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Notch doesnt bother me too much except when i m watching videos which you could clear notice this notch ruining your view
XS looks better than 11/Pro overall, agreed?
 
Its funny to notice when new iPhone came out, a bunch of people find it amazing, we cannot have any criticism
Its always same thing
Its not even about design which may be subjective
I have received a ton of agressive replies
Someone suggested me to go on Android in very agressive way really? and i am the troll? lol
I ain't troll and i never understand why you keep posting on such thread if your find it useless
 
My 11 Pro Max looks perfectly fine. It is not art. It is a phone. If I'm looking for "sexy" then I guarantee you that I'm not looking for anything like a phone at all.

Notch doesnt bother me too much except when i m watching videos which you could clear notice this notch ruining your view

How does the notch ruin your view for video?
 
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Its funny to notice when new iPhone came out, a bunch of people find it amazing, we cannot have any criticism
Its always same thing
Its not even about design which may be subjective
I have received a ton of agressive replies
Someone suggested me to go on Android in very agressive way really? and i am the troll? lol
I ain't troll and i never understand why you keep posting on such thread if your find it useless

What do you expect when you come to an apple forum where probably 99% of us love apple products.? You were asking for a fight IMHO.
 
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Wait for next year which is what im doing. No design change = me no buy. And no this year's phone looks same as the X series and yes these things DO matter to me. Why? because thats the way I like phones. I like design changes but this year's isn't. iPhone 12 is going to be a HUGE change. Apparently...I'll get that one.
 
What do you expect when you come to an apple forum where probably 99% of us love apple products.? You were asking for a fight IMHO.
I am an Apple user!
Guess what, people here are even agressive towards their community because i am the black sheep who prefers XS design over 11/Pro
I would debate on design instead of receiving ''insults''...
 
I am an Apple user!
Guess what, people here are even agressive towards their community because i am the black sheep who prefers XS design over 11/Pro
I would debate on design instead of receiving ''insults''...

So actually the ONLY thing you don’t like about the Pro is the camera cluster!

You will find that no one will have an issue with you preferring the XS over anything. However, the way you word your posts is what’s doing the damage, and not helping your case one bit.
 
I am an Apple user!
Guess what, people here are even agressive towards their community because i am the black sheep who prefers XS design over 11/Pro
I would debate on design instead of receiving ''insults''...
Your thread title is aggressive, and you're surprised at the aggressive responses?
 
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Your thread title is aggressive, and you're surprised at the aggressive responses?
Agressive because i said i dont want to buy (i warned it)?!
Really
You guys stop acting like great community, in fact, most of replies were borderlines
Too much agressive
No offense to you, i was talking in general
 
Agressive because i said i dont want to buy (i warned it)?!
Really
You guys stop acting like great community, in fact, most of replies were borderlines
Too much agressive
No offense to you, i was talking in general
"ïphone 11/pro is ugly" is an aggressive title bud. Anyway, best of luck in whatever phone you choose.
 
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Its hardware compromise instead of design
Antenna bands on 6/6S -> on iPhone 8 its much more discret, that means they could do since the beginning
Wobbly camera on 6/7/8 -> those iPhone were so thin
Face ID notch on X/XS/11/Pro -> same as antenna bands, they could reduce sightly more but to be honest even if its ugly as aesthetic, Face ID brings new and secured way of unlocking phones
In my opinion, Apple lost design appetite
That s why Jony Ive left it
I know this guy is criticized by few/many:
He brought an iconic design product:
- iPhone 4/5
- iMac
- Macbook Air
- Apple Watch
Yes, he was obsessed with thickness but his creations was stunning and sleek
During Jobs/Ive era, it wasn't the best phone on the market only, it was also damn beautiful
That's Apple magic, you wont find it in any other company/product because Jobs was so obsessed with perfection!
Software, ergonomic, design, specs, all does matter to him
Its similar to car analogy, if you bought premium car, do you neglect aesthetic?
I m still thinking when you buy such car, aesthetic is a part of purchase decision
The thread title looks little bit provoking, however i still believe its the best iPhone in term of specs (battery life/camera)
Sorry.

I have more or less agreed with you up to this point, but I diverge where it concerns Ive. While there are some of his products I like and own (and some I own but do not like) for the most part I'm not a fan of his work.

Ive's gave us iOS 7 with it flat, blinding white and Fischer-Price/Playskool colors. He gave us the camera bump, one of the reasons you are complaining in this thread you created. Ive is arrogant, believes his own hype and there didn't seem to be anyone there who could contradict him.

Whether you are right about why he left or not, I am glad he's gone. His influence over Apple design is finally broken.

Good riddance.
 
I was very sceptical about the design until I went to a shop to have a look in person, and it's much better live than in photos. Would still prefer a flat back surface as opposed to having a bump.
 
Hello, perhaps my thread title sounds a bit harsh but iPhone 11/Pro isn't really''attractive''
Maybe for most of you, design/esthetic isn't fundamental but for me it does matter a lot
I currently own Airpods, iPad and iPhone SE, they all looks pretty and sleek
Not to mention about Macbook, iMac, keyboard, trackapd, any Apple products look damnn good
Why their own flagship doesnt sound appealing?
Dont get me wrong, its a pure beast according camera and battery life, but paying 999$ iPhone, i would expect more about esthetic!
Its time to replace my iPhone SE and my main choice -> iPhone XS or Galaxy Note 10
Because both of them look sexy to me, not 11/Pro
Then don't buy it. Problem solved. 🙄
 
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Sorry.

I have more or less agreed with you up to this point, but I diverge where it concerns Ive. While there are some of his products I like and own (and some I own but do not like) for the most part I'm not a fan of his work.

Ive's gave us iOS 7 with it flat, blinding white and Fischer-Price/Playskool colors. He gave us the camera bump, one of the reasons you are complaining in this thread you created. Ive is arrogant, believes his own hype and there didn't seem to be anyone there who could contradict him.

Whether you are right about why he left or not, I am glad he's gone. His influence over Apple design is finally broken.

Good riddance.
Ive was obsessed with thickness, i give you that
The reason of camera bump is iPhone 6/7/8 were too thin, not because of camera design itself which was pretty standard
iOS, i disagree, the reason i love iOS over Android UI was this flat design (way better than material design imo), it comes with personal preference though
Older iOS before 7 looked too outdated
 
Personally I actually like the design, I get not everyone does and it‘s a subjective opinion thing so each to their own. All I’ll say is the day I got the phone I got smoked a lot of weed and found the camera‘s on the back hilarious because they look like a face so I laughed out loud for like 5 minutes and that will always be a fond goofy memory.
 
Personally I actually like the design, I get not everyone does and it‘s a subjective opinion thing so each to their own. All I’ll say is the day I got the phone I got smoked a lot of weed and found the camera‘s on the back hilarious because they look like a face so I laughed out loud for like 5 minutes and that will always be a fond goofy memory.

I don't think that's because of the phone dude
 
For some reason I have the hunch that this OP actually participates on MR under more than one user ID (which is a no-no, of course)...... The obsession with iPhones and the posting and wording style suggesting that English is not this individual's first language are potential clues, at least to me.
 
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Hello, perhaps my thread title sounds a bit harsh but iPhone 11/Pro isn't really''attractive''
Maybe for most of you, design/esthetic isn't fundamental but for me it does matter a lot
I currently own Airpods, iPad and iPhone SE, they all looks pretty and sleek
Not to mention about Macbook, iMac, keyboard, trackapd, any Apple products look damnn good
Why their own flagship doesnt sound appealing?
Dont get me wrong, its a pure beast according camera and battery life, but paying 999$ iPhone, i would expect more about esthetic!
Its time to replace my iPhone SE and my main choice -> iPhone XS or Galaxy Note 10
Because both of them look sexy to me, not 11/Pro

I get what you mean, however I find the 11 Pro/Max to be attractive. The 3 camera lens design is very well done and looks like a piece of jewellery. I have been following this forum during the iPhone 11/Pro leaks and people were complaining about lack of innovations, etc... But I think they did great this year, huge leap in battery performance, better cameras and overall a very well built solid phone.

There's a new design next year apparently, but then again it's going to be a 1st gen design. Personally, I prefer the S years. I do not even notice the notch, screen is large enough that you tend to look below the notch anyway.

We are in an era where Apple's competitors are putting out great phones, so feel free to browse for other options if iPhones are not your thing anymore. iOS to me still offers a far superior user experience than Android, and I haven't had any issues with iOS 13, unlike most people on this forum and tech reviewers. I literally got nothing to complain about the iPhone 11 Pro Max.
 
I stopped reading when a saw you call the iPhone SE pretty and sleek.
Same design as iPhone 5, oh wait, at that time, no one was complaining about this piece or jewelry
In my own opinion, best smartphone design ever, period!

For some reason I have the hunch that this OP actually participates on MR under more than one user ID (which is a no-no, of course)...... The obsession with iPhones and the posting and wording style suggesting that English is not this individual's first language are potential clues, at least to me.
Wrong i have been in this forum since 2013 and even lurked earlier
No more than one user ;)
Yes, i am not native English but i do speak more than 3/4 languages, more or less
You probably got confused with someone else
 
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