iPhone 11 Lineup Said to Include Two-Way Charging Hardware, But Software Disabled

[Khedron]

Apples reputation in your mind doesn't translate to the rest of the population. Apple suffered absolutely zero reputation loss over AirPower.

Try Googling that.

 

[realtuner]

Actually there would be hardware present, along with an additional chip. Apple Watch charges via proprietary methods so the standard Qi coils won’t work as efficient for the watch. Perhaps on AirPods.

It’s a bit of a pain, but hey, it’s Apple we’re talking about.

I already mentioned the chip. But I doubt any teardowns would know what it was. Nobody identified any chips in the S10 teardowns for wireless charging.

 

[agsystems]

To take the contrarian view.....it could also be that Apple is resolved to not talking about any non-ready-to-ship wireless charging features until they are 100% certain it actually works after the AirPower embarrassment.

Exactly - if I am Tim and somebody cannot guaranteed zero issues especially with something as delicate as battery management - then that feature won't be shipped. That designed was probably locked down 2 years ago (likely) by the same folks that also did the Airpower and anything related to charging/battery is tainted.

 

[realtuner]

Try Googling that.

Uh, isn't telling someone to "google an answer" against forum rules?

Apple stock price is up significantly since AirPower was cancelled. Their quarterly results immediately after they cancelled set a new company record. They still have the highest customer satisfaction in the industry.

Your claim is pure BS.

 

[truthertech]

I have tried this once with my S10+. The device you are charging, charges slowly so I have never tried it again. I always keep an Anker 21,000 battery pack in my car because it charges much faster. the Anker fast charges my S10+ and my Note 10.

I am skipping the iPhone this year and bought the Note 10+ instead.

Your overlords at Google thank you for sharing all the intimate details of your, and your family's life with them. Without you using the Note 10, the dossier Google has on you would be missing out on lots of data, such as every search you make, every photo you take, every where you drive/walk/bike, every document you upload, every email, everything you say to the Assistant, etc., etc.

Again, on behalf of Google's data harvesters, thank you for ignoring those privacy nuts at Apple. Your family's information is safe with us and our successor companies and partners and advertisers, and is only occasionally given up to law enforcement, intel agencies and hackers. You are thanked heartily for your contribution, and the worldwide, perpetual license you give Google to use your private data, and they will be sending you a "free" smart speaker for your home in appreciation.

 

[MauiPa]

But why disable it will it ever be released

ummmm, wasn't working properly at initial release?
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I'm interested even more now to see what the iFixIt teardown reveals. If it does reveal hardware for bilateral charging, Apple will almost HAVE to make a statement explaining why they chose to abort the feature at the last minute. Talk about bad PR.

no bad PR is having something announced, pre-ordered and then prove to be a failure. Ever heard of the Samsung Crinkle #CrinkleGate?

 

[tdar]

Let's remember that this would have not been able to charge a Apple Watch. They do not use the Qi standard. They use an Apple standard. So the practical value of this is low IMHO.

 

[MauiPa]

Does anyone really give a damn about this feature? I sure don’t. Sounds like it’s just another thing to complain about just because and when we finally have it no one will ever use it.

I agree. All the hoopla about fast charging too, ruins your battery , but hey, fast to charge, fast to replace
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Where would you put your hands?

do not go there!
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it would be nice to have the ability to charge my apple watch but honestly if I had to lay my phone flat on the table and basically disable my phone to charge my watch I doubt I would use the feature - it will be an interesting topic of discussion if they in fact built the 11 with the hardware but decided last minute to disable the feature. This could be the ultimate "oh, and one last thing..." if they turn the feature on next Friday- haha

I can see the Samsung commercial now. A clueless looking Apple guy lying on the floor, looking up through a glass table at his phone, all the while plugged into a wall socket and with wired earphones

 

[code-m]

But why disable it will it ever be released

2020 models, Apple had done something similar in the past by limiting/disabling hardware capability via software.

 

[Jim Lahey]

I have skimmed through much of this so apologies if it's already been discussed, but to my knowledge Apple Watch is not Qi compliant? This being the case then I can completely understand why they would not want to draw attention to an inefficient feature that doesn't charge the device that most might commonly hope it would.

 

[Mactendo]

Just what I told. It’s there.

 

[Khedron]

Uh, isn't telling someone to "google an answer" against forum rules?

Apple stock price is up significantly since AirPower was cancelled. Their quarterly results immediately after they cancelled set a new company record. They still have the highest customer satisfaction in the industry.

Your claim is pure BS.

The radiation reports immediately after Chernobyl were fine too

 

[Jsameds]

Try Googling that.

Try asking 20 average iPhone users what Airpower is. I'd be surprised if you got more than one person who did.

 

[bb9]

My guess is that it would nuke your battery to the point where it's not really worth it. I'm curious to know if it's an issue of hardware/software/or both. If it's just software, maybe they can get it figured out eventually.

I think it will just burn up the life cycle of the iphone battery.

 

[agsystems]

I'm interested even more now to see what the iFixIt teardown reveals. If it does reveal hardware for bilateral charging, Apple will almost HAVE to make a statement explaining why they chose to abort the feature at the last minute. Talk about bad PR.

I doubt they will HAVE to make any statement - they never promise this feature

 

[fourthtunz]

Does anyone really give a damn about this feature? I sure don’t. Sounds like it’s just another thing to complain about just because and when we finally have it no one will ever use it.

One extRA thing to complain about ;(
Samsung users say this doesn't work that well.
I'd never use it on a trip. just bring the extra cable for the watch.

 

[csurfr]

The charging efficiency is probably very bad. People are complaining about the Samsung Powershare feature as well. Basically, 80% of power is completely lost as heat (Example: one phone loses 15% battery while the other only gains 3%). It might be ok to charge small devices like an apple watch or the airpods but definitely not a phone.

I've used it on my Note 10+ to charge the galaxy buds just a couple of times. It's not that fast at all, and certainly isn't efficient.

I found it to be more of one of those "look what we can do" features as opposed to anything that is really needed.

 

[agsystems]

I watched some trials of the feature on YouTube. The *best* result I saw was in a 15-minute test. The charger lost 13% of battery life and the chargee only gained 6%. Less than 50% efficient, and a waste of 15 minutes. Considering a fast charger can take your phone from 0-50% in 30 minutes, this feature is nothing but a gimmick.

yea I saw the same youtube video - IMO - this is a marketing feature you can trumpet about - the real benefit is that Apple had to finally add a bigger battery

 

[maxfromdenmark]

it may be activated prior the new AirPods release.
Ifixit help!!!

 

[bbednarz]

The radiation reports immediately after Chernobyl were fine too

You really have some astounding posts. Comparing the Chernobyl incident to Apple's earning?

Come on. Take the hater shades off. Put down the Haterade.

 

[doboy]

No wonder they put a larger battery

 

[MoreRumors?]

If it were enabled, I wouldn't use it anyway. I would bring a battery pack along with a cord and charger if I anticipated in using my phone and Airpod for an extended period.

 

[MrUNIMOG]

This seems unlikely. If the hardware were there, why not enable wireless charging when the iPhone is being charged with a lightning connector? You could charge the phone plus another device off one cable. Efficiency isn't an issue for a phone being charged.

Oh, heat absolutely is.

 

[KPOM]

For those thinking this will be enabled in a future software update, don’t get your hopes up. It would’ve been a selling point, and Apple would’ve talked about it on stage.

My guess is that it hurt battery life too much or wasn’t reliable enough. If they were going to enable it later they’d have said so.

 

[MarkB786]

How is it that Samsung has figured this out very well, but Apple can't seem to do it. Ditto for the charging pad debacle. Where's all that R&D money going?