iPadOS 26 is an Absolute Mess

[achappy]

What can’t I do with Haptic Touch that I could do with 3D Touch? They wholly replaced its functionality, as a cost cutting hardware measure, they profit more per device because they enabled the same functionality though software implementation. This is apples to oranges.

You just showed you had no clue what 3D Touch could really do. The biggest thing that was never replaced or could be replaced was the 3D Touch cursor. It allowed you to selectively select a word, sentence or paragraph with consecutive pushes without ever lifting your finger. Very similar to Force Touch on Trackpads. There were a few other things as well.

So anyone with a 3D Touch device completely lost that functionality with iOS13. It was in fact a hard cutover.

 

[WarmWinterHat]

You just showed you had no clue what 3D Touch could really do. The biggest thing that was never replaced or could be replaced was the 3D Touch cursor. It allowed you to selectively select a word, sentence or paragraph with consecutive pushes without ever lifting your finger. Very similar to Force Touch on Trackpads. There were a few other things as well.

So anyone with a 3D Touch device completely lost that functionality with iOS13. It was in fact a hard cutover.

Virtually no one had any clue what you could do with 3d touch, even long-time iPhone users, which is why Apple decided that it was a waste of money. It wasn't intuitive to a new user, and Apple didn't really promote it or push users or app developers towards it. Additionally, they never added it to iPadOS, which was weird when moving back and fourth.

I had it (6s and 8) and knew how to use it, but other than the cursor, I never could make it a part of my workflow, and eventually just forgot about it. By the time Apple got rid of it, I hadn't used it for several months if not a year.

 

[says_stuff]

You just showed you had no clue what 3D Touch could really do. The biggest thing that was never replaced or could be replaced was the 3D Touch cursor. It allowed you to selectively select a word, sentence or paragraph with consecutive pushes without ever lifting your finger. Very similar to Force Touch on Trackpads. There were a few other things as well.

So anyone with a 3D Touch device completely lost that functionality with iOS13. It was in fact a hard cutover.

So they suck for your issue too, right? As also for the current issue of dropping support for split view and slideover, offering an inferior penny-saving (for them) solution.

They really should he held to higher standards.

 

[achappy]

So they suck for your issue too, right? As also for the current issue of dropping support for split view and slideover, offering an inferior penny-saving (for them) solution.

They really should he held to higher standards.

Yeah but I understand features are added/removed and I actually appreciated that now that functionality, with the exception of the cursor, was available on the iPad. 3D Touch was a big part of my flow so now having most of it available on all devices benefited me.

My standards are different than yours.

 

[says_stuff]

Yeah but I understand features are added/removed and I actually appreciated that now that functionality, with the exception of the cursor, was available on the iPad. 3D Touch was a big part of my flow so now having most of it available on all devices benefited me.

My standards are different than yours.

So, implying that i don’t understand that features are added and removed? Is that gaslighting or just part of your lower standards that you have on conversation?

You still haven’t answered on why i should tolerate them lowering the experience of a machine+os i bought? What does your niece have to say about all this? If you didn’t lose a feature on your iphone you wouldn’t get it on your other devices? Who sets those stupid arbitrary rules?

 

[achappy]

So, implying that i don’t understand that features are added and removed? Is that gaslighting or just part of your lower standards that you have on conversation?

Is gaslighting your word of the week? Just learned it and want to use it in a sentence any chance you get? You’ve stated numerous times you don’t understand why SplitView was removed so there’s nothing to imply.

You still haven’t answered on why i should tolerate them lowering the experience of a machine+os i bought? What does your niece have to say about all this? If you didn’t lose a feature on your iphone you wouldn’t get it on your other devices? Who sets those stupid arbitrary rules?

See above. If you understood then there’s nothing to tolerate. I don’t know what my niece has anything to with anything? Have you been involved at all any kind of software development? It doesn’t seem like it.

iPhones were going to be made without the 3D Touch sensor so Apple implemented the “long press” + Haptic Vibrations (on devices that supported it) in iOS13. IPadOS was split off with iOS on the same version so it got all of the iOS features which meant it got “long press” as well. From that point, every single device got the same “long press”. It wasn’t arbitrary and it was a hard cutover. Even if your phone had a 3D Touch sensor it was useless.

A very similar thing has happened with iPadOS26. Stage Manager was limited to certain iPads. Now the same windowing is available on all supported iPads.

 

[says_stuff]

Is gaslighting your word of the week?

no i just find it amusing that you keep doing it.

You’ve stated numerous times you don’t understand why SplitView was removed so there’s nothing to imply.

I do understand that they are doing this to save pennies on the software team budget by annoying their customers since the customers already bought in and well if they do express annoyance they will be met by people conditioned to do pr for them.

If you understood then there’s nothing to tolerate.

Understanding does not equal liking or tolerating lower usability of my device.

I don’t know what my niece has anything to with anything? Have you been involved at all any kind of software development? It doesn’t seem like it.

You have mentioned the preferences of your family in this thread at least twice, so i thought she might be an experienced os developer too. I’m sorry i thought ipads were consumer devices and as a consumer i paid a hefty amount for a device to use as intended. I realy wish they gave me the option to return it now as it won’t suit my needs going forward plus if i had known they are only meant for developers i might have even refrained from paying for it. Or are you saying that simple consumers are just not entitled to personal preferences or decent behavior by companies?

So in the end, what you’re saying is you enjoy having less options whenever it suits apple’s strategic planning for each fiscal quarter?

You do understand how these are lower standards than expected, right?

 

[achappy]

I do understand that they are doing this to save pennies on the software team budget by annoying their customers since the customers already bought in and well if they do express annoyance they will be met by people conditioned to do pr for them.

So no, no clue about software development.

Understanding does not equal liking or tolerating lower usability of my device.



You have mentioned the preferences of your family in this thread at least twice, so i thought she might be an experienced os developer too. I’m sorry i thought ipads were consumer devices and as a consumer i paid a hefty amount for a device to use as intended.

I mentioned my son who’s not a developer nor am I an OS developer. My son is a consumer who actually likes the changes and loves how many more options he has. He loves Stage Manager now because he has iMessage, Insta and Snap all in a single Stage and quickly swipes to it with 5 fingers. I’ll tell him he’s not using it as intended.

I realy wish they gave me the option to return it now as it won’t suit my needs going forward plus if i had known they are only meant for developers i might have even refrained from paying for it.

Let me tell my mom she can’t use her Mini anymore.

Or are you saying that simple consumers are just not entitled to personal preferences or decent behavior by companies?

So in the end, what you’re saying is you enjoy having less options whenever it suits apple’s strategic planning for each fiscal quarter?

You do understand how these are lower standards than expected, right?

Decent behavior?? It’s somehow bad to make changes when they specify they may. Nothing will change that entitlement mentality.

Apple, at its discretion, may make available future Apple Software Changes. The Apple Software Changes, if any, may not necessarily include all existing software features or new features that Apple releases for newer or other models of Devices

 

[says_stuff]

So no, no clue about software development.

Didn’t even know it was required for me to have an opinion on where i spend my money! Really sorry for my confusion, me not being a developer means i must not understand stuff in general.

I mentioned my son who’s not a developer nor am I an OS developer. My son is a consumer who actually likes the changes and loves how many more options he has. He loves Stage Manager now because he has iMessage, Insta and Snap all in a single Stage and quickly swipes to it with 5 fingers. I’ll tell him he’s not using it as intended.



Let me tell my mom she can’t use her Mini anymore.

Oh you and the family can really all use it however you want, it is I that bought it for a specific usecase trusting apple to provide, shame on me for spending so much money on it truly. You do ofcourse know that i previously wrote that I intended to use it a way, not everybody.


As for your sad last point, yeah, please don’t post the whole 500+ pages of gibberish tos to avoid answering about the responsibility of companies to support the products for the people that pay them, since i already said, i find it very sad that people will willingly do pr or lawyer work or even beta testing, pay for it and be proud of it. But people can really do whatever.

You are right, i do have entitlement mentality when i spend hard earned money on something. I guess you got yours for free.

Peace out.

 

[Bungaree.Chubbins]

Man, this is way too heated for the discussion at hand!

What’s wrong with acknowledging that people are allowed to like using their iPads differently? People are allowed to enjoy the new windowing system. I saw so many people begging for it, and so many happy people playing with it on the initial dev betas that I was really surprised when people started attacking it as though Apple were stealing their wives!

People are also allowed to be sad and disappointed at a feature they like being removed‽ I’ve never used Slide Over except by accident, then I had to figure out how to make it go away. So it being removed actually makes me happy. I can still sympathise with the people who will miss it though!

Being online is exhausting these days.

 

[says_stuff]

I would be delighted to have the new system as an option and i hope it stays and improves, i wouldnt even care for it or comment on it at all, as i equally didnt care for stage manager, if it didnt also mean that my way of using the ipad got axed and then

when voicing our annoyance people are seriously wasting time to prove?? we are not developers but entitled, stupid children, unworthy of tech, demanding for outdated practices and probably blind to the fact that single app mode is indeed the same thing, when it isn’t, comparing apples to oranges really.

Even then i’m not saying the new thing should be removed, kudos to apple for trying something new, but i just also want to keep my way of work in place too. They seem to have arbitrarily decided that it can’t be done (while apple has made no statements about it, right? ) and to hell with everybody for suggesting that these are arbitrary limits and for asking the basic of acknowledgment and validation.

 

[Bungaree.Chubbins]

i would be delighted to have the new system as an option and i hope it stays and improves, i wouldnt even care for it or comment on it at all, as i equally didnt care for stage manager, if it didnt also mean that my way of using the ipad got axed and then

when voicing my annoyance people are seriously wasting time to proce we are entitled, stupid children, unworthy of tech, demanding for outdated practices and probably blind to the fact that single app mode is indeed the same thing, when it isn’t.

Even then i’m not saying it should the new thing should be removed, kudos to apple for trying something new, but i just also want to keep my way of work in place. They seem to have decided that it can’t be done (apple has made no statements about it, right? ) and to hell with everybody for suggesting that these are arbitrary limits and for asking the basic of acknowledgment and validation.

I get that, and that it will be annoying for you while you adjust, and find new workflows to get done what you used to do automatically.

Unless there was some architectural incompatibility in the code that we can’t see, I don’t know why Apple couldn’t have kept it for the people who love it.

It’s still not a reason for people who are upset at the loss of their favourite option to talk down and use pejoratives for people who are excited for the new system. I’m not accusing you, or anyone specifically, but there has been a bit of it in this thread! I’m not surprised how hard people have pushed back given how much vitriol there was early on in this thread.

 

[GBstoic]

I have been enjoying reading through the bickering but you guys have wasted your whole weekend discussing this.

 

[GhostPepper]

You just showed you had no clue what 3D Touch could really do. The biggest thing that was never replaced or could be replaced was the 3D Touch cursor. It allowed you to selectively select a word, sentence or paragraph with consecutive pushes without ever lifting your finger. Very similar to Force Touch on Trackpads. There were a few other things as well.

So anyone with a 3D Touch device completely lost that functionality with iOS13. It was in fact a hard cutover.

In no way is this the same as removing a feature altogether.

But you know what, enjoy iPadOS 26. Have fun fiddling with windowed apps with your finger. Make those windowed apps 3 inches wide and go to town.

 

[Jedimindtrick]

You just showed you had no clue what 3D Touch could really do. The biggest thing that was never replaced or could be replaced was the 3D Touch cursor. It allowed you to selectively select a word, sentence or paragraph with consecutive pushes without ever lifting your finger. Very similar to Force Touch on Trackpads. There were a few other things as well.

So anyone with a 3D Touch device completely lost that functionality with iOS13. It was in fact a hard cutover.

Hold on, you defend Apple for adding multiple taps and gestures to get to Split View, and removing slide over. But, you complain that they removed 3D Touch? You see the irony?

By the way, 3D Touch never existed on iPad. So your best example has nothing to do with iPad.

 

[achappy]

Hold on, you defend Apple for adding multiple taps and gestures to get to Split View, and removing slide over. But, you complain that they removed 3D Touch? You see the irony?

By the way, 3D Touch never existed on iPad. So your best example has nothing to do with iPad.

Where was I complaining? I was stating facts about the removal of 3D Touch and how it was a hard cut over.

Second, if you read the whole thread and not selectively quoted, you would’ve read that I wasn’t complaining about the removal of 3D Touch because it gave me functionality on the iPad.

 

[Jedimindtrick]

Where was I complaining? I was stating facts about the removal of 3D Touch and how it was a hard cut over.

Second, if you read the whole thread and not selectively quoted, you would’ve read that I wasn’t complaining about the removal of 3D Touch because it gave me functionality on the iPad.

I’ve read the whole thread. We get it, you think 2 inch overlapping windowed apps for people who own iPad minis is better than Split View and slide over.

 

[says_stuff]

I have been enjoying reading through the bickering but you guys have wasted your whole weekend discussing this.

Well I've been trying to find support in having my expensive work tools, that I use all day, given back to me so it really seems kinda worthy. On the way it became about people knowing better than me what I enjoy and not conceding that 3 windows = 1 window. Also that no matter what a tos says I shouldn't have to just fork over money and shutup about it and people shouldn't really ask for it since it benefits noone.

 

[Ludatyk]

Well I've been trying to find support in having my expensive work tools, that I use all day, given back to me so it really seems kinda worthy. On the way it became about people knowing better than me what I enjoy and not conceding that 3 windows = 1 window. Also that no matter what a tos says I shouldn't have to just fork over money and shutup about it and people shouldn't really ask for it since it benefits noone.

Not trying to be insensitive, but no one is forcing you to update. You could wait until Apple have a better solution (since this is a new system and they could improve on it)... since you value having SplitView/SlideOver.

Samsung removed S-Pen support with the Fold 7, so I decided to not upgrade to it (currently have the Fold 6)... plan on waiting until they support or upgrade whenever I determine it's time.

 

[says_stuff]

Not trying to be insensitive, but no one is forcing you to update. You could wait until Apple have a better solution (since this is a new system and they could improve on it)... since you value having SplitView/SlideOver.

Samsung removed S-Pen support with the Fold 7, so I decided to not upgrade to it (currently have the Fold 6)... plan on waiting until they support or upgrade whenever I determine it's time.

I know I don't have to update, what really makes you think I don't? What makes you think I would? Why are we even discussing this? Not trying to be ungrateful for your help (?) but you know you don't to have to suggest actions for me to take right, you could (following your footsteps here) though make suggestions in Apple's feedback forms?

Thing is, they are now baking the new os, there really is no better time than to ask for my workflow to not be erased, I would rather not wait a year to have it all forgotten and me then being out of updates for my expensive device. It really is about preserving the value of my purchase for me.

edit: I would also really like to have them say what they plan to do about this particular issue, tomorrow, so I could decide if I should exchange or sell it

 

[Ludatyk]

Thing is, they are now baking the new os, there really is no better time than to ask for my workflow to not be erased, I would rather not wait a year to have it all forgotten and me then being out of updates for my expensive device. It really is about preserving the value of my purchase for me.

You go on about your workflow.... I'm curious to know what in iPadOS 26 disrupts you continuing to do your work?

 

[says_stuff]

You go on about your workflow.... I'm curious to know what in iPadOS 26 disrupts you continuing to do your work?

So I go on about my workflow, but what changed so that I shouldn't? If you really can't figure it by now, then you will remain curious as I don't really have an interest in writing a lengthy post, for you to argue about semantics, that would really be a waste of my time.. Nor in participating in a conversation with people that just want to get off on telling people what to do..

 

[Ludatyk]

So I go on about my workflow, but what changed so that I shouldn't? If you really can't figure it by now, then you will remain curious as I don't really have an interest in writing a lengthy post, for you to argue about semantics, that would really be a waste of my time.. Nor in participating in a conversation with people that just want to get off on telling people what to do..

Fair enough, no need for the exchange. I'll leave you to making feedback forms with Apple.

 

[says_stuff]

thanks, you too! when you do change your mind and return to participating in this thread please also comment on why you felt the need to suggest something painfully obvious as you skipped on answering that question, asking more of your own.