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iPadOS 26 is an Absolute Mess
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says_stuff
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The fact that they completely upended the way that I am using my device, making it objectively and subjectively harder for me to work on it, is what I’m complaining about. The fact that if i don’t update the device to their forced new system, i lose some years of support that i paid for though too. The fact that you guys are cutting slack for a trillion dollar company that could really spend some of the budget for not annoying their customers is your right, sure, but illogical.
roguefury
macrumors regular
There are a few behavioral inconsistencies with 26, but other than that, it has fundamentally changed how I use my iPad. In fact, I now default to using it over my MBA
says_stuff
macrumors regular
that’s great but don’t get too comfortable, maybe they’ll rip it out too next year. It seems that they will find support to do so no matter what by people flooding the discourse with established facts and platitudes
Jedimindtrick
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Correct. 10 years of use, just tossed aside. Not sure why you think that should be easy for everyone to dismiss.
I like the new windowing options. I think it’s great because I like to use my iPad Pro like a laptop. I completely understand those who feel slighted for removing split screen and slide over.
Supporting 32 bit apps on 64 bit hardware on Windows is not comparable in any way, shape or form to iPads being able to preform slide over.
In iPadOS 26, I can put an app in the exact same window as it would appear in slide over. I’m just not able to slide it off and on the screen anymore. This argument makes no sense.
Ludatyk
macrumors 604
Well, that's my point... you don't like it lol.
As I stated earlier... too many options.
But you don't have to use the new multitasking system. And before you respond... well, why don't they keep SplitView and Slide Over, because again "too many options."
Unless, they remove Windowed Apps or Stage Manager to allow you to use SplitView & SlideOver... is that what you are suggesting?
But they removed the app picker... that was no longer available to use going forward. And you are making my point... things get refined and replaced. I understand the frustration with removing SplitView/SlideOver... but folks act as if things can't get "refined."
says_stuff
macrumors regular
split view and slideover could very well be part of single app mode. The fact that they didn’t bother to leave it there under a switch, for the highly advanced (???) users that need it/want it/bought it, is insulting, mo matter how you dress it, or how many options you can handle being there.
Why do i have to give them time to refine and polish when i am just an afterthought to them lol? The box didn’t come with “beta” printed on it.
Ludatyk
macrumors 604
Again... not everyone wants to use multitasking features in Full Screen app mode. There's a reason why in iPadOS 18... that (SplitView/SlideOver) mode is separate from Full Screen app mode.
Because that's how updates work in terms of software features.
says_stuff
macrumors regular
Again. That’s what switches are for.
Sure. Be a paying beta tester lol, your money, your right.
Jedimindtrick
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Be serious. You wouldn’t be “overwhelmed” if one of the options was to turn on slide over and split screen. Neither would anyone else.
Ludatyk
macrumors 604
I'm only responding to what you posted... you stated why Splitview/SlideOver can't be apart of Full Screen app mode.
If that's the way you see it.
Personally, I could care less. I'm thinking in general... because there are plenty of educational studies out there that show too many options can be a problem.
says_stuff
macrumors regular
I also implied that they could move it under a switch Full Screen mode. Any opinions on that? Besides your references? Or preferences? Couldnt they?
If you willingly paid full price for something that needs polishing its not a matter of optics lol.
Ludatyk
macrumors 604
I have no objection to that. But I think a better approach would be to find away to incorporate SplitView/SlideOver features (or gestures) into the new multitasking system.
GhostPepper
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I don’t like it for everyone. I don’t like it for iPad and iPad mini users specifically. Which is why removing it altogether makes no sense.
I really don’t believe that you actually think keeping a 10 year old feature would be “too many options.” Pretend it was still an option, and none of this removing it ever happened to begin with: I guarantee you would not look at it and think, “ok this is waaayyy too many options, they should get rid of slide over.”
I’m not suggesting removing anything. You are. I am pro adding features, as I’ve said. Both can exist, like they do on other devices. It’s not some crazy idea.
There is currently no replacement. It was removed, with no replacement. I do agree, I fully expect improvement. I don’t think anyone believes this is the final product. But that doesn’t mean we aren’t allowed to voice our opinions on how it currently is, that’s the purpose of forums like this. I expect Apple to borrow from Samsung, and make the windowed apps something you can slide off the screen, and give you an icon to pop it in and out. Thus offering a replacement for slide over.
Ludatyk
macrumors 604
But what if some iPad and iPad Mini users like the new multitasking system over SplitView/SlideOver? I recall a base iPad user coming into this thread enjoying the fact that Apple gave them the opportunity to use it.... because in most cases it would be reserved to Pro users.
I'm only looking at it from Apple perspective... they had 3 options under multitasking options and I doubt they want to add more to it.
Even when users open up iPadOS 26 for the first time, they are greeted with only 2 options (Full Screen or Windowed mode)... which makes it cleaner and easier to choose from.
According to Apple, they can't.
And we are an agreement here... I'm only trying to explain that yes, I know that it's frustrating for SplitView/SlideOver users... but I do think Apple will improve on this new multitasking system for those users.
And I like the fact you are thinking of it as "hey I want SplitView/SlideOver back" but "this is how Apple should incorporate those features into the new multitasking system"
says_stuff
macrumors regular
Again, thats what switches are for.
Since we apparently love semantics, you obviously mean they won’t, unless there is actually a statement about the technical difficulties of it.. there isn’t one, right?
Ludatyk
macrumors 604
I understand the idea of switches... but in this context, the post is claiming that the new multitasking system does not belong on base iPad and iPad Mini.
Who knows, but clearly SplitView/SlideOver is not available for you on iPadOS 26... is it?
says_stuff
macrumors regular
slide over is not in ipadOS 26 but splitview can still be accessed through the fill and arrange menu or you can use shortcuts instead.
achappy
macrumors 6502
iOS13 dropped support of 3D Touch on hardware enabled phones and it was replaced with an inferior Haptic Touch. Anyone that used 3D Touch in its full, like me, were left out. Haptic Touch is inferior but it was implemented across all devices.
It’s not that hard. Window controls are the same no matter which mode you are in. Resizing, moving, placement. SlideOver or Split View requires you to drag to a specific part of the screen and depending on where you get one or the other and the OS restricts you to either one.
GhostPepper
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I believe that the iPad was intended to be used by the masses. Both tech novices and enthusiasts alike. That’s the void in fills in the computing space, and why I believe it’s such a popular choice for many. And I believe both options should be available. The only argument that’s made against it is that it’s “too many options” which I find as a poor and very subjective reason.
Search YouTube for iPadOS 26. The majority of the titles mention “finally a Mac replacement.” There’s many iPad users who aren’t looking to replace their Mac. There is SO many iPhone users that just want a larger screen for an OS they are very familiar with that simply offers easy touch controls to multitask.
The Split View and slide over fans aren’t saying you shouldn’t have windowed apps, yet you are saying they shouldn’t have Split View and slide over. And the best reason you have is that “it’s too much.” I think most people will think windowed apps are too much once this rolls out.
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GhostPepper
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What can’t I do with Haptic Touch that I could do with 3D Touch? They wholly replaced its functionality, as a cost cutting hardware measure, they profit more per device because they enabled the same functionality though software implementation. This is apples to oranges.
This is an absurd comparison to eliminating slide over for windowed apps, or windows trying to offer backwards compatibility with 32 bits apps, which was your original comparison.
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Ludatyk
macrumors 604
As I stated earlier any reason that someone gives you... it will never be good enough.
From my perspective, they are easy touch controls.... demo the lady presented to us at WWDC was simple to follow and I think many iPhone users will enjoy it.
I'm not saying that.... Apple is. And you don't have to use Windowed app mode... I don't use that mode, I prefer Stage Manager. It allows for a more focused environment (can group windows/apps and bring in windows/apps from the Recent app area)... don't care to have that many apps actively displayed.
says_stuff
macrumors regular
being as illogical as to actually spending time online arguing people just to advocate against an opt-in switch and some hours of work enabling a trillion dollar company not to upkeep the functionality they retroactively took from the people who paid for it.
Just.. wow. Sad actually.
Just.. wow. Sad actually.
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