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I honestly couldn't care less about shipments. However, as estimates, it's incredible how one line of tablets was able to suppress android growth in that respect, despite the big focus on specs and price of Amazon and google. Now image an iPad Mini (or not, whatever). Windows 8 needs to arrive already as it will shake up this market.
 
So does my coworker....but he has it hacked to run android. He should of just bought an iPad and saved the pain of having to reboot constantly and suffer tremendous lag.

I have android on mine too. Running AOKP. Really smooth actually... maybe he should try a new rom. I was laggy on CM9 but now I'm not, and I only paid $100 for mine
 
I have an older Android tablet (not the Nexus 7) and it doesn't get much use. I am anxious to try out the Nexus 7 or one of the newer tablets to see if they've improved -- but I won't buy another one "blindly" without using it first.

I might buy the new iPad mini, because I do like the smaller form factor for reading books and for some games.

I think the current iPad has nailed the size though. I use mine constantly. It's large enough to get actual work done on -- and I think that's one of the reasons it's selling so well.
 
Im a long time iphone user but i just got my first ipad and am suprised how more useful it is than I thought it would be. Hardly use my macbook anymore. Reccomending it to all friends/family, i do believe phones are down to taste now that android is a bit more fluid but the ipad has no competitors.
 
I know I am getting ahead of myself, but what do you guys think they will do for the 4rth gen Ipad?
They got the display, obv a small spec bump. But since it's been 2 years on the design (pretty much) think they will change the design?
 
I'm still waiting to find out the impact an iPad Mini would have on the lower end tablet market. I wonder if it would completely dominate the entire marketshare of the lower end tablets or if it would just make a small impact in their market share.
There was a post on mashable.com which is making the rounds on twitter saying Apple has to release an iPad mini and it has to be $199. The problem with that is Apple's in the business of making money off devices. Google and Amazon aren't. They can sell their tablet at cost (or even a loss) knowing they'll most likely make it up in other ways. I can't see Apple releasing a 7" tablet that's equal to (or better) than the Nexus 7 for $199. And if they do put something out that's $50 or $100 more will people bite? Are people buying the Nexus 7 because of the form factor or price (or a bit of both)? Or are their sales mostly to gadget geeks who have to have the latest and greatest products and are company/platform agnostic?
 
I can't believe that I am the first to point out that Strategy Analytics described iPad sale as shipped when Tim Cook clearly described the 17 million units as sold.
Does Apple count tablets in stock at Best Buy, Target, Walmart, etc. as sold or shipped?
 
I know I am getting ahead of myself, but what do you guys think they will do for the 4rth gen Ipad?
They got the display, obv a small spec bump. But since it's been 2 years on the design (pretty much) think they will change the design?

What change are you looking for exactly?
 
I know the Microsoft surface is only vapor ware at this point but I can't help but think that a lot of people will be flocking to it.

Well, ...the Pro version at least.

I don't know about flocking. There will doubtless be buyers but I think a lot of Microsoft's woes in mobile come from this weird insistence on branding everything with the Windows name. What the guys at Microsoft don't seem to get is that the average user out there associates "Windows" with a myriad of headaches, crashes, viruses, lost files, petty annoyances, etc. I think seeing that brand name attached to a phone summons all sorts of crazy scenarios in the minds of consumers that they want nothing to do with.

Look at Microsoft's biggest success in the last decade--Xbox 360. It's basically a Windows PC optimized for games but not one mention of the Windows brand anywhere on it. I think MS needs to come to terms with the folly of putting Windows everywhere. It's just bad marketing.
 
I know the Microsoft surface is only vapor ware at this point but I can't help but think that a lot of people will be flocking to it.

Well, ...the Pro version at least.

Only to be disappointed when their fantasy of convergence/hybrid doesn't live up to reality. If the Pro version will have price points comparable to Ultrabooks why wouldn't you just buy an Ultrabook? Wouldn't be as portable, but I'm assuming you'd get more value for the money. MS never gave out much in the way of specs (esp battery life) for either the RT or Pro model.
 
Lets be totally honest.

The iPad makes up the majority of the Tablet market, because its the best tablet. By far, by leaps and bounds. And I HATE the iPad, but its still the best tablet out there by a huge margin, android tablets are meh, Windows 7 is iffy.

I honestly hope the Microsoft surface is as good as it looks to be, because I could see Surface/iPad making up the most of the market in a couple years time. The Surface imo is the only tablet comparble to the iPad

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I don't know about flocking. There will doubtless be buyers but I think a lot of Microsoft's woes in mobile come from this weird insistence on branding everything with the Windows name. What the guys at Microsoft don't seem to get is that the average user out there associates "Windows" with a myriad of headaches, crashes, viruses, lost files, petty annoyances, etc. I think seeing that brand name attached to a phone summons all sorts of crazy scenarios in the minds of consumers that they want nothing to do with.

Look at Microsoft's biggest success in the last decade--Xbox 360. It's basically a Windows PC optimized for games but not one mention of the Windows brand anywhere on it. I think MS needs to come to terms with the folly of putting Windows everywhere. It's just bad marketing.

So, Windows XP? And Windows 7? The most popular Operating systems ever to exist? Were failures?
 
Just wait until the 7.85" iPad comes out. That number will go up to 88% when a lot of people including people on this forum who say they would never buy a smaller iPad buy one for the holidays.:D
 
There was a post on mashable.com which is making the rounds on twitter saying Apple has to release an iPad mini and it has to be $199.

Far be it from me to argue with the authority of someone on mashable ;) but I think Apple only has to come within striking distance of $199. They can leverage their brand image to do the rest. I'm betting a $249/$299 iPad Mini would decimate the competition. People will look at the selection and say "$50 more for an iPad instead of a low-budget knock-off?" Easy sell if you ask me.
 
I know the Microsoft surface is only vapor ware at this point but I can't help but think that a lot of people will be flocking to it.

Well, ...the Pro version at least.

Stop using silly definitions. It isn't vaporware unless it is late, or you really expect it to never exist. I'm hardly a MS fan, but vapor it isn't.
 
So, Windows XP? And Windows 7? The most popular Operating systems ever to exist? Were failures?

Of course not but do you know anyone who is excited about them? I don't. And be real, most of the copies sold are shipped on new machines. It's not like people are rushing out in large numbers to get the latest version of Windows.

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Stop using silly definitions. It isn't vaporware unless it is late, or you really expect it to never exist. I'm hardly a MS fan, but vapor it isn't.

If Surface isn't vaporware then why were there no actual hands-on demos then?
 
Not surprising considering Apple has blocked others from sale, it's almost a monopoly on the market.

Meh I don't care, the Nexus 7 rocks. And i think the Galaxy Note 10.1 will be a good seller, if it isn't blocked by Apple.

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There was a post on mashable.com which is making the rounds on twitter saying Apple has to release an iPad mini and it has to be $199. The problem with that is Apple's in the business of making money off devices. Google and Amazon aren't. They can sell their tablet at cost (or even a loss) knowing they'll most likely make it up in other ways. I can't see Apple releasing a 7" tablet that's equal to (or better) than the Nexus 7 for $199. And if they do put something out that's $50 or $100 more will people bite? Are people buying the Nexus 7 because of the form factor or price (or a bit of both)? Or are their sales mostly to gadget geeks who have to have the latest and greatest products and are company/platform agnostic?

Sigh, the problem with a $199 iPad is really very simple, it's the ENTIRE iPod range, because Apple will either have to drop the entire iPod range, or accept seriously damaging it's iPod sales.
This plus the reasons you give are why Apple will never sell a 7" iPad for $199, thus they will price themselves out of that market, thus they are never going to launch a 7" iPad.
It's all rumours anyway, no factual proof exists of a 7" iPad.
 
Not surprising considering Apple has blocked others from sale, it's almost a monopoly on the market.

Meh I don't care, the Nexus 7 rocks. And i think the Galaxy Note 10.1 will be a good seller, if it isn't blocked by Apple.

Apple is not dominating the market because of blocked sales. It's not like Galaxy Tabs were flying off the shelves. If they were Samsung and the tech blogs would be crowing about it like they are with the Galaxy S III and Nexus 7.

Quite honestly I think the Nexus 7 impacts Kindle Fire and other Android tablets more than the iPad.
 
I don't know about flocking. There will doubtless be buyers but I think a lot of Microsoft's woes in mobile come from this weird insistence on branding everything with the Windows name. What the guys at Microsoft don't seem to get is that the average user out there associates "Windows" with a myriad of headaches, crashes, viruses, lost files, petty annoyances, etc.

That's odd, with over a billion users worldwide I highly doubt that the average Joe thinks that. More likely if will be, at last, a tablet with a familiar OS.
 
How disappointing.
I would have expected the market share to be 90% since the iPad is so awesome.

IMO, I believe the market share for the iPad has peaked and will only gain a little more market share as it's clearly shown.
They may be selling millions but 90% of new sales are probably current owners upgrading.

The used ones are probably destroyed since they are obsolete.

*Posted on iPad
 
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