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Doesn't help that Apple gimped the iPad mini 3.

Doesn't help that Apple still charges $500 for a 16GB tablet.

Doesn't help that Apple keeps iPad 2 and above updated.

Doesn't help that the iPad is built to last.

Doesn't help that the market is way over saturated with iPads.

Doesn't help that the core design and function has remained the same since introduction.

Doesn't help that Apple released a 5.5" iPhone.

Doesn't help that the iPad does not replace a computer.

Doesn't help that the iPad has become boring.

Did I miss anything?

Yes. Android.
 
I don't think they ever said its to replace the computer. It compliments it and until I bought the iPhone 6 I used my iPad 3 as well as my Mac regularly. iPad for web browsing and Mac for work. Now though, my iPad is so slow compared to the iPhone 6 I only use the iPad for iBooks so can't justify upgrading.

That's the way it will stay. I'll upgrade my Mac and Phone as they're the most important to me and do what I need until the iPad can do something better.

It very much depends on the work one does as to whether or not the iPad can replace a computer. In my case, as a college professor, I can replace about 95% of my computing needs with an iPad. Others cannot. But to the point of this article, I will only upgrade my iPad every 3-4 years, just like a computer.
 
iPad is still the best tablet. Though Safari still tends to be buggy at times
 
Yeah, this is the trouble with not knowing the difference between a fluctuation and a trend. ...or anything about the trend...

But I agree iOS is a toy OS. It's time we actually get an iPad we can do some work on. A Pro model with OS X & a screen size large enough to make it useable. Not a mobile device, a proper capable touch device.

I agree with the need to implement a proper OS, but I'm very happy with the current screen size.
 
You do realize that smartphones and tablets are selling more than desktops and laptops? Further, you do realize that YOY sales of the "pc" are shrinking?
Oh, I think it's post-pc and it's the reason M$ has become an afterthought to many.

I guess we have a different meaning to the word "post".


This does not satisfy everybody's situation. I have several friends that switched from a laptop to an iPad and are just as happy and productive. I would say happier because of the diverse array of apps available.

The problem is that Apple made the iPad _too_ good and they last. The iPhone gets upgraded with new features because of its much more mobile existence, but the iPad is quite often as stationary as a computer (ie. stays in the home).


Well yes this is what I said. I don't see any reason whatsoever to upgrade my ipad. It's as fast and as efficient as the day I bought it. People who try tip compare the smartphone market to the tablet market are pretty clueless.




I was gonna say the same thing.

When there are over 60 companies selling smartphones and tablets... but only a handful actually make money... there's something seriously wrong with that.

Selling products at or below cost is a horrible way to conduct "business"

There's no way that can be sustainable in the long-term.


But they have market share!!! Of course you have to combine their market share with the market share of their competitors to show anything appreciable




Postings about other people's postings of the "Apple is doomed" line, have become
even more annoying than the actual postings of the "Apple is doomed" line.

Honestly.



I would like to compare it to the word "troll" which has become even more annoying than actual trolls.

The actual apple is doomed line isn't posted much anymore, because only a moron would suggest it.
 
As others have stated, there really isn't a need to upgrade. My iPad air is going strong (granted it's been only a year and a bit since it launched) but I have no real need for speed (ha!), it's mainly used to read books and browse websites with occasional light gaming. Even my iPhone 5 is going strong. I'm not sure if improvements of each generation are getting less significant or what, but the difference between performance between iPhone 5 and iPhone 6 aren't as noticeable as when I went from iPhone 4 to iPhone 5. I guess there was the 4s in between, but I don't think I'd be itching for an upgrade even after the 6s comes out.
 
The iPad is a computer. Jobs did not say the tablet would replace the "computer." He spoke of the post-pc era which is exactly what we're in. People are doing an enormous amount of computing on their phones and tablets. Things which they would have previously done on a desktop or a laptop.
Yea like email and wasting time on facebook. Of course that can be done on a phone or tablet.

Real work, for the most part, still needs a real computer.



Michael
 
High Price to upgrade and phablets are what is killing the ipad.

hard to justify upgrading, when android tablets start at 200, and you already own a large phone.
 
You can not brag about having a new iPad, maybe with a new iPhone for now…
The next revolutionary innovation it's the iWacht, you can bragging out with no problems (no sport edition tho)
 
I don't think Sam is arguing market share relevance. I think he's just pointing out the futility of using the anecdote Well, I only see X when I'm out... The tablets could simply be used in a home.

Those devices could very well be cheap crappy tablets. Whether a person purchases 1 cheap one or 10 and never uses it, they still contribute to an iPad not being purchased.

Like many, I think market share, as a stand alone barometer of anything, means little to nothing.

Well exactly. But shhhhhhh Max likes to (ironically and coincidentally) hate.
 
I've been impressed with the SP3 as well, I don't own one yet, waiting for them to be outfitted with Skylake CPU's then I'm getting one.

Not sure if they will be able to incorporate skylake into the sp4, but if they do.. it becomes a very attractive offering, especially if it has built in LTE connectivity.
 
iPad needs OSX, and not a phone operating system called iOS. Right now, it's just a large phone without the calling feature--- basically a toy. The consumers have finally caught on to this. "Why get an iPad when I already have an iPhone that does the same ****."
 
iPad: The "magical" tablet crippled by iOS.

Apple was right in thinking a desktop operating system isn't right for a tablet, but iOS isn't the answer either. It need an OS all of its own, as powerful as OS X but with a touch-friendly interface.

iprOS

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can I move these "up votes" to reddit?

does reddit own upvotes? what else are they called? vote-ups? points? i think a lot of people avoid saying 'likes' now cause it sounds like grandma and your tween relatives.
 
I predict the main driver behind making the logic board so small in the new MAC and going to a single connector is to prepare for the iPad Pro. The board is now small enough to fit in the iPad form. I see a similar screen size, (about 12-13 inches) OSX, USB-C versus lightning connector and the option of a keyboard case. I half expected them to "snap" the screen off the keyboard and call it the new iPad. I mean, they don't light the logo on the thing which is the same as the iPad. I'm not an analyst though so I could be talking from my behind.

Edit: forgot the point of no fan needed any longer either. One more future iPad feature.
The thing with snapping off the display is that for stability reasons the meat of the computer (logic board + battery) is in the bottom half.
 
iPad wishes

I selfishly want a "touch" version of Adobe's Creative Suite (Photoshop, Illustrator) to work on on iPad.

There is a fully functioning version on the Microsoft Surface.
 
Many of the reasons mentioned here are totally valid. However, the one that irks me is how some people insist that the iPad should be a full blown computer. They were never intended to be laptop replacements and quite frankly I don't want them to be. Laptops are good at being laptops. Desktops and power stations are good at that. Tablets are mainly for consumption, portability with some potential for work and productivity. That's it.

Please stop with this attitude towards tablets and trying to make them a "jack of all trades, master of none" type of thing. That's what's going to happen if Apple is forced to try and make these tablets into monster computers. :(
 
Do you think it's possible that these people are using them in their homes and not in front of you? That's just crazy, right?


Yes, some are keeping their ipads or other brand tablets longer. But that's because there is little additional value in the newer products.

Same as happened with netbooks, which not coincidentally is the product category that tablets replaced.



Dunno where you are but Android tablets are everywhere - everyone and their grandmother has them. People use them as remote controls, as home music terminals, as kitchen digital cookbooks, you name it.

You can get a 7" tablet with surprisingly respectable performance (given the inherent limitaitons of the tablet form factor) for 100-200 bucks. Like I said above this the netbook market all over again, except at even lower price points.

Actually, I have to agree with ad1815 - I only see an Android tablet twice a year - from my father who has 8" Samsung tablet. From my experience, a person could have a Galaxy S5, a $600 PC laptop, but have an iPad. I literally haven't seen any other tablets based on Android. Yes, people could be using them strictly at home, but it makes no sense that I haven't seen an Android tablet in the wild anywhere. I'm a college student, so I see plenty of tablets everyday. I see a fairly wide range of smartphones and laptops, but I've only seen iPads tablet-wise.(Talking strictly Android here, I see plenty of Surface Pro 3's, but those more like laptops)
 
I don't really ever use my iPad. It doesn't fit as a device I really need. My MacBook Pro and iPhone 6 Plus are essential, but my iPad? meh
 
Not a toy OS.

But I agree iOS is a toy OS. It's time we actually get an iPad we can do some work on. A Pro model with OS X & a screen size large enough to make it useable. Not a mobile device, a proper capable touch device.

I disagree. In some ways it's a much more refined OS than OS X from a developer's standpoint and has nearly all of the capabilities of OS X. However it is sandboxed and the security makes some things more difficult. I've been creating professional and enterprise apps for iPad for some time now and can tell you that with the right apps, it can do a LOT of professional work.

That being said, it is what it is. No you're not going to be doing some heavy lifting with it and it does have trouble due to it's form factor, but in the right context it's a very valuable tool.
 
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