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Just seems..... odd. I don't know a ton of people begging for a 13" tablet. It will be fairly heavy, and I just can't imagine business or creatives picking this thing up unless it adds additional functionality on the OS level (power user features).

Your not thinking my friend! Artist of art, design,music ? Just name it ,can use the thin portability and yes I believe they have been talking about the desk top operating system! Aviation and pilots with the bigger screens for their charts! Plenty of folks many precessionals will be all over this! Just a side note, it still has to come with some beef inside and not a toy, build it right and they come!!
 
Good for the Stereo speakers, although this is late coming..

Thinner - bigger (???)....


I can see more Youtuse videos circulation about the "bending" issue of the iPhone 6 Plus.

We just can't help ourselves, can we.
 
When the iPad first came out, I thought that having a larger size would be perfect as a replacement for carrying a laptop around. But now after living with iPads for the past couple of years, I feel different about it.

Going bigger simply forces the use of a device into what effectively is a laptop, much like Microsoft's Surface. Sure, you can hold a larger screened device, but to do any work on it, or even interact in a basic way, you really would need to set it down. Holding a device one-handed while interacting on-screen, is not an efficient way to do anything, other than maybe browsing online or reading emails.

Using a keyboard in the same plane as your arms/hands in front of you (while supported by a desk or some other flat surface) is still the best (read as easiest physically on your body) way to interact with a device. If Apple can create a MacBook Air with a thinner form factor that is essentially an iPad screen with a keyboard and trackpad (maybe supporting an additional battery for longer use), I would consider that an ideal work travel computer. I don't need a bigger touch screen, which will show that much more fingerprints.

Well put. I think it's very possible that this so-called iPad Pro and the new so-called 12" Macbook are one and the same. I can't see Apple releasing an even bigger iPad without adding some significant features to it. This might very well be a Surface Pro killer. Thus the extreme lack of innovation in the other iPads this year. All of the iPad resources were probably directed towards this product.
 
So, will we still users be now holding even larger iPad's up to take a photo, or will they hold their (still big) but but smaller Iphone 6 Plus.

sometimes the larger u go, it's forcing us to use a smaller device just to take a photo.. This is why i still have my iPhone 5s. iPhone 6 wold probably be my limit if i upgraded.

Everyone wants big screens.... but then we also look goofy holding a picture frame out in public...:rolleyes:
 
Dumb. App dev has slowed down for iPad apps. This would only screw up what apps they have. Devs would have little incentive to worry about this niche device. Apple would overprice this even more than the laughable prices the Air 2 is still going for.
 
Oh, right... This mythical non productivity, despite the fact that the Ipad has a massive penetration in the enterprise.

In my organization we use a fleet of iPads (40+40) to basically managing and drive high technology gears (i won't be more specific) for a total value of something like 400 millions €.
Not bad for a non productive toy, uh? :D
 
Oh, right... This mythical non productivity, despite the fact that the Ipad has a massive penetration in the enterprise.

Giggady.

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In my organization we use a fleet of iPads (40+40) to basically managing and drive high technology gears (i won't be more specific) for a total value of something like 400 millions €.
Not bad for a non productive toy, uh? :D

At no point did I say that the iPad could never be used for anything productive. I was merely suggesting that changes are required if the iPad is going to be people's first thought when it comes to a device designed for work and productivity. The iPad is doing great things out in the field, but it could be do even more great things.
 
Agreed. Anticipating apple innovating a type cover and kick stand as well. The Surface pro sold about a million units in 2014. Apple sold 5-6 million macs.
And it MS sold the surface at a fairly high price point. The tablet hybrid is less niche than posters here contend.

I agree. I've considered a Surface Pro 3. I think they're a nice piece of tech. Unfortunately I can't bring myself to make the purchase because it runs on Windows.
 
It's all good and well having a bigger screen and stereo speaks at each end, but it's pointless without offering something extra. I think that it will do though as looking at the 6 Plus is does feature some extra interface tricks, and that is what you want.
Unless they stick an Intel chip in it and have it run OSX that is :D

But it'll be interesting to see what they do as the Surface Pro 3 i5 and i7 has throttling issues, it's too thin to dissipate the heat when under high loads.
 
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A larger ipad sits in an entirely different market and will be priced much higher than the air.
Its likely an ipad pro would start at a $1000.

I imagine it will start at $799 for 64GB and move up from there for 128 and (possibly) a 256GB version but that's unlikely. I hope apple isn't silly enough to release this thing with a base of 16Gb.
 
It would be nice in addition to a ipad mini, there are times at home when the mini is too small. The ipad air diesnt seem big enough, may have to wait a little longer for an ipad for the house.
 
The Surface pro sold about a million units in 2014. Apple sold 5-6 million macs.
Lol, Apple sold ~5.5m Macs last quarter alone, ~19m on the last four quarters. And many more iPads.
Surface sales are only presented to be profitable since last quarter, but MS stays opaque on numbers.
 
Dumb. App dev has slowed down for iPad apps. This would only screw up what apps they have. Devs would have little incentive to worry about this niche device. Apple would overprice this even more than the laughable prices the Air 2 is still going for.

Dumb how? The one area where there is significant iPad growth is enterprise. To the extent there are industries where a larger screen, at the expense of an extra .5 to .75 lbs, is desired I don't see such a line extension as "dumb."

Enterprise frequently builds custom apps for internal use only, so devs publishing only to the Apple App Store are irrelevant here. The ones with apps that do matter in the business world will update. We are talking about a true business and professional-use device, not a consumer device w/ a "pro" moniker for marketing purposes. There probably is little demand for a larger iPad right now in the consumer market.
 
I wonder if when Apple releases the iPad Pro, they’ll rename the Air to the iPad Amateur?

They probably renamed the iPad to the iPad Air specifically because of this bigger iPad. They just did it years in advance. The current naming scheme makes no sense.

Look at MacBooks. A MacBook Pro is the big one. The MacBook Air is the smaller, thinner version.

Then look at iPads. The iPad Air is the bigger version? For now. Pretty soon the iPad Pro will be the big version, the iPad Air the smaller version, and the iPad Mini being the smallest. Wouldn't be surprised to see the 12" MacBook Air be called the MacBook Mini or something similar, too.
 
Dumb how? The one area where there is significant iPad growth is enterprise. To the extent there are industries where a larger screen, at the expense of an extra .5 to .75 lbs, is desired I don't see such a line extension as "dumb."



Enterprise frequently builds custom apps for internal use only, so devs publishing only to the Apple App Store are irrelevant here. The ones with apps that do matter in the business world will update. We are talking about a true business and professional-use device, not a consumer device w/ a "pro" moniker for marketing purposes. There probably is little demand for a larger iPad right now in the consumer market.


A business oriented iPad? Apple has lost their mind then. But since that isn't likely, neither is what you're saying.

If there's significant growth as you say then don't fix what isn't broken.

Apple must continue to think consumer first when it comes to iOS.
 
This iPad Pro better have palm rejection, or else it won't be usable.

Also, concerning the styluses, I don't think the average customer needs a stylus to browse Facebook and Safari. Styluses are for creatives and painters. And I believe, if apple is not going to add pressure sensitivity into it's iPad Pro, they need at least invent an iPad Stylus with built in pressure sensitivity over BT and sell it separately. It should be sold separately as an iPad accessory just like we buy the smart case/cover. (separately because I insist that average customers won't need it, no need to pay for it)
 
I'm not describing it correctly, it's not about it being for "professionals", it's about the Mac Pro and MacBook Pro abilities to run Pro apps, such as Final Cut Pro, Logic Pro, etc.

iPad Plus is what it will be called, mark my words.

It will run iOS.
It will not run OS X.
It will not be a "crossover" device.
It will simply be an iPad with a bigger screen.

It will be the first iPad to run two apps at once on a split screen. (And will come with iOS 8.3).

It won't be some new breakthrough device, just a bigger iPad.

iOS 8.0: iPhone 6/6+
iOS 8.1: support for A8X chip in iPad Air 2, Apple Pay, continuity w/OS X Yosemite which was released just days ahead of iOS 8.1
iOS 8.2: Apple Watch
iOS 8.3: iPad Plus w/larger screen, first iOS device to run two apps at once on a split screen in landscape mode (this was seen in an early beta of iOS 8). Maybe the only iPad that will do this, or maybe also the iPad Air 2, but, that's it.

Apple always develops an OS in conjunction with new hardware, always. This is what has always set Apple apart from others, the integration of software & hardware in their products. (Yosemite was made for the retina iMac, and the retina iMac was made for Yosemite.)

Oh, to clarify, yes, 8.3 will be iPad Plus, no, there will not be a new Apple TV until next fall.

Well, that's still convoluted. The Mac is not the iPad anymore than the Silverado is a Corvette. No one expects iPad to do what Macs can. At least not in 2014. But business have found uses for iPads and I know in the graphics fields a demand for a stylus aware tablet is great. If a larger format iPad comes to be don't expect it to just be a bigger iPad. It's going to differentiate itself from the consumer model.

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I saw that. But I think you need to understand Apple and how they operate. They're not going to release an iOS product focused on enterprise.

iOS is for fun. Say it with me.

I think what you need to understand is that I've been following Apple since the 1980s and a shareholder since 2001. I cut my teeth on Apple IIe's in school and I've witnessed its evolution (and for a while, its devolution) throughout. I understand Apple well, and also that Jobs is not Cook any more than Jobs was Spindler or Amilio, or Scully. So please do not talk down to me. If you want to have an adult discussion fine.

A presumed iPad "pro," would not be focused solely on enterprise. That's one "pro," market of many. But who do you think the Mac Pro is targeted to these days? Consumers? Do you think a whole lot of consumers buy Mac Book Pros? Of course Apple is re-evaluating the enterprise market now that iPhones (iOS!) dominate corporate America. That's the whole point of partnering with IBM.
 
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