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*grin*

Ever listen to an Apple quarterly call? Same kind of close-to-the-vest talk.

The entire Q&A section is all about reporters and analysts trying to pin down Apple execs on production numbers and costs, end user sales vs channel inventory, royalty revenue, patent costs, future projects, etc. All they usually get are vague handwaving phrases.

Companies like to dance around such details. Either they say "we can't give that info" or they give a PR sentence that has the same meaning, or they give a related or subcategory number that spins things in a good light.

They want the headlines to always give the big, nice numbers ;)

very very true. companies are not required to disclose all those details, but they also should not try to mislead their shareholders. if samsung is basing their return rate on number of units returned versus number of units shipped (as this blog asks), then they are walking very close to the line. if a company touts a 2M unit sales number but the actual number of units sold to customers is far less and the company tries to mislead shareholders by saying "we did not say 'quite small', we said 'quite smooth'" then again they are walking very close to the line.

the correct answer for samsung was not "quite small/smooth" it would have been "we don't distinguish between channel sales and end-user sales in our financial reporting" -- and then leave it at that.
 
In other words, Rovio expects to make about $12 million a year off Android, whereas they made about $7 million (IIRC - feel free to correct) last year from the iOS version.
This is like saying since Einstein can muck through the mathematical details for relativity that most other normal people can, too.

Rovio's Angry Birds is wildly popular. Anything they experience is not indicative of the average developer.

There's a significant number of statistics from smaller developers that iOS sales exceed Android sales .

I think Android is a good and necessary part of the mobile market. It expands choice for the consumer and is a compelling, well designed operating system. I also think that it has issues with monetizing software and hardware. I think you'd have to have your head buried in the sand to ignore the fragmentation issues the OS has. Manufacturers pump and dump handsets, then refuse to update them even 6 months after they've sold the handset as new.

It's not a fault of Google, it's a function of the economics. If a manufacturer doesn't make significant profits off of a single handheld then it doesn't make sense for them to continue supporting it. It's better for them to catch the wave of the next release. 3GS is a 3 year old phone that still receives Apple updates, by comparison.

I run a 1st generation iPhone. I don't find a lot of applications and games that don't support 3.1.3.

On a side note: It is increasingly apparent that the Samsung return rates are fudge on BOTH sides, ITG's and Samsung's.
 
ok, i think i gather you either hate Apple or work for Samsung or both. after reading this post and many of your other posts, it seems that you jump on anything that is anti-Apple as if it was fact. and you dismiss anything that puts Apple in a positive light as fabrication or exaggeration. one has to wonder why a kid like you wastes his time reading this forum.

Welcome to Rodimus Prime. And an increasing number of others on MacRumors these days. :mad:

MacRumors is the new AppleHatersHQ.
 
Welcome to Rodimus Prime. And an increasing number of others on MacRumors these days. :mad:

MacRumors is the new AppleHatersHQ.

ah have to break to insults.

Has it ever crossed your mind that apple RDF is starting to break down and more and more people are seeing the truth about Apple?
It just seems some people think anyone who is anti-Apple is automatically a hater. Hell I have see you LagunaSol call some people who are fans of Apple Apple haters because they did not agree 100% with Apple on some subjects and would refused to just repeat Apple pure marketing BS and lies.
 
ah have to break to insults.

Has it ever crossed your mind that apple RDF is starting to break down and more and more people are seeing the truth about Apple?
It just seems some people think anyone who is anti-Apple is automatically a hater. Hell I have see you LagunaSol call some people who are fans of Apple Apple haters because they did not agree 100% with Apple on some subjects and would refused to just repeat Apple pure marketing BS and lies.

Using terms like "RDF" already exposes a built-in bias.
 
ah have to break to insults.

Please substantiate this bogus accusation.

Has it ever crossed your mind that apple RDF is starting to break down and more and more people are seeing the truth about Apple?

If your wishes were fishes...

It just seems some people think anyone who is anti-Apple is automatically a hater. Hell I have see you LagunaSol call some people who are fans of Apple Apple haters because they did not agree 100% with Apple on some subjects and would refused to just repeat Apple pure marketing BS and lies.

Strawman fail.
 
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