iPhone 11 Pro Said to Offer 13% Faster 4G LTE Speeds Than iPhone XS

[639051]

You need to use 5GHz WiFi to go past 100Mbps ... (5Ghz has nothing to do with 5G BTW, it's just WiFi).

Not true, 2.4Ghz MIMO will exceed 100Mbps easily but you need to be in an area where you can run 40Mhz channels which means you have no neighbors.

5Ghz can run 80Mhz channels and push near gigabit connections and offer the benefit of more channels and less interference since 5Ghz does not penetrate walls as well or travel as far.

 

[cocky jeremy]

Incremental until 5G implementation comes along next year and blows these speeds away.

As long as you're less than 14 inches from a tower!
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And 5000-10000% slower than 5G..

In the 50' of range that 5G is good for.

 

[joshwithachance]

They're really grasping at straws for these articles huh...?

 

[AppleHaterLover]

It must be very fast at 6AM on a Sunday in Midtown Manhattan. Everywhere else it should suck, as always.

 

[fiatlux]

On my good old iPhone 7 I routinely get 150Mbps down/44 Mbps up with good LTE signal. I doubt the figures quoted in the OP have anything to do with modem differences as this should not be the limiting factor.

Perhaps the antenna design, more likely better coverage in areas where the iPhone 11 were tested (Bay area?).

And even if, a 13% difference isn't really significant in real life.

 

[stephenc92]

Most likely they have updated the Intel® XMM™ 7560 from the XS to the new Intel® XMM™ 7660.

https://www.intel.com/content/www/u...cts/mobile-communications/xmm-7660-brief.html
https://www.intel.com/content/www/u...cts/mobile-communications/xmm-7560-brief.html

 

[sulpfiction]

Same could be said about desktops years ago: Hardware has matured, everything is a box with a screen.

But look how Mac changed under Steve. The first iMac, the second one, the third revision. It all was very different from just a ‘box with a screen’. Same was with laptops. iBook, MacBook Pro. It depends on the imagination and vision. What Samsung is doing now with folding phone is also very different from just a rectangle with a glass. The technology isn’t there yet, but they are experimenting. Hardware hasn’t matured. It will always evolve.

It will definitely evolve. But not at the pace and excitement level back in the 3GS to 4 days. And I think some people still expect that now. I’ll be the first to admit that I miss the exciting rumors and fake renders that used to float around (ie. teardrop iPhone) before the event. Things will still change design wise..Thinner, fatter, notchless, etc. sure there will be some cool new breakthrough with design at some point. But the foreseeable future we can expect a metal rectangle with glass. Phones are harder and harder to distinguish between because they are all starting to look the same. But that’s what it is right now. A nice foldable phone that doesn’t look like crap is still at least 3-5 years off.

 

[aFlockaCgulz]

Don’t forget she’s a heavier chunkier girl.

Those girls need love too.
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And 5000-10000% slower than 5G..

Irrelevant until 5G has reached the majority of areas in the US.

I don’t care if 5G is a million times faster than 4G if there are no 5G towers anywhere around me.

 

[supazeezun]

not buying any premium phone without 5G and USB-C. apple can **** off

 

[Mactendo]

It will definitely evolve. But not at the pace and excitement level back in the 3GS to 4 days. And I think some people still expect that now. I’ll be the first to admit that I miss the exciting rumors and fake renders that used to float around (ie. teardrop iPhone) before the event. Things will still change design wise..Thinner, fatter, notchless, etc. sure there will be some cool new breakthrough with design at some point. But the foreseeable future we can expect a metal rectangle with glass. Phones are harder and harder to distinguish between because they are all starting to look the same. But that’s what it is right now. A nice foldable phone that doesn’t look like crap is still at least 3-5 years off.

I remember the teardrop iPhone
I think what’s changed most are people expectations. They are ‘matured’. It’s harder to surprise people. 3GS and 4 were not that much different. But back then at the beginning of that story any new feature or change was exciting. Today even cool features go unnoticed. For example, yesterday they did show how a phone can record video from 2 or 3 cameras at the same time. Even smoothly zooming from one to another. Even recording from the back and front facing one at the same time. Isn’t that cool? It’s cool as hell. If it was shown in the iPhone 4 keynote people would gone mad. But today it’s not even ‘yawn’. It went unnoticed. News sites are talking about colors, camera bumps, speed increase, etc. but not about something what really changes the game.

 

[terryreid62]

During its media event on Tuesday, Apple revealed that the new iPhone 11 Pro and iPhone 11 Pro Max feature faster gigabit-class 4G LTE, but the company didn't provide any further details. However, an internet speed testing service claims to have the numbers.

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According to Speedsmart.net, the iPhone 11 Pro and Pro Max offer approximately 13 percent faster 4G LTE than Apple's previous generation iPhone XS series.

The results were taken over all of the major US cellular networks, and while there's little between the carriers in terms of fastest speed, T-Mobile and Verizon appear to edge it.

Given that the new iPhones aren't yet available, it's not entirely clear how the data was collected "from August 9," although the results are said to have been taken with the SpeedSmart Speed Test App.

Regardless, further tests are inevitable once the new devices get into the hands of reviewers on September 20, by which time we'll know for sure if these results in any way reflect real-world usage.

Article Link: iPhone 11 Pro Said to Offer 13% Faster 4G LTE Speeds Than iPhone XS

[doublepost=1568211837][/doublepost]Does anybody realize that speed increases of 13% or even 30% are not even noticeable. If you are not doubling the speed it is nothing more than marketing hype and sadly the public falls for it. I am upgrading but not for 30% faster Face ID but for the better battery life, camera and better angle of Face ID and stronger glass. I am on the rental program so it does not cost me anything to upgrade also.

 

[lah]

I'm not expecting 5G to get widely adopted anytime soon. I've noticed a lot of NIMBY pushback in the States and now that I'm in Europe I hear the same type of chatter. The iPhone will be fine with 4G for another cycle or two. And as others have stated, LTE is pretty damn fast. I'm getting 100Mbps speeds constantly here in France.

 

[realtuner]

5G is all marketing as far as smartphone users go. By the time it achieves all the “promises” the carriers are promoting they’ll be telling us about 6G.

Look at the pathetic results from the chart. They haven’t even been able to get 4G LTE speeds anywhere near to what it’s capable of, and people think 5G is going to be any different?

 

[mofoliar]

I wonder if this thanks to Intel modem or QC one?!
And i hope the signal to be better and more reliable...because an 15% increase at peek of it is not the real deal

If it is Intel, I will pass til QC comes back into iPhones!

 

[realtuner]

I don’t care if 5G is a million times faster than 4G if there are no 5G towers anywhere around me.

More like:

I don’t care if 5G is a million times faster if the limiting factor is still the server at the other end.

5G only updates “the last mile”. It doesn’t reduce the latency or improve speeds of the entire network or the servers tasked with delivering content.

 

[orthorim]

Not true, 2.4Ghz MIMO will exceed 100Mbps easily but you need to be in an area where you can run 40Mhz channels which means you have no neighbors.

5Ghz can run 80Mhz channels and push near gigabit connections and offer the benefit of more channels and less interference since 5Ghz does not penetrate walls as well or travel as far.

I don't know about that - wasn't my experience. We had a new-ish gaming router with a ton of antennas on it in the house, and I was right next to it, still topped out at 100Mbps. There's a big difference in theoretical speed vs actual in WiFi. Since I'm only interested in actual, I am speed-testing the line all the time.

There were a few neighbors around and yes maybe there's a setting somewhere to improve 2.4Ghz - I don't know.

All I know is 5Ghz worked fine and this is the first time I noticed a difference between the two.

 

[Michael Scrip]

Irrelevant until 5G has reached the majority of areas in the US.

I don’t care if 5G is a million times faster than 4G if there are no 5G towers anywhere around me.

I think you mean 5G light poles...

Verizon, AT&T and T-Mobile are using millimeter wave 5G which means you need to be within 100-300 feet of a node... line of sight... outdoors.

It is extremely fast in the city if you're near one of the poles (outside, of course)

But you're right... this means nothing if you can't get it everywhere.

PS... Sprint is using a hybrid 4G/5G technology where they do use towers to provide greater coverage. But their speeds aren't as fast as the other carriers. And they're... well... Sprint...

I wonder if that's the plan to get 5G outside of the densely-populated city center.

* images taken from a 5G review, sponsored by Verizon

 

[definitive]

will any of that matter if you're in a poor signal area? probably not. ex: when i'm outside of my home, i get around 25mbits/sec from my carrier. when i'm indoors, i can't get more than 1.5 because of thick walls. this hasn't changed with any of the iphones i've owned over the years.

 

[Wags]

5G is all marketing as far as smartphone users go. By the time it achieves all the “promises” the carriers are promoting they’ll be telling us about 6G.

Look at the pathetic results from the chart. They haven’t even been able to get 4G LTE speeds anywhere near to what it’s capable of, and people think 5G is going to be any different?

Also, the carriers are acting like they want to charge more for 5G. Trying to come up with reason to charge more and set the market price high.

 

[639051]

I don't know about that - wasn't my experience. We had a new-ish gaming router with a ton of antennas on it in the house, and I was right next to it, still topped out at 100Mbps. There's a big difference in theoretical speed vs actual in WiFi. Since I'm only interested in actual, I am speed-testing the line all the time.

There were a few neighbors around and yes maybe there's a setting somewhere to improve 2.4Ghz - I don't know.

All I know is 5Ghz worked fine and this is the first time I noticed a difference between the two.

The router is not the only piece that matters, your client has to support MIMO for the 2.4Ghz band.

I have multiple devices in my lab here that easily obtain more than 100Mbps on 2.4Ghz, this is the kind of work I do for a living.

Edit: The 2.4Ghz spectrum can achieve "600Mbps" with the correct settings and hardware on each end. Obviously the real throughput will not be close to this but it is well over 100Mbps.

If you have interference on the three non overlapping 20Mhz channels, you likely won't see these speeds. If you are like me and live in the middle of nowhere and can use 40Mhz channels it's even easier.

 

[Just sayin...]

I’ll likely upgrade from my XS Max for the camera improvements - and pass it down to my son. Since giving up my photography hobby (along with cameras, lenses, tripod, flash, etc.), I’ve allowed myself to upgrade phones more frequently in order to get better “good enough” shots out of my phone.

 

[Prof.]

Not as nice of boost as 5G that’s rolling out everywhere but Apple

5G is still a cluster of cells in the womb of the major carriers, and it is faaaaaaaaarrrrrrr from perfect. You need to have line of sight of the 5G node to experience the improved speeds. Once you turn a corner, walk into a building, or it begins to rain, you will immediately notice a drop in speed and your phone will end up reverting back to 4G LTE. Apple are smart to wait. 5G is NOT ready for mainstream.

 

[PastaPrimav]

15% faster than what? Than the previous maximum speed? Great. That does nothing for anyone, since no one anywhere is getting maximum speeds on the previous device either.

I live in a heavily populated area, and would love to see more than 1 bar of LTE anywhere in the neighborhood. But no, 5G is what we need right? Because that will solve the problem of most of the U.S. having bad cellular coverage. Good grief.
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Not as nice of boost as 5G that’s rolling out everywhere but Apple

Oh dear. I don't think I've seen this word used more incorrectly, or ever will again.

 

[citysnaps]

I think the 11 pro is gonna be a beautiful phone. 13% faster LTE speeds is definitely a nice boost. Don’t know why people are so upset with it. Apple continues to produce the nicest phones on the market. We’re way past the days of big excitement leading up to announcement day to see what cool design apple came up with. Hardware has matured. Everything is a rectangle with glass. Now it’s camera, features, and subscriptions. Except for the notch. But I’m very happy with what the 11pro has to offer. I’m on the upgrade program so I’ll be getting it. And I’m pretty excited.

Same here. It also has built-in UWB support which I plan on using. And a much better camera which also interests me as a photographer.

Every keynote/release story on MR is now greeted with a race to the bottom on how everyone is so bored accompanied with a big eye roll with Apple's announcements. I had no idea so many were still in high school. Adorable.

 

[mikayla82ca]

I think the 11 pro is gonna be a beautiful phone. 13% faster LTE speeds is definitely a nice boost. Don’t know why people are so upset with it. Apple continues to produce the nicest phones on the market. We’re way past the days of big excitement leading up to announcement day to see what cool design apple came up with. Hardware has matured. Everything is a rectangle with glass. Now it’s camera, features, and subscriptions. Except for the notch. But I’m very happy with what the 11pro has to offer. I’m on the upgrade program so I’ll be getting it. And I’m pretty excited.

Serious question here... are you high? The nicest phones on the market? How did you arrive at this conclusion? Purely from a looks perspective there are many other phones so much better looking. Why in 2019 do we still have bezels? Other companies have found ways around this and some are beautifully executed. Don't get me wrong, I own an iPhone. I have for years. I was the first in line when they came out, and I've owned almost every iteration of it... but to call them the nicest phones on the market... no. Just no. I'm not going to follow with blind loyalty. It's a good phone that could be so much better. The 11 pro is a stop-gap crash grab before the inclusion of 5G and a USB C port. People will blindly follow and purchase it. This is fanaticism at it's best. Save your money and wait for the S. Take that 1k and go on a trip or something.