think its bad on the big iPads, looks even worse on the iPad minis !
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iPadOS 15 : we are stuck with 6x5 apps on home screen now?
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This is absolutely atrocious! Upgraded to not only find my layout completely screwed, but also many apps now out of their folders! So not only do I have to get them back into folders, I also now have to sort out a terrible new layout depending on what way I hold the bloody thing! What were they thinking?!
I usually get accustomed to the changes Apple makes to iOS/iPadOS but for the first time in a long time I’m legitimately regretting updating my Apple device. I wish I knew about this.
I usually get accustomed to the changes Apple makes to iOS/iPadOS but for the first time in a long time I’m legitimately regretting updating my Apple device. I wish I knew about this.
Thank goodness we have this option for “Large Icons” that we can turn off that doe—
Wait.
It just makes them smaller.
In the same spot.
What the hell are they even thinking?
Thank goodness I have this giant screen so I can waste the utmost space.
This really screws up the user experience. I had everything neat and tidy on my iPP 12.9 home screen. Now I have a second screen unnecessarily.
iOS 15 destroyed my pages also... it added widgets onto home screen and instead of pushing app icons to next page, it placed them seemingly randomly. iOS 15 also bricked my iPhone 11 Pro... have been trying to install updated since 7 hours ago. Update failed to boot after progress bar completed 3 different times... restored a backup and all my text messages were missing also. This is definitely most frustrating update ever and have been using Apple Devices since 2004.
I can’t fathom why they changed the icon layouts between portrait/landscape.
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I just downgraded to iPadOS 14.8 and I recommend it to other people if there's nothing in iPadOS 15 that hugely stands out feature wise.
I spent a good 20-25 minutes this evening to give it a chance, play around and try to come up with something usable with this and I just couldn't. This is the first time I've actually gone out of my way to downgrade an Apple device. Usually I can accept design changes here and there and soldier on. But the fact that icons kept moving about depending on the orientation of the device (something I switch often) just proved too frustrating for something that's really a core experience. So I downgraded.
I'm glad that Apple will continue to support v14 but I'm really hoping this gets fixed in a 15.x update.
I don’t normally get upset about software changes, but my word, the Home Screen is a mess on iOS 15 for iPad. How this made it through Apple’s QA is beyond me…
This is a major fail.
It looks like the old android eclair tablets.
Widgets should not come at a cost to (what was) a brilliant UI in 14-14.8
It looks like the old android eclair tablets.
Widgets should not come at a cost to (what was) a brilliant UI in 14-14.8
As somebody who is very much heavy on widgets I’m a virtually enjoying covering my iPad with them but i can see why people are upset icon wise. So glad we have App Library on iPad as i had so many apps not needed on my home screen
I don't think most of us are very far from where you are. Here's where I'm at: I was (and remain) hugely excited to be able to put any number of widgets where I want. The App library is a *very* welcome addition, too, and will aid considerably in the organization I desire. However, the current implementation of widgets & the home screens means they severely hampered what functionality was there:
- The amount of apps/folders I could fit on a screen is drastically reduced.
- The "compressed" look of the apps/folders from the main home page isn't available at all anymore, regardless of widgets or not.
- Trying to organize position of the widgets feels like an exercise in patience. They don't seem to play nicely at all, randomly jumping around as you try to slide things around, ignoring other drags completely sometimes.
- The shuffle of apps/folders and widgets when rotating from landscape to portrait is unwieldy at best. I know what they were trying to do, I just think the implementation falls incredibly short of desirable behavior. I would much rather be able to adjust the layouts for portrait and landscape separately. As it is, trying to develop muscle memory is a fool's errand.
It feels like they shipped this feature half baked and under developed. Major changes in OS updates aren't something that tends to bother me, but changes that break workflows and don't function properly leave me griping considerably.
The ui was so simple and yet they were able to screw it up...
You can... Adjust your layout for portrait, then rotate the screen and adjust your layout for landscape (or vice versa). It will remember the widget and app/folder positions for both orientations.
Re-design for the sake of pushing widgets to the user due to lack of honest and useful improvements. In the school the teacher would fail this “design”!, does Apple have a head of human interface design anymore?. Tim seldom uses Apple devices, is clear.
I'll give this another shot tonight. It definitely wasn't doing that for me last night, it almost felt random. But I was also fighting to just get widgets to go where I wanted them to in landscape mode alone (apps & folders seemed to constantly hop between them, other widgets would get randomly pushed back up into previous rows, etc.) If I can figure out why that isn't behaving right, I'll give setting up portrait another shot.
I'm doing it right now. This page has instructions on how to downgrade as well as links to the 14.8 IPSW file you need.
https://wccftech.com/download-ios-14-8-and-ipados-14-8-released-heres-what-is-new/
https://wccftech.com/download-ios-14-8-and-ipados-14-8-released-heres-what-is-new/
I can't wait for iOS 37 and the iPad Air 12 when I can edit my home screen and apps to the order and location I want them. I have been using my S10 and S6 Tab a lot lately and OneUI is so much better experience than iOS other than its Android..
I just wanted to add my 2 cents to this thread and wanna start by saying that I don't usually download Betas, but closely follow new keynotes, macrumors, etc for feature updates.
But it's not until one downloads a new OS that we really get that experience. And boy am I not only disappointed but quite frankly surprised at the level of clunkiness and ugliness that this iPadOS update brings. I must say the jarring-ness and all-over-the-place-ness of 15 is less apparent on the iPhone. But frankly I don't know if I should be surprised as it's been a while in the making that apple has been taking very strange design directions.
For me it started on iPhone X with that dreaded "Home Bar" button overlay at the bottom of every screen that we didn't have the option to hide or turn off without going into Guided Access. This spread to iPad Pro 3rd Generation with that Home Bar appearing over full screen apps at the bottom.
Now we're being met with the constant 3 dots at the top of the screen for Split View options and it has been persisting regardless of me touching or not the screen. The absolute insanity of the Home Screen App Layout with the Icon Sizes, Distance from Edges, 6x5 grid, it's ridiculous. Every combination of Large Icons On/Off and Standard/Zoom Layout makes for laughable layouts.
Forget about the clunkiness of the design style of Safari and seeing an "Edit" button on blank page or the ugliness of every tab and colorized address bar. The confusion of trying to FaceTime Audio someone.
I remember when iOS 7 came out with the flat design I loved it and was a huge push in the right direction to simplify the visual experience. So this isn't a case of opposed to change. It's just more confusing and cluttered than before.
Downgraded back to 14.8 on my 12.9". who the hell heading that Design department...
But it's not until one downloads a new OS that we really get that experience. And boy am I not only disappointed but quite frankly surprised at the level of clunkiness and ugliness that this iPadOS update brings. I must say the jarring-ness and all-over-the-place-ness of 15 is less apparent on the iPhone. But frankly I don't know if I should be surprised as it's been a while in the making that apple has been taking very strange design directions.
For me it started on iPhone X with that dreaded "Home Bar" button overlay at the bottom of every screen that we didn't have the option to hide or turn off without going into Guided Access. This spread to iPad Pro 3rd Generation with that Home Bar appearing over full screen apps at the bottom.
Now we're being met with the constant 3 dots at the top of the screen for Split View options and it has been persisting regardless of me touching or not the screen. The absolute insanity of the Home Screen App Layout with the Icon Sizes, Distance from Edges, 6x5 grid, it's ridiculous. Every combination of Large Icons On/Off and Standard/Zoom Layout makes for laughable layouts.
Forget about the clunkiness of the design style of Safari and seeing an "Edit" button on blank page or the ugliness of every tab and colorized address bar. The confusion of trying to FaceTime Audio someone.
I remember when iOS 7 came out with the flat design I loved it and was a huge push in the right direction to simplify the visual experience. So this isn't a case of opposed to change. It's just more confusing and cluttered than before.
Downgraded back to 14.8 on my 12.9". who the hell heading that Design department...
This is part of the reason it was so easy for me to switch from an iPad and MacBook setup to a Surface Pro. I decided that it was far more aggravating to deal with the iPad limitations from being a glorified iOS device than it was to deal with a Surface Pro as a tablet (really small icons LOL).
About the only real change I had to make was getting used to my phone being my eBook reader.
Edited to add: CSAM stuff aside, at least make the Pro line more mac-like. Add in a real file viewer and a real desktop. Give it some power. Steve Jobs was the one who said you shouldn't be afraid to cannibalize your own products. Well, do it Apple because you kind of look afraid.
About the only real change I had to make was getting used to my phone being my eBook reader.
Edited to add: CSAM stuff aside, at least make the Pro line more mac-like. Add in a real file viewer and a real desktop. Give it some power. Steve Jobs was the one who said you shouldn't be afraid to cannibalize your own products. Well, do it Apple because you kind of look afraid.
I agree. I had enabled the “large icons” option some time ago on my 12.9 and really, really liked that view, everything was much more legible. With ios 15 I thought maybe I was imagining that they now looked smaller to me so I went back to that setting to toggle it off and back on to see the difference. Yep you can make them smaller but using the large option still makes them less large than it did in 14. Not happy about that.
I have to say the iPadOS 15 is so far terrible on my iPad Air. First during installation the put short cut groups on my home screen and thus messed up my icon order and pages which is what I use and not the shortcuts. Then Safari is terrible I think. Even after undoing some of the changes I don't like the design at all with the icon to open a sidebar on the left so I hit it rather than the back key. I'll give it another day or two and then to another browser. I'm sure some love this but not me.
I’ve gotten used to it but I wasn’t happy that my screens were disordered to accommodate those widgets which I’ve never used. Although now that I’ve restored some order similar to what I had I am using 3 widgets on the home page - the clock, weather, and calendar. Those are useful to have immediately displayed but I’m still not happy that the “large” icon size has been reduced to something less than large, especially on this large 12.9 screen. As mentioned the phone was relatively untouched in comparison. I wouldn’t even be able to tell that I had upgraded.
This is incredibly frustrating. To get widgets to be placed where you want is annoyingly stupid. How could this UI experience ever make it to a release?