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Well, you have to admit that only Apple produces products that people are willing to stand in line for. I am pretty sure I have not seen folks stand in line for a new Dell product, or anything from Microsoft either. I honestly think that the sales/demand for IPad 2 was even greater than Apple imagined it would be.
 
What pisses me off are the people who even don't care about the product standing in line for hours and hours just so they can go and flip them on eBay or craigslist. It seems like 50% of the iPads sold were to those people... They need to go get a real job... What a bunch of losers
 
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I waited in line at the apple store at the keystone mall in Indy only to have them sell out in front of me. All other retailers were also sold out. The local apple phone line was busy almost all day, but when I did finally get a hold of someone, he said he couldn't tell me when they would get another shipment in, but adamantly kept telling me to "check again on Tuesday morning".

Hopefully they will get regular restocks in.

As far as all this conspiracy talk of constricting supply to build hype, I say BS. They are making and shipping as quickly as humanly (chinesely) possible. The yellow spots from the adhesive not drying yet is a testament to that.

The iPad was the most successful new product launch OF ALL TIME. Ofcourse there are goIng to be strains on production and shipment of the iPad 2. I myself am someone who desperately wanted the first iPad but patiently waited for the secod version to come out so they could iron out all the wrinkles (and add cameras!)



I just can't wait until the next shipment comes in.

same thing happened to me at the UTC store in San Diego. Mismanagement of the line didnt help, the manager really botched it, no or little communication until "we sold out" I managed to get on at another Apple store in San Diego that is ran much better (fashion valley). they happened to get some in just when I arrived and only about 20 people in line ahead of me.
 
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What pisses me off are the people who even don't care about the product standing in line for hours and hours just so they can go and flip them on eBay or craigslist. It seems like 50% of the iPads sold were to those people... They need to go get a real job... What a bunch of losers

what I had a problem with is people at the front of the line getting 2 vouchers buying one ipad and trying to sell the other voucher towards the end of the line and the employees saying that they've been told it's ok.

WTF
 
People are crazy about the scarcity issue. Does anyone remember how hard it was to get an iPhone 4 in a retail store for months after the iPhone 4 came out? Apple wasn't holding back.. There is no advantage to them holding back as they will sell as many as they can make...

Name a recent product launch of IOS devices where Apple was sitting on big inventories EVER.. Hasn't happened, so claiming they are creating false shortages to avoid that is ridiculous.

The reality is the way Apple ramps their production cycle they don't even get up to reaching a point of channel saturation until it is time to release the next product.. So they never really catch up... Not having enough products for everyone who wants to buy them all the time is not a strategy to make more money lol.

On the other hand you don't make money overproducing and building up big inventories. Apple could push back launch and build up more stock but what is the point of having 1 million iPad 2s sit in a warehouse instead of in customer hands.. How does that benefit anybody? Just so they can say everyone got one super easy on launch day? So most people who want one had to wait two more months and Apple had to carry two more months of inventory.. Just not a good idea from any direction..

So Apple launches at a time when they have enough capacity to get things rolling and keeps building from there.. It is what they have done with most of their products for a very long time.. There is no conspiracy or false scarcity... The scarcity comes from people buying everything they have made.
 
What pisses me off are the people who even don't care about the product standing in line for hours and hours just so they can go and flip them on eBay or craigslist. It seems like 50% of the iPads sold were to those people... They need to go get a real job... What a bunch of losers

Yeah, I'm a tad annoyed at that as well. In retrospect though, they did it for the PS3, Xbox, Wii, and basically anything else on launch day. My perverted sense of humor hopes that we see something akin to the PS3 scenario though: a huge chunk of launch PS3's ended up on eBay and flooded the market, and a lot of those resellers ended up losing money to get them off their hands.
 
did the earthquake have anything to do with shipments from china? (I know it's the least of our worries, just curious)

Short answer = NO !!!

Longer answer... = Seriously... ?!?!?!? Yes it is the least of your worries. Did you even THINK before asking this question.. iPad 2 went on sale Friday afternoon in USA... which is Saturday lunchtime in this part of the world. The earthquake in JAPAN... not China... happened 5pm on Friday afternoon local time in Japan... aka as late Thursday nite in USA...

Ask yourself HOW could these events have possibly impacted the stock movements of electronics that would have likely been manufactured many WEEKS earlier and been sitting in USA many many days before the JAPANESE earthquake of Friday... nowhere near China... nor was China on any tsunami alert listing or in any danger of any tsunami from Friday's Japanese earthquake.

China is "the world's factory"... why would ships laden with goods for export transit via Japan ? Have you seen a map of the earth. Ships from China to Japan will be full of containers destined for Japan. Ships from China to USA will be full of containers for North American continent. Average transit time for container ship across pacific from China to USA West Coast... 22-26 days... meaning any iPad 2's in FCL's destined for distribution to Apple supply chain in USA in time for March 11th release... would have set sail 3-4 weeks ago at bare minimum...

But no... I'm fairly sure the earthquake in Japan from <36 hours ago affected the launch day availability of iPad 2's half a globe away... :-|


(yes I realise that Apple was probably also airfreighting iPad2's to USA right up to (and beyond) the 11th March... but that's even MORE reason ask yourself why an earthquake in Japan would affect supply from China to USA ?)
 
Uk?

You have to wonder if this demand is going to affect the sales starting in other countries on the 25th March.

It maybe that Apple have already started to manufacture and ship for those countries (as the contents and packaging will be different), but we don't know that.

Whatever happens demand will outstrip supply for a few months to come.
Not much they could do about that really.
To build up a huge stock they would have had to have stopped building iPad 1 models evener longer ago, which would have resulted in those running out of stock, even before the new model was announced. That would have caused just as many complaints.

However you look at it. The factories can only make so many per month. If the peak of initial demand outstrips the monthly manufacturing number then they will run out!
 
guys, especially many of your macrumor long-time veteran, stop fueling the conspiracy theory!
many clear-headed people reasonably and logically explained to you that,

1. a company cannot design a manufacturing capacity for the initial surge. if apple is able to meet the demand of 1,000 people in line for every apple store, it means when there is no one queueing in front of Apple store a month from now, Apple will over-produce 1000x of its products. it will be a huge nightmare.

if you are selling lemonade for example, and you prepare to sell 100 cups a day. a worker can make 50 cups a day. how many workers will you hire? you will hire two. but what if i tell you all 99 people will order in the first minute, and the last guy will order at the end of the day, are you going to hire 99 people so all 99 cups could be made once, to eliminate a line? Then throughout the day you will have 99 idle workers.

This example is similar to a manufacturing plant, except you can simply lay off these 99 workers. But in a factory, you cannot just eliminate a production line, or lay off real workers.

2. Apple cannot allow pre-order because it would undercut all the retailers that are onboard to sell iPad. Why would people shop from Target or Best Buy if they can pre-order from Apple?

3. iPhone 4 launch allowed pre-order but it also led to a lot of complaints from people who weren't able to pre-order, and had to wait in line for 10+ hours while watching people who pre-ordered walked into the store after waiting after only 2-3 hours. People who couldn't pre-order thought this process was very unfair to them (after all they waited all night in the cold weather). Perhaps their complaints had prompted Apple to change its policy to release in the afternoon (Better weather and easier to start the line). Also, it's fairest to everyone whether you have internet or not, whether you have heard of pre-order or not. It's very simple. We are selling iPad 2 at 5pm. If you want it, you come and get it in line.
 
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People are crazy about the scarcity issue. Does anyone remember how hard it was to get an iPhone 4 in a retail store for months after the iPhone 4 came out? Apple wasn't holding back.. There is no advantage to them holding back as they will sell as many as they can make...

Name a recent product launch of IOS devices where Apple was sitting on big inventories EVER.. Hasn't happened, so claiming they are creating false shortages to avoid that is ridiculous.

The reality is the way Apple ramps their production cycle they don't even get up to reaching a point of channel saturation until it is time to release the next product.. So they never really catch up... Not having enough products for everyone who wants to buy them all the time is not a strategy to make more money lol.

On the other hand you don't make money overproducing and building up big inventories. Apple could push back launch and build up more stock but what is the point of having 1 million iPad 2s sit in a warehouse instead of in customer hands.. How does that benefit anybody? Just so they can say everyone got one super easy on launch day? So most people who want one had to wait two more months and Apple had to carry two more months of inventory.. Just not a good idea from any direction..

So Apple launches at a time when they have enough capacity to get things rolling and keeps building from there.. It is what they have done with most of their products for a very long time.. There is no conspiracy or false scarcity... The scarcity comes from people buying everything they have made.


This is exactly right, i don't understand why some people have a hard time understanding this.

The idea that Steve Jobs is sitting in his ivory tower chortling to himself;

lines, lines, everywhere lines and nary an iPad insight is ridicules.

products in customers hands=money in the bank.;)
 
I think the phrases "please be patient" and "not having an iPad 2 on release isn't going to kill you" are important here. All of us original iPad users (including me) are just laughing at the greed here. Unfortunately Steve Jobs can't get their engineers to create a magic wand so he can magic iPad 2's into every customers hands instantly.

If you were clever enough, brave enough and early enough to get to the front of the first come first serve system, well done to you. As we can see see already, some manufacturing defects appearing in the initial batch, so it might be best to sit and wait for unrushed iPad 2s when the demand comes down.
 
There is absolutely no doubt that Apple would prefer to have a product that requires waiting all day in line and a month by mail order. No doubt. If everyone had the product in the first weekend, people would move on to the next story.

Yeah that is not it. Apple never catches up with demand for a very long time. They make as many as fast as they possibly can and continue to do so for 6+ months after release on many of their products. There is simply no way they could have more ready at launch unless they pushed the launch date back and sat on inventory... Which when you think about it makes no sense.


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Apple should have allowed pre orders as it does whenever it releases new product, but they decided to create buzz and hype and lines to drive sales. I played that game for iPhone 1, 3G & iPad 1 but no more. I'm as big an Apple dork as there is but I'm done waiting in line for 6 hours to buy an updated product.
As a side, my local Best Buy only received 100 total iPad units & sold out immediately.
Lots of pissed off potential customers.
Again, if Apple allowed preorders they could have gaged the roll out much better.
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Agreed. A better plan would be: Pre-orders yesterday and then physical launch in late March. That way Apple could lessen the amount of online order ship times and less folks would walk away unhappy. Apple would still get the hype and the $...

With this info, I won't expect iPads until April, if and when I finally jump. It won't be for iPad 2, (I'll wait for 4G and several other previously mentioned factors).

I don't like the hype either. It's a part of corporate reality, but isn't what inspires me to buy Apple.

I expect the primary reason why they went back to a no online pre-order model is that they wanted to work with their retail partners. Apple does not give them any leeway on pricing, so I think this was partly done to include their retail partners in the publicity and hype and get them some traffic. Secondly I think the lack of hype with the Verizon iPhone release, made them want to push things up. Primarily though, I see it as a bone to Best Buy, Target, Wal-Mart et all who carry their products and who benefit from these retail launch hysterias.
 
iPad lost the throne. Xbox connect 10 million in the first three months is the new king of fastest initial adoption. Apple launched early as a tactical marketing move against an army of Android tablets on the horizon. They did not do a super jod of the launch but I don't buy conspiracy theories. Then again it only took me three hours to get the model I wanted.
 
(yes I realise that Apple was probably also airfreighting iPad2's to USA right up to (and beyond) the 11th March... but that's even MORE reason ask yourself why an earthquake in Japan would affect supply from China to USA ?)

Not also, ONLY. High value electronics always go by air. Period.

However, given that many airports were either damaged or shut down during the quake, planes in the air needed to land somewhere. I doubt any landed in China, but airspace is always at a premium during ground disasters and flights, especially non-essential cargo flights go to the back of the line.
 
At the Scottsdale Apple Store, I was told that all IPads were sold. And no new ones were expected for a month.

The apple ee who told me this was not very personable, so he may have just been so tired and frustrated that he was giving me a quick brushoff.

You were probably the thousanth person to ask that question that day, so it's understandable.
 
Value? The media attention that comes from a 'sell out' product. If someone lined up and waited, I'm sure Apple assumes they will come back at some point.

What I think clinches this as a planned event is how they changed their policy of pre-order reservation and at-home delivery, to encourage people to wait in line to get the item first. If Apple followed the SAME sales pattern as before, I don't know if I would be so suspicious of supply manipulation. However, they got a black eye at no lines for Verizon iPhones and I think did this as to no repeat that unpleasantness again.

The media attention comes from the product. The iPad has been embraced to a ridiculous level compared to any tablet ever. Version 2 did not require additional hype. It is obvious that they are shipping them as fast as possible. It's an old cliche that became actual this week, they aren't even dry, yet.

Also, the Verizon iPhone preorder was a benefit to its existing customers. That appeared to be the only reason for it. A tablet or computer has no such issue, whereas the phones are tied to the carrier, not just Apple.

When you know there will be high demand, ridiculously high demand (iPad, PS3, etc), you simply make as many as you can and get them in the channel as fast as possible. Later, you might be able to prolong hype by limiting shipments, see Nintendo Wii. But up front? If they don't have enough, they annoy people like you. They know that and don't want to, but you can only build so many thousand/day.
 
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Well, you have to admit that only Apple produces products that people are willing to stand in line for. I am pretty sure I have not seen folks stand in line for a new Dell product, or anything from Microsoft either. I honestly think that the sales/demand for IPad 2 was even greater than Apple imagined it would be.

Nintendo Wii
Sony PS3
Sony PSP
Microsoft Xbox 360

...are just a few items that people have been known to stand in line for. I guess you may have missed them.
 
Nintendo Wii
Sony PS3
Sony PSP
Microsoft Xbox 360

...are just a few items that people have been known to stand in line for. I guess you may have missed them.

I do stand corrected. Since I am not a gamer, I admit I do not pay nearly as much attention to those items like I do Apple products. But, I do not think folks stood in line for a Xoom, nor for any version of a Droid phone like they did for the IPad or IPhone.
 
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