Speaking of missing the point... there are options - like tethering a wifi only model to a phone if you're somewhere there's no wifi...
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iPad Pro - pure greed
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Speaking of missing the point... there are options - like tethering a wifi only model to a phone if you're somewhere there's no wifi...
This reminds me a lot of Tesla.
I want a Tesla car, but I need ludicrous mode so i can go 0-60 in 2.8 seconds. They want to charge me $10,000 for the upgrade though! They're forcing me to spend an extra 10 grand to get the functionality i want......can't beleive a company can be so greedy.
I want a Tesla car, but I need ludicrous mode so i can go 0-60 in 2.8 seconds. They want to charge me $10,000 for the upgrade though! They're forcing me to spend an extra 10 grand to get the functionality i want......can't beleive a company can be so greedy.
For $799, I think customers should've gotten at least a 64GB for their money. Then $899 for 128GB, following the usual pricing, along with a Smart Case for one price--not a Smart Cover and back protector for $59 and $79...its just a lot to buy. Then you have the Pencil for $99 to consider too...
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I believe you miss the point of the 32GB model. It's most likely designed for companies who use it purely for editing and store all multimedia assets on some sort of company-wide storage system. Think Disney artists editing scenes on their iPad Pros and then checking in their work with the central project server. No need for 128GB of storage. Also, having WiFi only is beneficial for security to prevent employees from potentially leaking sensitive data beyond the walls of the organisation.
I believe that Apple see the 128GB model as the core product and are simply offering that with or without cellular. The 32GB model is probably for special cases such as that above.
You might argue that they could have had a 32GB cellular model but that would be another SKU with associated costs. Once you go down this road of "one more SKU" you can quickly end up out of control. What about a 64GB model? Also bear in mind that Apple already provide all these devices in 3 colours (colors for US folks
) so it would actually be 3 more SKUs. Each SKU increases inventory complexity and cost and raises the cost for all of us.I have to agree with the profit driven statement but only when it relates to mac computers. The iPad pro is real value if you consider the windows counterpart. Its actually one of the few products apple makes that is 'reasonably' priced given what it can do.
There's very many things I can't afford. It's something you, me and many others have in common.
I believe my original point (from Nov 2015...) was addressed with the new smaller version of iPad Pro; I believe it has a 32GB model with mobile.
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I never said I couldn't afford it.
i love these comments , you know how much money in R&D it would take to just add a cellular modem......ALOT.
its not just plugging in a USB drive.
get a grip.
I don't think it's greed, I think it's panic. Apple see the sales figures sliding, first in Mac, then iPad and now iPhone. Innovation is failing as the platforms mature so how do you maintain profits to keep shareholders happy? Increase the prices. Look at the price bump for the iPad Pro (and remember that the introcution of the retina deiplay hand no associated price rise) and MBP along with the high price of the rMB. It really wouldn't surprise me if the OLED iPhone rumoured for 2017 jacks up the price as well. The real trouble comes when the sales fall even further due to the higher prices...
What Innovacion should we be seeing with the iPad and Mac that we aren't right now? Please list specifics
I see we have the classic "shareholders" defense when it comes to the accusation of greed on the part of Apple. Let's just reword things, shall we? One of the greatest signs of mismanagement at Apple has to be the iPad line. Since its peak in 2013, Apple is now selling less than half the amount of iPads. As a result, the iPad is generating significantly less profits than it was in 2013. I think it's safe to say that this isn't to the best interest of shareholders.
If Tim Cook had the fortitude, he'd create a team dedicated to designing iOS for the iPad. This team would be designated with the task of developing iOS to be better suited as a device for professional use while maintaining the iPad's current ability to consume. This would involve trackpad support as well as the ability to plug into monitors.
The iPad *is* a powerful computer, and if Apple took proper steps it could replace laptops/desktops for large portions of consumers and professionals. The problem is I don't think Tim Cook can stomach the risk that would involve. He'd see such a team as an unnecessary expense, and the R&D required would be considered too risky. He's a CEO mainly for maintaining the status quo which would be fine for Coca Cola, but not in the computer industry where you need to be a couple of years ahead of the competition.
If Tim Cook had the fortitude, he'd create a team dedicated to designing iOS for the iPad. This team would be designated with the task of developing iOS to be better suited as a device for professional use while maintaining the iPad's current ability to consume. This would involve trackpad support as well as the ability to plug into monitors.
The iPad *is* a powerful computer, and if Apple took proper steps it could replace laptops/desktops for large portions of consumers and professionals. The problem is I don't think Tim Cook can stomach the risk that would involve. He'd see such a team as an unnecessary expense, and the R&D required would be considered too risky. He's a CEO mainly for maintaining the status quo which would be fine for Coca Cola, but not in the computer industry where you need to be a couple of years ahead of the competition.
Well said. Especially the part about Coca Cola CEO. You cannot just say something is PRO, you have to do something to MAKE it that way.
Very good joke. Because all products being sold worldwide do exactly what they say? How many things are labeled sport or smart and in reality it's just a marketing name. Do you think all MacBook Pro users are professionals of sorts?
IN MY OPINION I think that many would like to use the iPad "Pro" for a main or mostly main computerbut are unable to becasue of lack of mouse/trackpad feature and like the OP said, make IOS more PRODUCTIVITY friendly. Can you say "backlit keyboard"? Thankfully, one or two other companies have stepped up here.
in 2016 I see no reason or excuse for not having a portable computing device without a backlit keyboard. I had to custom order that "feature" on a Lenovo laptop recently purchased. A Business Class laptop. I was appalled.
My point is that you seemed to get hung up on a marketing term.
I like backlit key as well, and Apple knew Logitech would make one, it was immediately available. So that user group with the need for those backlit keys is taken care of. Wether that is a proven booster for productivity, I can only speculate. Mac Pro and iMac don't have such keyboards and people work on those all day, too. It's a nice to have convenient feature.
The computer in my sig does not have one either I have a hard time finding a keyboard that I like AND is backlit. Maybe I should just get a keyboard USB light for this keyboard And yeah I figured that Apple and Logitech would converse, but still would like to see an Apple version. Because when Apple does something right they can really knock it out of the park.
I have a hard time finding a keyboard that I like AND is backlit. Maybe I should just get a keyboard USB light for this keyboard And yeah I figured that Apple and Logitech would converse, but still would like to see an Apple version. Because when Apple does something right they can really knock it out of the park.Here's my issue - are these features you want to see on the iPad regardless of what it's called, or are these features dependent on Apple calling it the "Pro"?
Agree completely. I wish people would just give up on "Pro" having certain requirements. There's no requirement for calling it "Pro" - and people who think there should be want to see those features on the iPad regardless of what it's called.
That's not the only "goal" of any company. Some greedy people say claim so, but doesn't make it true.
Their are products out there that sucker customers. Shame on whomever does that.