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The tablet market is totally saturated. Unlike phones, there isn't much reason to constantly upgrade your tablet. The only ones actually growing are the dirt cheap ones and those don't make any money for their manufacturers.

The reason to upgrade phones is vaporizing yearly. Personally, I give it one more year and then it's comoditized (I guess that's not a word, but you get the point).
 
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This exists already?

In landscape orientation, as in this photo of... Honeycomb? Just pull down the shade. The "Today" page with all that info plus all the widgets or "glances" you want to add in are visible, along with a small notification panel on the right side of it...

Yeah, no, it is just a list and it is horrible. Two reminders , no events is 80% of the screen...

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The reviews for the Surface's, tablet side are very lack luster and sales aren't that great and build quality reviews have been pretty bad in online forums (way way worse than anything Apple every did), so why the hell even put that up as an example. Sales aren't that great either.
Why the hell did I use it as an example? Well let me think about this for a fraction of a second. Ok, here you go:
  • It's a terrible execution of what a crossover could be
  • It's the most popular crossover device (and one of the only true crossovers) that currently exists
  • It's what everyone ALWAYS compares an iPad/Mac crossover to by saying "The Surface isn't successful, so why should Apple make the same mistake?" It's like saying "Windows Phone wasn't successful, so why should Apple make the iPhone?" Or "Microsoft Band wasn't successful, why should Apple make an Apple Watch?"
 
Here's my point of view:

My first iPad was an iPad 3 a couple of weeks after it launched. I adored that iPad, the software, the apps, everything seemed new. I kept it 'till late 2015 and then sold it. I didn't have any need for it anymore, my larger iPhone was enough for casual browsing on my bed.

Plus, the newer iPads are 25% more expensive in my country than the iPad 3 because of the exchange rate fluctuation without offering any compelling reasons for being so darn expensive.
 
Yeah, no, it is just a list and it is horrible. Two reminders , no events is 80% of the screen...

Yeah, after he posted that, I quickly took a look thinking I had missed something ... I hadn't.

Glad you posted the non-equivalent Apple "version" screenshot.
 
I still think the iPad is a nice device. I have an Air which I bought a little over 2 years ago and it is used daily. I will take a look at the Air 3 and see what it offers. The Pro is also nice, but at $1079 for the cellular model it is a
a bit steep for what it offers, IMO. Most of the activity at the Apple stores in my area is still around the iPhone, Mac and iPad tables. The watch tables have been empty when I've been there and the same for the iPad Pro.
 
Reason is they are giving very very slow and limited upgrades in each new device. New Apple management team thinks consumers are so attracted and blindfolded by Apple brand, that they will come to buy our product anyhow. For last few generations of ipad, iphone and macbook I feel these are half baked products. Even though they can put some more features they wont! They will keep people tempted to buy next generation of product!
 
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I read a tutorial on Adobe.com how one artist used an ipad and Adobe tools to create an illustration. About halfway through the article, I started laughing out loud. The hoops this guy had to jump through, switching between programs, taking screen shots, etc, was ridiculous. He could've easily created the same illustration in less than half the time with Creative Cloud apps. Adobe is trying to create innovative software, but I think they are limited by iOS. Until Apple lays a good foundation through the OS, I don't think we'll see much progress.

I didn't read the post in question, but to me you've highlighted something that Cook and company can't seem to understand. In addition to things I just can't do on my iPad that I can do on my computer, some of the things I CAN do on my iPad are much harder to do, or at least take longer to do on an iPad. I've reached the stage of "why bother when I can do it in half the time on my Macbook Pro or iMac?" I can't have even have two Word documents open at the same time on my iPad. I have to close one and open the other!

I still use my iPad, but for me (note that I said for me), to do the work I need to do on the road, a laptop is indispensable.
 
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Market saturation? I personally don't update my gadget every year.

My thoughts exactly... There are only sooooo many people that want these devices and it looks like they now have them, in one shape or form.
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I didn't read the post in question, but to me you've highlighted something that Cook and company can't seem to understand. In addition to things I just can't do on my iPad that I can do on my computer, some of the things I CAN do on my iPad are much harder to do, or at least take longer to do on an iPad. I've reached the stage of "why bother when I can do it in half the time on my Macbook Pro or iMac?" I can't have even have two Word documents open at the same time on my iPad. I have to close one and open the other!

I still use my iPad, but for me (note that I said for me), to do the work I need to do on the road, a laptop is indispensable.

My sentiments exactly. Give me a computer over a tablet any day. Quicker, and more reliable...
 
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From a business perspective it doesn't make sense for Apple to cannibalize their MacBook line by making the iPad basically a cheaper MacBook by giving it OS X.

Microsoft had nothing to lose since they had no successful PC line for those hybrid devices to cut into.

Unless the Surface turns into a true success, I don't see Apple making a hybrid device anytime soon. It's poor for business.

Well the MacBook line will eventually follow the same fate the iPad line has!

And who said anything about cheaper? I'm not suggesting an iPad with OS X I'm suggesting a touchscreen MacBook with a detachable keyboard! Is the Microsoft surface book cheap?
 
My thoughts exactly... There are only sooooo many people that want these devices and it looks like they now have them, in one shape or form.
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My sentiments exactly. Give me a computer over a tablet any day. Quicker, and more reliable...
Every company wants their consumer to upgrades and buy their product every year. So that they can make money. But how it is possible? I see smartphone is the only things people would willing to upgrade every year, but why ipads, notebooks, watch? Specially with Apple price tags!
 
While I am a fan of the iPad (own Mini 2). I don't see the need to upgrade each year like I do with my iPhone. Honestly, I can get away with upgrading my iPhone every two years. But my Mini 2 is still running strong. I basically use it to read The New York Times and watch video (Netflix, Hulu, Amazon, HBOGO, NHL, etc). When my gf bought it for me this past Christmas, I could have asked for the Mini 4, but I don't use my iPad as extensively and frequently as I do my iPhone. So this really doesn't come as a shock that iPad sales have been steadily declining.
 
iPad Air 2 has been my main computer for some time. Sold my MacBook Air after finishing my thesis. While I do not need a computer, as we have a MacBook Pro Retina for the 5% of tasks that we can't do on iPad, I realized how useless a tablet really is. I can do most tasks, but they are so horribly executed on a tablet compared to a pc. The fun, easy and intuitive way of using a tablet probably makes most people forget how stupidly slow and bad experience it is in terms of workflow speed.

I think it will be my last tablet ever.
 
The reason to upgrade phones is vaporizing yearly. Personally, I give it one more year and then it's comoditized (I guess that's not a word, but you get the point).

This is where I'm at. The 6S+ is the last phone I'll have until the 8S+. There's no reason to upgrade phones anymore. Plus the "leaps" in technology seems better, and therefore worthwhile, when you skip a generation, making the phone seem worth it.
 
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I might end up buying the rumored iPad Air 3. I like the portability of my Mini 2 but it's time to admit my eyes aren't getting any better. I need a bigger screen. I will hold out another month to see if a new Air3 is more compelling than a discounted Air2.
 
I love my Air 2 so the "Air 3" better knock my socks off to warrant an upgrade. It works quite well for me and does everything I need it to to flawlessly.

I'll only upgrade if they:
1. Add pencil support.
2. More ram.
3. Force Touch (unlikely)
4. Better Battery

Now that I look at that list those are things I've lived without and can continue to live without. Like I mentioned the new one better be damn amazing for me to even have the slightest desire to upgrade.
 
Lately I find myself using my iPhone 6 when I need to get online real quick or whatnot. The screen size increase was just enough to make me comfortable using it for long periods, unlike the iPhone 5 I had previously. And I don't even have a Plus; I imagine 6/6s Plus users are using their iPads even less than I've been!

When I need to do more serious/long term computing I just use my desktop or Macbook. The iPad still has a place in my life, primarily for reading e-books, but it's only marginally better than my phone for most anything else.
 
Not surprised. With the saturation of iPads on the market, it is no wonder. It would be nice to see it force Apple's hand into lowering the price or offering more of a device for the price. All though I do not see this happening.
It cannot be market saturation, because according to the chart above for every iPad sale, four other tablets are being sold?
 
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