab S7 Dex to understand what im saying

 

[ericwn]

Apple clearly wants to unify the macs and ipads..no wonder macs will run ipads apps so it will be nice that ipad will have macs UI at least when you are using it in dock mode
I guess nobody here has or tried the tab S7 Dex to understand what im saying

I believe for the very near future Apple’s idea is to bring iPad apps to the Mac to enhance the software offerings there. macOS isn’t coming to iPad but maybe in the future they incorporate more and more of the Mac’s functionality over, starting with proper support for external displays in their own resolution and then hopefully making changes to make apps more powerful too.

Reverting back even partially to an OS that is much older than ioS will seems like a desaster from a marketing perspective and Apple will likely have none of that.

 

[Internaut]

I tend to think a lot about the long game. Microsoft, Apple, Google, Amazon... I'm surprised Android tablets are still a thing. In the Googleverse, surely Chrome OS is the future of the tablet (evidenced by Lenovo's "one tablet crying in the wilderness" Chromebook Duet). Tablet, laptop, desktop all in one? Microsoft so very nearly got it right. What happens next? I think iPad OS and MacOS each take on capabilities of each other, over time. I don't know if there will ever be just one OS since, at the moment, one is a very sterile world while the other is fundamentally UNIX (shell, awk, sed and all) with all all the best lipstick.

 

[ejin222]

This. iPadOS is the default, and it always should be. But why don't they allow us to install macOS on it? Like BootCamp.

Yes! More than any other "feature" that MacOS has is that I want desktop apps, especially Microsoft Office. I can do 99% of all I need to do on my iPad Pro except for the limitations of mobile Microsoft Office apps. Th.is is the only reason why I go back to my Mac Mini

 

[muzzy996]

On the deep dive side of things how are you all expecting this kind of thing to get accomplished? I’m talking file system level/disk level kind of thing. Fundamentally iOS is intentionally a sandboxed system so I’m curious what the anticipation is for the adoption of dual booting and its implication in terms of storage requirements that the market would possibly have to bear in order to be supported. Totally not impossible on the pro line I’m sure, particularly in larger storage variants, but a little unrealistic to be available for every ipad (not that anyone implied that this is what is expected).