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iPhone 11 Pro Said to Offer 13% Faster 4G LTE Speeds Than iPhone XS
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It will probably have 5G, possibly under-display TouchID and definitely a (probably smaller) notch.
Most people buy an iPhone when they lose theirs, break it beyond repair or it becomes too slow or unsupported. The last data I saw showed users on a three to four year cycle. They don’t read tech rumors, either.
There’s probably as many people waiting to buy next year as will avoid next year, since many knowledgeable techies avoid the first year of a new technology. Some (like me) don’t want to be on the bleeding edge
Sad. I am guy shy about any technology now. Best to let others "test" new phones and such.
Exactly how do you know they are all using Intel modems? It's not stated in the specs that I could find and last year it was reported that Apple tried to get Qualcomm modems for their Verizon Xs phones. Qualcomm turned them down, but Apple did pursue it. Is it possible that once again Apple tried to use Qualcomm modems in Verizon phones
Apple and Qualcomm only settled their differences in mid-April. The dispute not only involved no chip supply, but also the tools needed to do development.
It's highly unlikely that Apple was able to design, develop (hardware and software), test and certify (internal, government, carrier), contract and procure, manufacture and ship iPhone 11s with Qualcomm chips in volume within the span of five months.
Those kinds of timelines don't exist, even for a company of Apple's size and resources. There was little reason to, and it would be a waste of resources that are needed to develop phones for next year and beyond, especially with the move to 5G.
It was well known they had to go full intel for the Xs. The X and previous- iP7 models were partly intel and Qualcomm
WiFi 6, so early in its release, concerns me. Considering the lead time required for components to build the iPhone, I wonder if the WiFi chip/firmware is even certified. The WiFi alliance says that certification should start in the third quarter of 2019. Did Apple complete this?
I guess time will tell if the early units work well, and if they can be updated with software if they don't. Apple can always silently rev the chip if it isn't performing "properly".
Anxiously awaiting the tear downs to find out what modems, antennas, memory and other parts consist of.
I think you mean 5G light poles...
Verizon, AT&T and T-Mobile are using millimeter wave 5G which means you need to be within 100-300 feet of a node... line of sight... outdoors.
It is extremely fast in the city if you're near one of the poles (outside, of course)
But you're right... this means nothing if you can't get it everywhere.
PS... Sprint is using a hybrid 4G/5G technology where they do use towers to provide greater coverage. But their speeds aren't as fast as the other carriers. And they're... well... Sprint...
I wonder if that's the plan to get 5G outside of the densely-populated city center.
* images taken from a 5G review, sponsored by Verizon
T-Mobile has stated that they plan on using mid and (I think) low band for 5G. These frequencies won't provide the high speeds that mm wave frequiencies do, but they will provide much greater coverage.
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Gotcha... thanks for the info!
I just read an article about AT&T's plan for Las Vegas, in particular.
They're putting nodes in certain high-traffic areas... such as shopping malls, arenas, and convention centers... rather than trying to blanket entire general downtown areas.
It's interesting how each carrier has a different approach to deploying this new technology. It was a lot easier when they could just pop up a tower and have a couple square miles of coverage... instead of putting a node every two blocks.
I meant how do you know that not Qualcomm modems were used for the for the 11 Pros? I'm aware the Xs were all Intel modems, but Apple had wanted to use QC modems in the Verizon Xs phones, QC declinedl
Good question. Remember that there were rumors that Apple used software to limit the speed on the QC modems to match the much lower performance Intel modems.
Since Apple settled and signed a contract with QC and Intel is out of the game -- until Apple builds new modems with the IP they bought from Intel -- they may have decided to let the QC modems run at full speed.
I wonder if Wifi 6 will end up being a competitor to 5G (in urban areas), given it (supposedly) increases both the speed and bandwidth that 802.11AC offers, while also improving efficiency. I heard that a certain cable / internet provider plans to shift away from the current pole to home coax system and go to wifi-based pole to home distribution system, which makes sense. It also then provides more options for wifi coverage within cities they serve, both for streaming services and phone / communications.
Rural areas are unfortunately always going to be the last to get up to date tech. I used to have a business in Northern Wisconsin where there were times that I didn't have any cell coverage, or just terrible 2G connectivity. But as soon as T-Mobile decided to add some towers in the region, ATT and Verizon joined in and all of a sudden there was great LTE service. In fact, cell service was faster than the service we had at the plant (cable), likely because so few people were on the cell towers at any given time. That and even the cable internet was SLOW up there. Of course, there were benefits, including being forced to slow down how you live and work.
There is not a guarantee. Intel did not have a 5G modem READY. Then they sold the division to Apple. It’s safe to assume that Apple didn’t buy it for their 4G technology.
I’m upgrading from an XS Max, I upgrade every year like most people in my circle. No one wants last years phone.
Why do people who can’t afford something always think no one else can? The fully loaded 11 is the price of a bottle at a night club. It’s not a big deal.
And actually on iUP program I am not paying interest, get my AppleCare, pay only around 55-$60 a month and after 12 months have only paid half price and flip the phone for new generation. I don’t have a grand plus sitting around but the iUP program makes this affordable to me also. So many of us are only shelling out half the price over 12 month payments seems good deal to me.
Exactly.
And if I keep the iPhone 11 Pro Max for 4 years like I did my current iPhone 6S Plus... it's even easier to justify.
I don't know why people freak out about the sticker price of a phone. You'll end up paying WAAAY more for the service anyway.
I am not familiar with WI-FI 6? It will be nice to have it but I am assuming for home use I need a new router for this? I am using my trusty Apple AirPort Extreme (and got a spare while they could be found). Have not been ready for Mesh routers in our 1200 sq ft house and having to learn new setups outside of apple products ;-) so I assume my airport will not do this. Of course also means I would need more Xfinity speed upgrade for more money per month (my only choice in our neighborhood). I get 100 mbs already on the 5ghz band of my airport so not sure if I really need to upgrade yet but I guess it will be nice in areas where Wifi 6 is running?
UPDATE: I started googling Wifi 6 and found some good links that answered my questions about needing new router. But til I can get a good speed choice without paying more for Xfinity or the fiber optic ISP finally puts lines in our neighborhood I am not going to see much even with new router it seems. Here’s the link for those interested:
https://www.cnet.com/how-to/the-iphone-11-supports-wi-fi-6-heres-why-that-matters/
And for all the technical details there is this earlier article by same as poster of the one above:
https://www.cnet.com/news/wi-fi-6-and-what-it-means-for-you-wifi-routers/
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I too was using my Airport Extreme, paired with a couple of Airport Expresses, but ended up pulling them and using the Xfinity modem/router which offered both better speed and coverage with a single device. In the past year, I switched to RCN's GB service and have an Eero mesh system (2 unit) in the house now. I can't see a reason why I would need more speed / throughput on my current wifi system, since I'm not experiencing any lag, even when I've got three computers, an iPad Pro, three iPhones and an xbox on the system at once. But times change and our needs may grow, or the needs of our devices will grow.