Ludatyk
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Can you provide an example of this in iPadOS 26? Nowadays... devs update their UI to the modern design and introduce new features.
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iPadOS 26 is an Absolute Mess
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SnowCrocodile
macrumors 6502a
I encounter that bug literally everyday, more than once. Must be some sites I’m using or something else I am doing. I think that is “many”.
No, I don’t like that when I click on a file while browsing my documents in Files, it switches to Preview and I now have to deal with a completely different interface and files presentation to continue browsing when I hit the app's Back button. To go back to Files, I have to use a different button - tiny and located in a different spot all the way in the upper left corner. It really interferes with my workflow. Why not automatically switch back to Files when I click the Back button and let me pick the next file I want to look at from there?
What filesystem improvements were there? Do let me know.
As to the multitasking - they added resizable windows (good for using iPad with an external monitor) but eliminating the slide over which worked a lot better when using iPad as a standalone device. They did bring it back later.
iOS7 took a luxurious looking visual experience and turned it into Android like faceless design. It was boring but not ugly. I still think it was a step in a wrong difection. Worse, they gutted some app functionality that was much better in iOS6, especially Reminders and Notes. Took them a decade to bring some of it back.
Now, Liquid Glass doesn't just look like Android. It looks like some acne-covered high school wannabe "hacker"'s attempt at creating a "cool" Android skin, back in 2012. It's not boring, but extremely ugly and cheesy - in my subjective opinion.
It would need a complete redesign to look significantly different.
Ludatyk
macrumors 604
And what iPad is this? Are you using Safari in full screen mode or in some multitasking mode?
As I stated before… Apple intentions were for users to “use” the Preview app (something that users requested for the iPad). But what back button? You in a completely different app. It’s really straight forward…. Just tap the files button when in Preview app, not sure how it interferes with your workflow.
You keep bringing up Android… find me an Android skin back in 2012 that looks like Liquid Glass. I’ll save you some time.. there isn’t one. I have Galaxy Fold and I’ve seen plenty of attempts in copying Liquid Glass from 3rd party devs currently, none of them come close.
Gregg2
macrumors 604
If some posters here can’t stand the new iPadOS, even to the point of saying it’s not usable, have any downgraded to the last version? I’m using 26 for my very basic needs, and it works fine for me. I don’t understand all the complaints at all.
I7guy
macrumors Westmere
My wife is on her IPP with MGK for hours during the day. Mostly business part personal.
If things are amiss I hear about it. I haven’t heard boo in weeks.
I fully agree something’s are more difficult on the iPad but also some tasks are a breeze and lots are easier. To make those difficult things easier we bought a Neo. So that’s it, she picks the best tool. iPhone or iPad or MacBook. It just works.
pdoherty
macrumors 68000
You can't downgrade back to the prior OS. That's a big problem with Apple devices - total crapshoot as to whether to upgrade or not since you're stuck with it if you do.
jon9091
macrumors 6502
I sort all my apps into folders. Financial, Photography, Music, etc. etc. I am now seeing a behavior that whenever I close an app, I remain in the folder for about a second, before I am thrown back into the Home Screen. I could be trying various photography apps, and instead of just leaving me in that folder until I click the Home Screen myself, Apple has decided I need to go back there every time an app in a folder is closed. So if I’m trying 5 apps in a folder, I have to the Home Screen between each one. It’s ridiculous. Does anyone know of a setting that can fix this?
I’ve turned off automatic updates on all my Apple devices. You’ve fooled me once, Cupertino, but you’ll never fool me again. And it’s sad, cuz I always used to update without even thinking twice. But nowadays, every software update Apple releases just makes all their products worse. My Watch, my iPhone, my iPad are all substantially worse than they were a year ago.
Quite frankly, Apple should simply stop adding new features to their products, and stop releasing software updates. iOS, macOS, iPadOS are now feature complete. We don’t need any new features. We have enough. Everything they add, just makes everything worse.
The only thing I want to hear at WWDC27 is how they’ll fix this mistakes they’ve made over the past year. I don’t want to hear anything about any new features.
The keyboard is completely unresponsive in Spotlight and App Library.
You can’t create Split Views from apps in folders in the dock.
Transparent/colored icons literally vanish from the Home Screen and dock.
The volume slider in Control Centre does not work.
The touchscreen becomes completely unresponsive for several minutes once or twice a day.
A third of my system storage consumed by mysterious “System Data”.
The visual design and UX in disarray.
I will never forgive Apple for pushing the crap to my iPad. The worst operating system I have ever used.
You can’t create Split Views from apps in folders in the dock.
Transparent/colored icons literally vanish from the Home Screen and dock.
The volume slider in Control Centre does not work.
The touchscreen becomes completely unresponsive for several minutes once or twice a day.
A third of my system storage consumed by mysterious “System Data”.
The visual design and UX in disarray.
I will never forgive Apple for pushing the crap to my iPad. The worst operating system I have ever used.
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If Apple had any honor, they’d re-release iPadOS 18. No paying customers should be subjected to using this garbage.
I7guy
macrumors Westmere
We have “26” on a number of devices and iOS 26 and iPadOS 26 is one of the best upgrades to come around in a while.
It’s not perfect and there is that annoying stoplight bug in safari covering the web site underneath in windowed mode on iPadOS 26. Fairly minor in the scheme of things. Battery life and performance is good across devices.
Now we don’t know the hardware that some posters have who have claimed issues and whether the hardware is problematic or there is a corrupted install, but if it were me, I would book a genius appointment and go into an Apple Store and show them the issues and let them find a solution.
It’s not perfect and there is that annoying stoplight bug in safari covering the web site underneath in windowed mode on iPadOS 26. Fairly minor in the scheme of things. Battery life and performance is good across devices.
Now we don’t know the hardware that some posters have who have claimed issues and whether the hardware is problematic or there is a corrupted install, but if it were me, I would book a genius appointment and go into an Apple Store and show them the issues and let them find a solution.
SnowCrocodile
macrumors 6502a
Here's what it just did on my iPhone:
- I browse folder "Documents" in Files, looking for a specific screenshot
- I open a file and it's not what I wanted. Naturally the file opens in "Preview".
- I click the very prominent "Back" button that, instead of Files, takes me to the Preview's main screen. The button to go back to Files is a tiny little thing in the top left corner, hard to see and use on the phone.
- I click on Browse and instead of "Documents" where I started, it opens "Pictures" because that's the last folder that I browsed in Preview a week ago.
- But here's the best part... if I use "Preview" even once in a session, that button to go back to Files disappears. After I manually switch back to Files and open another file from Files - not from Preview - the only button left is the "Back" button that takes me to the main Preview window pointing to a wrong folder. How is this even acceptable?
These glass themes are as old as smartphones themselves. They all look the same and whatever “special” you see about Liquid Glass is just irrelevant as far as the visual impact.
Here, this is not even Android, this is an ancient Windows Mobile skin from about 2010. The glass effect is there, the wallpaper is showing through the "glass" background. In this specific skin, the "glass" was tinted to match the wallpaper color. You could have a less tinted icon that would appear even closer to Liquid Glass but I thought it looked tacky. Still do. Should I find you more examples?
iPad Pro M1. Windowed app mode with maximized window.The mode should not cause bugs.
Apple made it a high friction process with obvious bugs, which is opposite to what Apple used to stand for.
I should not be taken to a completely different interface when hitting a "Back" program. I should not remember to look for another tiny button if I want to go back to where I was browsing from. That button should not just disappear. Whatever Apple's intentions were, the execution is very sloppy and poorly thought through.
I7guy
macrumors Westmere
if you long press in a file in files it will popup a menu where you can choose preview quick look. And then the preview stays in the files app.
says_stuff
macrumors regular
@SnowCrocodile highly grateful to showing examples of friction on the latest os.
Ludatyk
macrumors 604
I agree. The files button is tiny and that needs to be addressed. But the button does exist to get you back to that app.
Wait a min... these two look similar?
SnowCrocodile
macrumors 6502a
Glass effect with transparent icons and screen element boundary showing background reflection through “glass”? Check.
Smooth graphics transitions (in this case, the clock changing numbers)? Check.
They are absolutely similar. Not the same,of course.
Having the glass effect tinted to match the color of background was an added functionality which was actually better implemented than the tinted icons in Liquid Glass. Without it the glass icons would appear brighter / more transparent and even closer to LG. Since this screenshot was taken about 15 years ago and the device no longer exists I can’t turn that option off just to demonstrate it to you.
By the way this was a homemade skin, not an official product.
From the visual design perspective, there’s absolutely nothing new or revolutionary about the glass effect. Perhaps the way Apple handled glass transitions was new from purely technical perspective, but that’s not a big deal for an end user. From the graphical design standpoint, they just regurgitated an old and tired visual concept that’s been around for ages.
Windows 7 in 2009 used and abused the glass effect, and that’s when every homegrown skin maker started making glass effect skins. Not just for mobile but first and foremost for PC (e.g. see glass skins for Rocket Dock).
(My bad, it was Windows Vista in 2007).
Smooth graphics transitions (in this case, the clock changing numbers)? Check.
They are absolutely similar. Not the same,of course.
Having the glass effect tinted to match the color of background was an added functionality which was actually better implemented than the tinted icons in Liquid Glass. Without it the glass icons would appear brighter / more transparent and even closer to LG. Since this screenshot was taken about 15 years ago and the device no longer exists I can’t turn that option off just to demonstrate it to you.
By the way this was a homemade skin, not an official product.
From the visual design perspective, there’s absolutely nothing new or revolutionary about the glass effect. Perhaps the way Apple handled glass transitions was new from purely technical perspective, but that’s not a big deal for an end user. From the graphical design standpoint, they just regurgitated an old and tired visual concept that’s been around for ages.
(My bad, it was Windows Vista in 2007).
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says_stuff
macrumors regular
I seriously hope you have noticed how the goalposts will just keep moving forever no matter what info you provide.
Like how i’m not allowed to voice opinions because i haven’t installed the thing,
so i can’t have possibly seen or read about it,
but then even if i had installed it,
i would have to have spent more than * hours on it,
and then if i did spend that time,
i would have to also provide photographs of me reading the eula
and then i would have to provide receipts of me going to the genius bar and the transcript of them confirming how my device isn’t broken and ..
Like how i’m not allowed to voice opinions because i haven’t installed the thing,
so i can’t have possibly seen or read about it,
but then even if i had installed it,
i would have to have spent more than * hours on it,
and then if i did spend that time,
i would have to also provide photographs of me reading the eula
and then i would have to provide receipts of me going to the genius bar and the transcript of them confirming how my device isn’t broken and ..
SnowCrocodile
macrumors 6502a
Here's another example "borrowed" from a very old forum. Note the date. Tell me what's drastically different in Apple's glass effects.
Yes. The moving goalposts are a given. But when you converse on a forum like that, you always talk to more people than just whoever it is you are replying to.
I7guy
macrumors Westmere
SnowCrocodile
macrumors 6502a
So you agree that the static design of LG is very similar to the homemade skins that were around for over 16+ years?
The dynamic changes are cool… I guess… only really notice them when I slide the screen.
However, these dynamic changes alone are not “revolutionary” - perhaps they are from the software development perspective, but from the visual experience, I don’t see that as something significantly more interesting than, say, the flipping watch in that Sense skin from 2010. Or that dynamically changing beautiful weather widget from the first Sense screenshot I posted.
And I thought the clear glass effect was cheesy then - that’s why I chose the skin that had the wallpaper color tint applied. And I still think it’s cheesy now. Of course this is just my personal subjective taste. At any rate, I wish Apple spent these resources on something more … tangibly beneficial.
SnowCrocodile
macrumors 6502a
Here’s another issue I forgot to list: on top of all that inconsistency with Preview, it only works when you tap on some file types (PDFs, images) but the old Quick View opens if yit select other files (e.g. Word documents or spreadsheets). So while browsing the contents of a folder, there’s now two completely different ways to perform the same action, with different and widely inconsistent user actions required to get back to the list you’re browsing.
This is… extremely amateurish.
Ludatyk
macrumors 604
I might need to stay away from this thread. This is bunkers! I shouldn't have to tell you how drastically different it is than Liquid Glass... you only see "oh look it's transparent" so that means it's a borrowed idea that Apple took.
When it's a completely different principle... if you watched the keynote it explains how they went about designing Liquid Glass. It's about how elements move when you interact with it... liquid moving across surface hence the word liquid.