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iPhone 11 Pro iPhone 11 hugely better RAM performance than the Pro models on iOS 13.0
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Freakonomics101
macrumors 68030
I say just use the phone the way you’d like. If it works to your liking, keep it. If not, return it and try something else. I am legit diagnosed with OCD so I am picky but I tried the 5.8 Pro and I like it. My thing is battery life and the 5.8 Pro seems to be good enough for me. The camera.... OH GOOD LORD. I’m amazed. I was able to take a clear picture of the stars last night. Uploaded in medium quality so it doesn’t look great on here like it does on my phone.
I mentally **** my pants.
russell_314
Suspended
This only works if you spin counterclockwise on your office chair while singing we are the champions
Drak3
macrumors member
iOS' internal resolution isn't the same as the screen's resolution, iOS renders everything at an internal resolution, then upscales it for a final render (which is very undemanding). Assuming iOS 13 and iPhone 11/Pro/Max operate the same as the predecessors, then the 11 and Pro Max use the same internal resolution, the 11 upscales at 2X and the Pro Max at 3X. The 11 Pro, on the other hand, would have a lower internal resolution than the Pro and upscale that at 3X. We wouldn't see the Pro and Pro Max produce interchangeable results if it just boiled down to resolution.
But the difference isn't going to make much difference even if the internal resolution was the same as the screen's outside of gaming /3D rendering. 2D rendering isn't demanding on RAM or the processor doing the rendering. Just look at graphics cards, every one on the market today can render a desktop and most graphically basic apps at 4K with little effort, and it's been like that for quite a long time. Many of the older ones that can't, are due to limitations with the version of HDMI or DisplayPort they have, not RAM or GPU power.
I stated what I use my phone for and I’m obviously here because I’m having apps restart. TBH, I think most of it is iOS optimization issues but it’s still annoying for a phone that costs well over a grand.
tps3443
macrumors 65816
OP shouldn’t buy a new iPhone. I think he should wait. Current model iPhone’s and current iOS software is not meeting his requirements or expectations apparently.
Maybe wait until 2020.
Maybe wait until 2020.
Of course, the diference in my test was HUGE.
Open apps in first page of all phones, take 1 picture and then the pro model reload every single app and the iphone 11 standard keep all in memory except the edition on photos.
If that it is not huge difference, you should have done the test with me and...believe me, your face would change in a sec. I dont mind if its due to having three cameras or to resolution or to lack of optimization in ios 13 but the test was made in the same conditions with ram previously cleared and the results were shocking.
only for taking 1 miserable standard picture. Not video, not panorama, not making an edit imovie film or a game. One picture and pro model cleared all in ram of the apps preinstalled in the first page. Tipically: calendar, clock, messages, phone app, wallet...
I was shocked because i noticed something was wrong and i only want to share with all of us to make a friendly and constructive thread. NOT to ofend people ego or to say pro model are bad. Nothing...
I cant understand why some take this threads so personal.
It was very noticiable and I was the FIRST surprised. What I think is that is lack of optimization even though maybe 2gb extra of ram for the pro would help. Who knows...maybe...apple.
have a great day and again...calm feelings and talk in a friendly way. This is not personal or fake news.
If ios 13.1 solves this I would be happy because apple take consideration of this problem quickly. Was not the same with ios 11 which was a completely headache until ios 12 arrived.
My 3 cents...
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Totally agree. I cant understand why some take this so personal. Its a non sense
One more thing...I believe that opening all apps in first page was not necessary to reproduce the problem. I think that maybe with the first or second line would be enough before taking one picture and then check if everything has reload. I was only trying to fill more ram but not too much. I explained before, were normal apps, not demanding apps. If i did the test with 3 apps i dont see the sense. For that I buy a motorola moto c of 69€
People tend to make the critic at graphic examples that try to help understanding the problem. It is not saying is your day by day use.
I have never seen this difference in other iphones previously.
And for those who say that their phone performs perfect...ok. It is the same as with the screens. Put them together and you will notice in favor oled but if not the liquid retina is great.
In this case i think putting phone together is shocking as you see the results in person as I did but it is not necessary. If i do this test on my own in only pro model and i got everything reload i will be upstet with one device in hand what doesnt happen with the liquid retina in hand on its own.
Think about it.
People tend to make the critic at graphic examples that try to help understanding the problem. It is not saying is your day by day use.
I have never seen this difference in other iphones previously.
And for those who say that their phone performs perfect...ok. It is the same as with the screens. Put them together and you will notice in favor oled but if not the liquid retina is great.
In this case i think putting phone together is shocking as you see the results in person as I did but it is not necessary. If i do this test on my own in only pro model and i got everything reload i will be upstet with one device in hand what doesnt happen with the liquid retina in hand on its own.
Think about it.
btrach144
macrumors 68040
try the test on 13.1. your test is already old news unless you try 13.1
Maybe. I said before that i would be happy if ios 13.1 solved it.
I made the test the day before ios 13.1 arrived because was when i go to an apple store casually. Post it that day and i couldnt go to a store again. I usually dont go everyday to apple stores...laugh
thanks. I am really willing to test it again and to publish it inmediately with a SOLVED
FINAL THOUGHTS. Coming right now of an apple store, an fnac and mediamarkt store.
Non sense. I tried again the test in phones running under ios 13.0 and under 13.1
1) The most strange thing. Some phones running under ios 13.0 had that terrible performance (fnac ones). Others like on mediamarkt perform very well. Maybe it´s due to preloaded apps in some carriers or some shops.
2) Ios 13.1 improve performance in both iphone 11 and 11 pro. Now it´s ok in both even though the standard model is slightly quicker in animations due to having less pixel to push but the difference is nothing to take care of.
3) This was an interesting thread for me experimenting in models with different software preloaded and surprised me especially the ones on point (1)
4) Now, have a great day everybody and rest in peace.
Non sense. I tried again the test in phones running under ios 13.0 and under 13.1
1) The most strange thing. Some phones running under ios 13.0 had that terrible performance (fnac ones). Others like on mediamarkt perform very well. Maybe it´s due to preloaded apps in some carriers or some shops.
2) Ios 13.1 improve performance in both iphone 11 and 11 pro. Now it´s ok in both even though the standard model is slightly quicker in animations due to having less pixel to push but the difference is nothing to take care of.
3) This was an interesting thread for me experimenting in models with different software preloaded and surprised me especially the ones on point (1)
4) Now, have a great day everybody and rest in peace.
I did, but I couldn't find any sort of official Apple support document detailing the process, or that it's a recommended troubleshooting step, or that the described process actually does anything at all.
I7guy
macrumors Westmere
It’s called tuning the device for the majority use case vs price vs battery life.
To your second point, go Tim, my Apple holdings are excited.
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I’ve gone 24+ hours and YouTube hasn’t reloaded. I’ll never say never, but say usually.
I7guy
macrumors Westmere
Because its not mosts people’s use case to use 25 apps simultaneously in a workflow and then take a picture and complain about reloads? Maybe people aren’t taking it personally but arguing / discussing using the phone like that is what get clicks on YouTube videos. Either way the phone should work for your workflow, not some theoretical situation.
Anyway I’m going to be playing around with these phones in the Apple store today.
In fact, that is the process for clearing ram. If you don´t believe it, do the following:
restart the phone so ram is for sure cleared.
then open 2-3 apps or 1. It doesn’t matter.
Open them again and you will see they are already opened in ram
After that, let´s clear ram. Do exactly the process as described in the video I posted If you need a visual explanation. It needs to be the way it is done, not similar:
1) enable assistive touch
2) one press in volume Up
3) one press in volume down
3) one long press in power button
4) click the assistive touch button while on the shutdown screen (the one without the emergency call option...if not you do it wrong)
5) long press the home button of the virtual assistive touch which is showed with The other options
6) if you do it right you will be back in home screen and ram cleared. Take into consideration that you can`t press the button, wait 2 or more seconds and then do the next step. In that case it doesn’t work. You need to be reasonable quickly. nothing of other world but consistent in speed
After doing that, open whatever app you opened before doing the process and you will see it reloads fully.
That means was cleared from the background.
if you like try using some app with ram statistics and you will see that inmediately after doing the process, the ram is being reallocated in active, inactive, free, used...
saberahul
macrumors 68040
Couldn’t agree more. Reminds me of the time when the blackberry storm came out. People were happy initially at all the things it could do with the push down screen. I simply hated the fact that you couldn’t stay on a call long enough to say hello because the push down screen would keep hanging up for you.
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I wish I had this much time on my hands... not being sarcastic, I genuinely mean it.
I think you're missing the point. Time doesn't "add up". No one gets an extra few hours or days back at the end of the year because they had a more efficient phone. You can't even use those 15 seconds you saved today and enjoy them this evening. Time doesn't work that way. You can measure the amount of time lost, but you can't really reclaim it or use it in any meaningful way. So, in my opinion, the whole "it really adds up over time" argument is completely pointless and misleading. Unless one is interested in useless statistics, like how much of our lives we spend in the bathroom.
tps3443
macrumors 65816
I ran the test as you described. I even recorded the screen doing so. No app reload on any apps, after taking a photo and reopening each one again.
I will upload video around 6:30-7:00pm
midwestfisherma
macrumors 6502
Drak3
macrumors member
Yeah. If RAM was as huge an issue as people are making it out to be, the XR wouldn't have been the popular choice of last generation.
tps3443
macrumors 65816