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Apple killed this device with such shortsighted and outdated price point and storage, no innovation in input method (Apple pen too little too late) and no expandability (a single lightning connector limits potential drastically), $500/16GB for 5 straight years, really?

Apple's done the same with the iPhone for 7 years. The iPhone's next.
 
the iPad needs to be completely reimagined as to what gap it should be filling in peoples lives at this point. Its not useless by any means but it has so much room to improve if it wasn't shackled with staying so close to the iphone in how iOS works
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Apple's done the same with the iPhone for 7 years. The iPhone's next.

the writing has been on the wall for the iphone for awhile. There is only so much better they can make it as it gets so great each step forward gets smaller
 
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I really can't understand why MacRumors is still reporting the **** coming out from DigiTimes. Everything coming form this place has always been total horse **** with no real basis whatsoever.
 
iPads are a baked product with a reasonably long lifespan in a saturated market. I would guess the iPad will be closer to a Mac-type market than an iPhone type market.

You could say the same thing of cars but sales over the years have generally gone up. It's not about any of the above, it's about making compelling upgrades and generating consumer demand. If Ford just kept making the Model T since 1908 and refused to make real changes over time it wouldn't be in business today.
 
I have an iPad Air2. I will wait to upgrade to the iPad Pro until I am convinced that it will replace the need for a laptop. I would say I am 80% there, but probably a year or two away from that last 20%. I am happy with what I have for now so hopefully this will all work out.
 
Easy!
Just bring out a new, iPad - iteration soon.

It must be "thinner", because that's what we subconsciously really want. And because "bigger" we just had.

Call it "The best iPad, we have ever made"
 
Well, let me see what we have. My wife, mom, mother-in-law, and brother all have iPad 2s. We are just talking now about maybe needing to upgrade.

People choose to upgrade their phones, and therefore the tablets don't get the $$ for replacement.
 
Not really surprised. My Air 2 is 16 months old and will be good for the next few years.

That said, I'm a sucker for having the latest and greatest so I'll probably upgrade to Air 3 anyway :cool:
 
iPad sales will pick-up once Apple updates iOS to add more productivity features utilized by newer models (like Apple did with iOS 9 and split-view).
I don't think so, it will help to be sure. I expect to see their stylus to be available on more units, but overall, its the market.

There's less need to upgrade like a phone. My kids and wife are on a gen 1 iPad mini, I'm on a second gen mini. For the most part none of them see a need to upgrade, even though we've had these for several years. Its not due to iOS being soo limiting, but rather there's no need to buy something else to replace it.
 
I still have my iPad 2, left it on iOS 7. Originally I got it for taking notes and stuff in school, now that I'm done it's pretty much only used for Netflix on the go and safari. Don't need a phat new one for that.
 
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"Apple will ship 9.8 million iPads in the first quarter of 2016, potentially its lowest quarterly tablet sales since the iPad 2 in mid 2011, according to Taiwan-based DigiTimes Research. The research note claims Apple will account for 21% of global tablet shipments, trailed by Samsung Electronics with 14% market share."


Give us and the world something to be excited about and maybe your sales will improve. The misguided approach to placing their dev time into the iPad Pro was interesting to say the least. If you cannot scale your tech to provide a unified experience across devices then you're going to run into trouble.
 
I use my iPad mini Retina every day, but I won't upgrade any time soon — unless Apple Pencil support is added to the entire lineup.
 
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I've recently purchased on iPad Air 2, and won't see a reason to upgrade it for at least 3-4 years.

With the lack of a giant leap from one iPad to the next these days, and the relatively light usage I use it for (occasional games and web browsing), I don't see a need to spend $750 on a new iPad every year or two.
 
I don't think so, it will help to be sure. I expect to see their stylus to be available on more units, but overall, its the market.

There's less need to upgrade like a phone. My kids and wife are on a gen 1 iPad mini, I'm on a second gen mini. For the most part none of them see a need to upgrade, even though we've had these for several years. Its not due to iOS being soo limiting, but rather there's no need to buy something else to replace it.
Same here....we have an iPad air and mini 2 and they do what we want them to do so there is no need to upgrade.
I think we are seeing a saturation in the market.
 
I loved using my iPad Mini on the road but I ended up selling it and getting an 11" MBA. Yes it's larger and heavier but light enough to take with me during my travels with no problems.

Personally I don't see myself buying an iPad anytime soon. Once I'm ready to move on from my MBA I'll get a MacBook. But I do know many friends and family members who love their iPad's. It's worth pointing out that people tend to stick with their iPad's until they literally stop working. Many people upgrade smartphones even though their current one works just fine. Not the case with most tablet users.
 
I really can't understand why MacRumors is still reporting the **** coming out from DigiTimes. Everything coming form this place has always been total horse **** with no real basis whatsoever.
I can understand the complaint but by the same token the writing is on the wall. Just look at past iPad sales figures from apple. This was bound to happen sooner or later given its shrinking trend.
 
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In my personal opinion, I believe the vision of what tablets were supposed to do and be has been lost. I use mine everyday and it essentially replaced my notebook. All I need is a desktop (homebase) and a tablet. I still believe in tablets, but it would seem the developers are just not selling that vision anymore.
 
Seems that the market is demanding more out of tablets now, keyboard, USB inputs, docking options, and expect a full OS.

The success of Chromebooks says you're wrong about that. And the iPad is already a fantastic capable device in most ways... but there are several persistant problems: lack of multiple logins, artificially imposed restrictions on pointer input devices, clunky multitasking, and low base storage. A $600 9.7" iPad with 128GB of storage, the option of bluetooth mouse input, and a redesigned multitasking experience, would make it the "laptop replacement" many of us have been waiting for. But they won't do this, because it would bury half the Mac lineup.

And the answer is not a Microsoftian hammer-to-kill-a-fly of "OSX on a tablet". The Surface is a horrible user experience for me because it runs Windows 10. People like iOS, and vastly prefer iOS apps to desktop apps. Check sales and usage numbers if you don't believe me. Power users, scientists, businesses, etc are not "the market" for iPads, or even Macs if you look at it.
 
Chromebooks + new inexpensive Winbooks + education = a lost opportunity for Apple and iPads. Apple was positioned in a sweet spot for education. That turd show in LA and the prohibitive pricing didn't help Apple at all. Especially the pricing.
Couple that with the lifespan of a typical iPad (I still have the original and an iPad2) and you have a product that is a victim of it's own success. Larger phones didn't help either.

The iPad seems to a solution to a problem that no longer exists for a lot of people.
 
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