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Long term experience with future proofing > initial out of box experience. Upgrade iOS from the version it's shipped with and all bets are off.

Lies. Last two versions of iOS actually improved performance of devices. These phones will be lightning fast for many years to come.

Then there’s the fact you actually get updates with an iPhone.
 
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Forget "iPhone", this is a full on camera. As a photographer, I'm both excited and scared with where this is going. While I might lose a lot of my traditional clients to people just taking amazing photos on their phones, like any other business, I know that I have to adapt and I can indeed take advantage of having this kind of camera in my pocket at all times.

I'm on an iPhone X and have had no reason to upgrade in the last cycle but these cameras are tempting me. I can only imagine how amazing they'll be once Apple releases the Deep Fusion update and further ahead in the years to come.

Now that they've truly embraced the hump, bigger lenses and sensors could be coming. I can't imagine them having to add any more lenses now that they've got the holy trinity of focal lengths so I expect them to dig into the sensor sizes next. The larger the sensor, the more light it can capture and the lower light you can shoot in without noise.
 
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I always wonder when these reviewers compare battery life to the older model, is it a new battery to new battery comparison? Since it's not fair if they compare a year old XS battery life to a brand new 11/pro.

They review phones every year so they are comparing it to their previous review when the phone had a brand new battery.
 
Well you lost $600.00 in 2 yrs for one thing. To me that’s a lot of money. That iPhone X will last for many many yrs of use while getting the most of your $1K. So you lost money there. I’ve had my 6s for 4 yrs still works fine. There is no way I would buy a $1k iPhone to loose $600.00 in only 2 yrs. Plus if you used that to buy a new phone your still losing money because your again paying full retail for a new iPhone.
Tech is outdated the month it’s available to purchase. Just like your car loses value the moment you drive it off the lot. That’s just how things work in the world. These are not investments, they’re tools. Someone can get more value from their tool in 2 years than you do in 4 years. Everyone’s use differs so who’s to say anyone lost money, let alone put a dollar amount on what they felt someone else lost.
 
Tech is outdated the month it’s available to purchase. Just like your car loses value the moment you drive it off the lot. That’s just how things work in the world. These are not investments, they’re tools. Someone can get more value from their tool in 2 years than you do in 4 years. Everyone’s use differs so who’s to say anyone lost money, let alone put a dollar amount on what they felt someone else lost.

Do you buy a $50 hammer yearly? Or screw driver? Or $300 office chair? Or a $2000 tv yearly?

Not really. Saying it’s a tool to justify a yearly upgrade is just trying anything to justify the purchase.
 
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How about the loss of security updates with iOS 13? (cause I don't think the 6 is supported after 12) A used 8 with a new battery might be a low cost option to keep security.

I was hoping Apple would at least provide security updates. I don't really care of OS or feature updates.
 
Forget "iPhone", this is a full on camera. As a photographer, I'm both excited and scared with where this is going. While I might lose a lot of my traditional clients to people just taking amazing photos on their phones, like any other business, I know that I have to adapt and I can indeed take advantage of having this kind of camera in my pocket at all times.

I'm on an iPhone X and have had no reason to upgrade in the last cycle but these cameras are tempting me. I can only imagine how amazing they'll be once Apple releases the Deep Fusion update and further ahead in the years to come.

Now that they've truly embraced the hump, bigger lenses and sensors could be coming. I can't imagine them having to add any more lenses now that they've got the holy trinity of focal lengths so I expect them to dig into the sensor sizes next. The larger the sensor, the more light it can capture and the lower light you can shoot in without noise.

How is 14, 26, and 52mm the holy trinity of focal lengths? This isn’t really ultra wide, normal and telephoto so much as ultra wide, wide, and normal. 52mm is effectively a “normal” 50mm lens—there isn’t really a telephoto lens on here. I’m not saying that they should add a fourth lens, then again, it is a square bump, they can find room, but I would like to see a telephoto focal lens, like something in the 85-105mm range; 52x2=104mm would fit in here very nicely.

I agree, tackling sensor size is much more important though. And yes the sensor sizes on these phones are pinky finger nail small, but I’m not sure how they can realistically fit something much bigger in there. How are they going to fit a 1” sensor (actually technically three of them) on the back of the phone? And how much bigger are the lenses going to have to become? At that size sensor each one will have to be close to the width of the whole back of the phone.

Would be nice, but you simply can’t argue with physics. Then again, they could start putting just slightly larger sensors in there, but it will still very much be a cell-phone size sensor with cell phone size ultimate picture quality — not to say that you can’t get very respectable photos out of these small sensors (hell, I posted some evening shots from my X in this very thread), but ultimately these aren’t exactly photos taken with a 1”, four-thirds, APS-C, or a Full Frame sensor.
 
Do you buy a $50 hammer yearly? Or screw driver? Or $300 office chair? Or a $2000 tv yearly?

Not really. Saying it’s a tool to justify a yearly upgrade is just trying anything to justify the purchase.
Denying a smartphone is a tool is just ignorant. Many people use their phones as a way to do their job daily. Ever answer a work email or call on your phone? Aside from that the yearly upgraders generally lease their phones and never pay full price for the device to begin with. Some jobs also give a monthly cell phone allowance as well. So there are those out there that pay almost nothing for a smartphone out of pocket and can upgrade yearly. Even still money has nothing to do with any type of computer being categorized as a tool.

Here is the definition of what a tool is
noun
  1. a device or implement, especially one held in the hand, used to carry out a particular function.
 
I will be upgrading again, as I do year after year after year.

On the phone so much, for $400 - $500 a year to upgrade (after selling old on open market) I feel it's worth it for the minimal upgrades. I just like having the latest.

It's why I have 4 receivers, three TVs and a wife that hates me. :)

To each their own
I agree. I’m straight up boujee when it comes to my phones. (And admit it) I’ll always pay for the latest and greatest. It’s my computer, phone, text, games, email, but work stuff, camera, video. We all use our phones so much. Why not splurge on something we use literally all day every day.
 
I agree. I’m straight up boujee when it comes to my phones. (And admit it) I’ll always pay for the latest and greatest. It’s my computer, phone, text, games, email, but work stuff, camera, video. We all use our phones so much. Why not splurge on something we use literally all day every day.

Same here. It costs me $60 a month to be able to get the latest phone each year. I work hard and am not in debt otherwise. I enjoy this splurge.
 
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