iPadOS 26 is an Absolute Mess

[Populus]

No idea but split view works better than ever in the other modes. Even now works in portrait and will remember different arrangements for portrait and landscape.

You mean dragging one widow and throwing it to one side and dragging the other widow and throwing it to the opposite edge will leave be with a similar Split View composition with no wasted space around each widow borders? And can be set up quicker than in previous versions of iPadOS?

 

[zhenya]

You mean dragging one widow and throwing it to one side and dragging the other widow and throwing it to the opposite edge will leave be with a similar Split View composition with no wasted space around each widow borders? And can be set up quicker than in previous versions of iPadOS?

That's one way to do it. There are others.

 

[Ludatyk]

Right, I think it’s that SplitView/SlideOver mode what some users miss from iPadOS 26. I mean for me it would be incredibly useful to have that legacy mode for my iPad Pro 11” screen, while simultaneously having the new windowing view for my external 4K monitor.

But you can still get two apps side by side (which in essence is SplitView) along with a SlideOver app in iPadOS 26. And with a monitor attached... you can have another SlideOver app on it.

 

[thadoggfather]

iPadOS 26.1 RC out. I just updated from PB4 just cuz but PB4 was much better than 26.0 GM for me on iPad mini 7.

Still keeping my 2021 M1 11" iPad Pro on 17.0

 

[whatnot]

Interesting, because its also in the same sense that Apple brought up the idea of the ipad being a computer in the ‘what is a computer?’ advert.

it's very simple: iPad is a 'computer' because it's bigger than a phone; MBP, which is a computer, needs an iPhone-ish UI because it's Apple, and most people just need a computer to operate their phone from.

look, emojis everywhere!

 

[steve62388]

But you can still get two apps side by side (which in essence is SplitView) along with a SlideOver app in iPadOS 26. And with a monitor attached... you can have another SlideOver app on it.

The current implementation of ‘slide over’ is inferior to the previous incarnation.

 

[Ludatyk]

The current implementation of ‘slide over’ is a lot more fiddly and inferior to the previous incarnation.

And that's your opinion. I like the current implementation that's been adapted with this new multitasking system... can move it around more freely and resize it to whatever form I like.

 

[says_stuff]

I’m sure OS development is not for the faint of heart, but I can’t wrap my head around the fact that apple maintaining full control, specs, blueprints of the hardware it produces, deciding which device gets what, is expected to have trouble producing a bug free os for said hardware. Given their wealth and status it should be easy for them, why not? Why release this as stable? Just because of a set date?

Apple Hits $4 Trillion Market Value, Joining Nvidia and Microsoft

Apple's market capitalization briefly surpassed $4 trillion just after opening today, making it the third public company to reach that figure. Nvidia reached $4 trillion back in July and is creeping closer to $5 trillion, while Microsoft also hit $4 trillion that same month before dropping down...

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The correlation here being that the market seems to forgive, forget or even may reward you regardless of the status of your software releases. That’s.. something i guess.

And that's your opinion. I like the current implementation that's been adapted with this new multitasking system... can move it around more freely and resize it to whatever form I like.

..and that’s your opinion, or should i say reasoning.

I can’t pretend that the almost endless ability of all my apps existing in a window one swipe away is the same as one window of one app, and no it’s not the same or better to expect the users to split the 11 inch or 8.9 screen in 10 parts to avoid restoring that functionality that was randomly taken away. That’s just a different thing. That’s a fact. That’s not an opinion.

There is absolutely no reason not to have both and acting like we can’t have both. If the cpu and ram could handle all this before, it probably still can.

 

[transmaster]

It is annoying that the pages don't seem to remember how they were last opened. I notice this to a lesser extent with macOS 26.

 

[Ludatyk]

..and that’s your opinion, or should i say reasoning.

I’m aware thats my opinion.

I can’t pretend that the almost endless ability of all my apps existing in a window one swipe away is the same as one window of one app, and no it’s not the same or better to expect the users to split the 11 inch or 8.9 screen in 10 parts to avoid restoring that functionality that was randomly taken away. That’s just a different thing. That’s a fact. That’s not an opinion.

I know it’s different… but that doesn’t mean I can’t prefer it over the previous way.

There is absolutely no reason not to have both and acting like we can’t have both. If the cpu and ram could handle all this before, it probably still can.

There is a reason… you refuse to accept it.

 

[says_stuff]

There is a reason… you refuse to accept it.

I will probably entertain whatever reason when i listen to someone in charge disclosing it, acknowledging the issue. Until then i could claim magical unicorns told them to remove it but that would be just.. me.

Of course you might prefer the new experience if it suits you. I expect the same treatment towards me though.

 

[zhenya]

I definitely prefer the new multitasking interface over the old - and especially the slide over. Previously slide over was incredibly inflexible and just not suited for a lot of apps. Now the interface works with any app and as stated, you can move it around. I would not be surprised if they also bring back the ability to carousel through slideover apps and I would be good with that. (I also would not be surprised if they don’t…)

 

[Ludatyk]

I will probably entertain whatever reason when i listen to someone in charge disclosing it, acknowledging the issue. Until then i could claim magical unicorns told them to remove it but that would be just.. me.

Well, let’s entertain the idea Apple give you a reason.. will you actually accept it? Or claim it’s bogus? Because I think the latter… no amount of reasoning Apple provide will remove any skepticism you have.

 

[says_stuff]

I definitely prefer the new multitasking interface over the old - and especially the slide over. Previously slide over was incredibly inflexible and just not suited for a lot of apps. Now the interface works with any app and as stated, you can move it around. I would not be surprised if they also bring back the ability to carousel through slideover apps and I would be good with that. (I also would not be surprised if they don’t…)

It is just less capable than before. Previously, you could use it to do like anything with it. You could watch a video, then you could check a note, you could look up a definition, you could launch a new search, check a match score all two swipes away.

Now you can.. move and resize one app. That’s it. You might prefer it the new experience if it’s suited to you but the fact remains that its something significantly less. Its doing less things than before. I might get used to the slower ux but tolerating less features is ridiculous for me after paying the money i paid to get this.

 

[says_stuff]

Well, let’s entertain the idea Apple give you a reason.. will you actually accept it? Or claim it’s bogus? Because I think the latter… no amount of reasoning Apple provide will remove any skepticism you have.

I will have to deal with it then. Right now i have to guess they are silently waiting to see if people just go with it so they can move on skipping the work. So i hope the discourse stays alive and they are pressured in restoring this. In that same explanation they should also aknowledge that a percentage of users will be unhappy with having less functionality and accept returns. That would be giving me a way out and appreciated.

 

[FeliApple]

Apple Hits $4 Trillion Market Value, Joining Nvidia and Microsoft

Apple's market capitalization briefly surpassed $4 trillion just after opening today, making it the third public company to reach that figure. Nvidia reached $4 trillion back in July and is creeping closer to $5 trillion, while Microsoft also hit $4 trillion that same month before dropping down...

www.macrumors.com

The correlation here being that the market seems to forgive, forget or even may reward you regardless of the status of your software releases. That’s.. something i guess.

The issue isn’t Apple’s market value. The issue is adoption rates.

People keep updating even though iOS updates obliterate devices. That’s the part I can’t understand.

And people recommend updating in spite of that.

I mean, at this point I have no empathy for chronic updaters. If you want to update and use severely updated garbage, go ahead. It’s on you.

Twenty years of iOS updates killing devices and you keep updating? It’s a conscious choice at this point.

 

[Mainsail]

The issue isn’t Apple’s market value. The issue is adoption rates.

People keep updating even though iOS updates obliterate devices. That’s the part I can’t understand.

And people recommend updating in spite of that.

I mean, at this point I have no empathy for chronic updaters. If you want to update and use severely updated garbage, go ahead. It’s on you.

Twenty years of iOS updates killing devices and you keep updating? It’s a conscious choice at this point.

I think you are being hyperbolic. I have been updating regularly for years, and it has never destroyed or killed one of my devices.

You might have a legitimate point, but please try to make an argument without the exaggeration…..it will seem less bias and more credible.

 

[Ludatyk]

I will have to deal with it then. Right now i have to guess they are silently waiting to see if people just go with it so they can move on skipping the work. So i hope the discourse stays alive and they are pressured in restoring this. In that same explanation they should also aknowledge that a percentage of users will be unhappy with having less functionality and accept returns. That would be giving me a way out and appreciated.

There is always going to be a percentage of users not pleased with a decision made… I’m not pleased with the removal of compact tabs in Safari. Using compact tabs made Safari less busy… but it’s gone, I moved on…

If you are expecting that every decision made is going to please 100% of users… you are sadly mistaken.

 

[zhenya]

It is just less capable than before. Previously, you could use it to do like anything with it. You could watch a video, then you could check a note, you could look up a definition, you could launch a new search, check a match score all two swipes away.

Now you can.. move and resize one app. That’s it. You might prefer it the new experience if it’s suited to you but the fact remains that its something significantly less. Its doing less things than before. I might get used to the slower ux but tolerating less features is ridiculous for me after paying the money i paid to get this.

IF your apps were compatible with that version of slide-over. Every time I tried it the apps I actually would want to use just didn’t work in the fixed space available. I instead fully adopted Stage Manager (the method Apple clearly prefers to continue to develop) and found that much more flexible and useful. All the more so now with the new UI.

I’m totally fine if they also continue to improve the new slideover - again - now made useful because it is compatible with all apps and allows free positioning.

 

[says_stuff]

I think you are being hyperbolic. I have been updating regularly for years, and it has never destroyed or killed one of my devices.

You might have a legitimate point, but please try to make an argument without the exaggeration…..it will seem less bias and more credible.

My iphone six was in a way killed by the last update it got, slowing down considerably, forcing me to update. I may have moved on from that but i didn’t forget that. I’m not updating my iphone 12 pro max to make sure it stays functional for that same reason. I now feel like i probably shouldn’t have supported such practices in retrospect.

The issue isn’t Apple’s market value. The issue is adoption rates.

People keep updating even though iOS updates obliterate devices. That’s the part I can’t understand.

And people recommend updating in spite of that.

I mean, at this point I have no empathy for chronic updaters. If you want to update and use severely updated garbage, go ahead. It’s on you.

Twenty years of iOS updates killing devices and you keep updating? It’s a conscious choice at this point.

I meant that yeah, if the market rewards me when i can evidently do something less for my users, saving money, facing no repercussions, well yes why not do less. I of course agree with you, the users being the driving force behind this.

There is always going to be a percentage of users not pleased with a decision made… I’m not pleased with the removal of compact tabs in Safari. Using compact tabs made Safari less busy… but it’s gone, I moved on…

If you are expecting that every decision made is going to please 100% of users… you are sadly mistaken.

I’m not expecting that. If they say that the functionality, that was one of the reasons i bought this, is not coming back for whatever reason, i will be pissed and would prefer to be offered a refund for that. Notice how i didn’t use the word expect.

IF your apps were compatible with that version of slide-over. Every time I tried it the apps I actually would want to use just didn’t work in the fixed space available. I instead fully adopted Stage Manager (the method Apple clearly prefers to continue to develop) and found that much more flexible and useful. All the more so now with the new UI.

I’m totally fine if they also continue to improve the new slideover - again - now made useful because it is compatible with all apps and allows free positioning.

I hope they do implement the app switcher. I see no reason not too. Freeform sizes and multiple apps would be very cool.

 

[FeliApple]

I think you are being hyperbolic. I have been updating regularly for years, and it has never destroyed or killed one of my devices.

You might have a legitimate point, but please try to make an argument without the exaggeration…..it will seem less bias and more credible.

Don’t take it so literally. Every 32-bit device is a piece of garbage if fully updated. Just a lag fest. The iPad 2 on iOS 9, the iPad Mini 1 on iOS 9, and equivalent iPhones.

Fully updated 64-bit devices, by the end of their lifespan, have seen battery life reductions of 60-70%. Newer devices like the Xʀ and Xs have seen better numbers, but still poor vs iOS 12. Likewise with the 2018 iPad Pro.

This is all avoidable by staying behind. No empathy with those affected by the final iOS update. You brought this on yourself, most with years on end of iOS experience.

 

[Ludatyk]

I’m not expecting that. If they say that the functionality, that was one of the reasons i bought this, is not coming back for whatever reason, i will be pissed and would prefer to be offered a refund for that. Notice how i didn’t use the word expect.

Prefer to be offered a refund? The even thought of that… screams entitlement.

Software updates are included with the device… some features are added, some are removed… that’s the agreement you signed up for when purchasing the device.

 

[notabitail]

Don’t take it so literally. Every 32-bit device is a piece of garbage if fully updated. Just a lag fest. The iPad 2 on iOS 9, the iPad Mini 1 on iOS 9, and equivalent iPhones.

Fully updated 64-bit devices, by the end of their lifespan, have seen battery life reductions of 60-70%. Newer devices like the Xʀ and Xs have seen better numbers, but still poor vs iOS 12. Likewise with the 2018 iPad Pro.

This is all avoidable by staying behind. No empathy with those affected by the final iOS update. You brought this on yourself, most with years on end of iOS experience.

I'm on iOS 18 on my iPad 7. I still get around 9 hours or so of solid ebook reading on it. I can get around 5 hours if I add in streaming content.

 

[says_stuff]

Prefer to be offered a refund? The even thought of that… screams entitlement.

Software updates are part of the service of owning a device… some features are added, some are removed… that’s the agreement you signed up for when purchasing the device.

I feel like you are using this to try and insult me after falsely claiming i am naively expecting for things from apple. But i do feel entitled to the functionality i paid for plenty and i would prefer things a certain way, pro-consumer style, yeah, so it’s not working, sorry.

Not sure why you would be advocating on behalf of apple, attacking my character, when i’m only asking for the restoration of a functionality that was taken away and offering my opinion, but do go on.

 

[Ludatyk]

I feel like you are using this to try and insult me after claiming i am expecting for things from apple. But i do feel entitled to the functionality i paid for plenty and i would prefer things a certain way, pro-consumer style, yeah, so it’s not working, sorry.

You are given a choice to upgrade or not… Apple haven’t taken that choice away from you.

If you are not pleased with the software update Apple has provided for you… don’t update. Continue using the functionality that you “paid” for.