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The 6s doubled the RAM from 1GB to 2GB and has lasted four years.

The 11 Pro doubled the RAM from 2GB to 4GB and you don’t expect it to last four years?

Okkkkk.....
It's really funny you try and convey a condescending tone because having a civil discussion is boring I guess?

In 2015 2GB of RAM for iOS was high end and a jump compared to previous generations. It's not like Iphones has kept 2GB of RAM ever since the 6S. In 2019 4GB+ iOS devices have been available for years already.

The X had 3GB, the XS had 4GB. SHOULD THEY have stayed with 4GB this year (jury is still out apparently?), it would be the model in which they choose to stagnate, in spite of RAM prices being really low and especially in contradiction to their keynote stating that when they put "pro" in the name they really mean it.
 
Not sure seen any videos claiming anything ram wise...

Tailosive tech said the Pro Max has 6GB and the 11 has 4GB. And he specifically mentioned the antutu results showing 4GB are invalid and the app doesn’t recognize the device. The Pro models indeed have 6GB of ram
[doublepost=1568734311][/doublepost]Other reviewers are confirming 6GB as well.

I really don’t know what to expect at this point.
 
It's really funny you try and convey a condescending tone because having a civil discussion is boring I guess?

In 2015 2GB of RAM for iOS was high end and a jump compared to previous generations. It's not like Iphones has kept 2GB of RAM ever since the 6S. In 2019 4GB+ iOS devices have been available for years already.

The X had 3GB, the XS had 4GB. SHOULD THEY have stayed with 4GB this year (jury is still out apparently?), it would be the model in which they choose to stagnate, in spite of RAM prices being really low and especially in contradiction to their keynote stating that when they put "pro" in the name they really mean it.

8 is still on sale - has 2GB. Presumably Apple plans to support a device on sale this year for at least a couple of years?

X and OLED phones may have had a ram increase partly for screen resolution increase and with pros partly for camera. The core OS may still not need much more than 2GB for devices that have lower res screens and simpler camera systems
 
The point is that he didn’t actually have a unit to review, so it would just be 2nd hand info.
Why is that relevant? The only reason some people claim 4gb is because apps like antutu and Geekbench say that. Tailosive tech explains why these apps are wrong and the leakers are right.
 
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The point is that he didn’t actually have a unit to review, so it would just be 2nd hand info.

I know this question is so easy. Can someone technical just pop in here with some strong internal apple relations to clarify this for us lol.
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Why is that relevant? The only reason some people claim 4gb is because apps like antutu and Geekbench say that. Tailosive tech explains why these apps are wrong and the leakers are right.

Because we want a 110% solid answer of 6GB or 4GB.
[doublepost=1568734800][/doublepost]I am assuming 6GB now. And 6GB was right from the beginning.
 
Geekbench has been able to measure a phone’s ram including iPhones for a while now, even before Launch. I don’t see why it wouldn’t be able to detect RAM in a iPhone 11 pro...we will see, but seems a bit of wishful thinking
 
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Geekbench has been able to measure a phone’s ram including iPhones for a while now, even before Launch. I don’t see why it wouldn’t be able to detect RAM in a iPhone 11 pro...we will see, but seems a bit of wishful thinking

It recognized my iPad Pro 1TB a long time ago as only 4GB of ram. A memory monitoring app also recognized only 4GB.

So it is possible.
 
8 is still on sale - has 2GB. Presumably Apple plans to support a device on sale this year for at least a couple of years?

X and OLED phones may have had a ram increase partly for screen resolution increase and with pros partly for camera. The core OS may still not need much more than 2GB for devices that have lower res screens and simpler camera systems
Going by the pattern of how long they sell older models, this should be the last year for the 8 though. And once dropped from sale it can receive updates for as little as just one more year. It varies somewhat looking at their history, but buyers of the low-end phone are probably also expecting something more in the lines of basic functionality, and perhaps that their phone won't feel that fast two years down the line.

Remember though that iOS 13 specifically cut off based on RAM size. Not SoC. The iPad Air 2 and mini 4 are surviving solely based on their 2GB of RAM, something many people didn't necessarily find that noteworthy at their release.

That RAM is increased based on base system function needs is a given, but base system functions evolve with the OS updates, and of course it's also worth mentioning 3rd party apps. Since we're getting really sohpisticated cameras on the 11 and 11 Pro, it seems to me a given that more ambitious video and image editing software will make its way onto iOS too. There is no way around that image manipulation can make use of memory, so there it's a "build it and they will come" kind of deal. Up the specs and we eventually get better software!
 
All the reviewers are just following Geekbench and antutu. So why would they know better? We will have to wait for ifixit I guess.
There's always a possibility the apps saying 4 GB are wrong, but Tailosive Tech wouldn't know, and is simply speculating.

In any case, I'd love to be wrong, but like I said before, we still have no credible evidence to confirm 6 GB in these iPhones.

BTW, I find it interesting that almost none of the reviews mention RAM at all. I think that's probably intentional, as advised by Apple. It has been reported before that Apple has guidelines for what should appear in a review and what should not appear in a review, and I will speculate that RAM is one of the latter, probably because Apple's RAM specs have never looked great on paper.
 
BTW, I find it interesting that almost none of the reviews mention RAM at all. I think that's probably intentional, as advised by Apple. It has been reported before that Apple has guidelines for what should appear in a review and what should not appear in a review, and I will speculate that RAM is one of the latter, probably because Apple's RAM specs have never looked great on paper.

All the big Chinese review sites talk about RAM. Last year, they even had an exclusive sit down interview with Tim Cook after the event. I think it's a matter of writing style and knowing the readership.

It really all comes down to, could Geekbench and AnTuTu be so wrong about something as basic as RAM?
 
All the big Chinese review sites talk about RAM. Last year, they even had an exclusive sit down interview with Tim Cook after the event. I think it's a matter of writing style and knowing the readership.
I see that site states 4 GB.

Google Translate: "In addition, from the data of multiple running points, this year's three iPhones are equipped with 4GB of running memory."

It really all comes down to, could Geekbench and AnTuTu be so wrong about something as basic as RAM?

Yes Geekbench and Antutu both could be wrong. However, they could also be right, and so far they're the closest we have to real information.
 
this is so stupid lol. Ive never felt so close, and so far away at the same time. I wish someone would just give us a solid answer. I am certain hundreds or thousands of people in the USA already have the new phones in hand.
 
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this is so stupid lol. Ive never felt so close, and so far away at the same time. I wish someone would just give us a solid answer. I am certain hundreds or thousands of people in the USA already have the new phones in hand.

Wait for the ifixit teardown if you want definitive answers. They will probably update their site live as the teardown occurs on launch day.
 
BTW, I find it interesting that almost none of the reviews mention RAM at all. I think that's probably intentional, as advised by Apple. It has been reported before that Apple has guidelines for what should appear in a review and what should not appear in a review, and I will speculate that RAM is one of the latter, probably because Apple's RAM specs have never looked great on paper.

Thats exactly what I thought as well.

Main reasons I am still optimistoc (although seen no evidence) is that the carriers (Vodafone, etc.) listing 6 GB of RAM would open them up to alot of complains/returns/etc due to false marketing. The consumer laws in EU are far more stricter than US AFAIK.

Apps being sandboxed in iOS, I am don't know how they can reveal the max amount of memory though, so curious about the claim that apps need to be updated/authorized to do so.
 
this is so stupid lol. Ive never felt so close, and so far away at the same time. I wish someone would just give us a solid answer. I am certain hundreds or thousands of people in the USA already have the new phones in hand.
Unlikely. Generally, UPS or whatever will hang onto them until Friday.

And all they would do is run apps like Geekbench, and that would tell them 4 GB RAM. If people are claiming Geekbench and Antutu are wrong, it would be hard to prove without a teardown or else some other very specific software.


Thats exactly what I thought as well.

Main reasons I am still optimistoc (although seen no evidence) is that the carriers (Vodafone, etc.) listing 6 GB of RAM would open them up to alot of complains/returns/etc due to false marketing. The consumer laws in EU are far more stricter than US AFAIK.

Apps being sandboxed in iOS, I am don't know how they can reveal the max amount of memory though, so curious about the claim that apps need to be updated/authorized to do so.
This is ancient history, but FWIW, I got my iPad Air 2 a day before almost everyone else did, and using existing apps confirmed that it had 2 GB RAM. (Mine was one of the few that slipped through, so I got my iPad Air 2 on Thursday even though official launch day was Friday.)

Before that, no 2 GB iDevices existed.
 
Unlikely. Generally, UPS or whatever will hang onto them until Friday.

And all they would do is run apps like Geekbench, and that would tell them 4 GB RAM. If people are claiming Geekbench and Antutu are wrong, it would be hard to prove without a teardown or else some other very specific software.



This is ancient history, but FWIW, I got my iPad Air 2 a day before almost everyone else did, and using existing apps confirmed that it had 2 GB RAM. (Mine was one of the few that slipped through, so I got my iPad Air 2 on Thursday even though official launch day was Friday.)

No, I mean like VIP's have them and stuff like that.
 
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