Interesting. Luckily my 11 (77%) isn't being throttled - as far as I can tell.The iPhone 12 is weird and seems to be able to start throttling somewhere between 80% and 90%. I definitely notice it and other 12 users reported getting the battery changed restored full speed. Getting Apple to replace a battery over 80% is not an easy task so I'm stuck with it for now. The 12 was always known to have poor battery life.
I figure an 11 with 78% could experience the same.
paid 750€ for a 15 Pro, used but in very good condition. Price down from 1.149€ Apple retail here in Germany. Would have liked to wait some more but couldn't as my 11 Pro broke downBrought my daughter a refurbished iPhone 11 64gb about 18 to 24 months ago and it’s starting to struggle with video calls, WhatsApp which is frustrating for her.
Would an iPhone 13 Pro be worth it nowdays or am I better of stretching to get her an iPhone 14 Pro?
Both will be a nice upgrade for her but want to try and avoid hitting the same problems in 12 to 18 months.
Part of me would like to wait to see how much the iPhone 15 Pro comes down by, but the price difference is not that great between a refurbished one of these and a brand new one.
From the UK btw.
I've used my 11 Pro without a case and can confirm, it does get very hot with certain use patterns, including video calling, It does get uncomfortably warm and even dims the display way down. Don't know why you think only cases can heat up phones when video calling.It should not be overheating unless it is in a poorly designed case?
Dave
I think OP mentioned they'd like not to spend too much on an iPhone, and I don't think itd be the right message for a 11 year old to be like your phone is getting hot when you're using it (excessively), have the newest one! The upgrade from the 11 to the 13 Pro would be more than enough for someone that doesn't actually need more then the 11 for anything but video calling.I would check the battery health in settings. If it’s being used inside in AC, it shouldn’t overheat. I’ve heard people say using an iPhone while charging can cause it to overheat under certain conditions. Also using it outside in direct sunlight.
I don’t make a lot of video calls so I can’t really say I’ve tried to see how it works on my 14 Pro Max.
Maybe she just wants a new phone and that’s perfectly fine I guess. People like the latest and greatest and if you can afford it then why not.
if any phone would struggle, any phone would suffice, no? then its not about the phone but the user, and with 11 that sounds like waay to much usage and dependancy. I don't know if you're already using this, but if not put the screen time widget on your Home Screen for your daughter and check it periodically. Maybe that alone will curb her usage, otherwise it might give you insight you didn't have previously. Albeit I have a feeling you're doing that already.Will have a think on this, with how my daughter uses her phone, this would happen on any device she has.
if any phone would struggle, any phone would suffice, no? then its not about the phone but the user, and with 11 that sounds like waay to much usage and dependancy. I don't know if you're already using this, but if not put the screen time widget on your Home Screen for your daughter and check it periodically. Maybe that alone will curb her usage, otherwise it might give you insight you didn't have previously. Albeit I have a feeling you're doing that already.
So trying to raise others kids is ok as long as they have “right” opinion?
Even adults don’t know how to use their devices. We have social issues from people spending their lives in these devices. So no 11 years old does not know and as she gets to teenager years it will only become worse if there’s no boundaries.
Then stop giving advices on parenting.But OP is asking basically what’s better 13 pro or 14 pro for more longevity and future proof, I guessed should skip the part about 11 yrs old and focus on technical advice
If she's like my 12 year old daughter.... I get an eye roll and a look that screams "Ok, boomer". LOLThat’s a very valid point, my daughter never ever lets it charge fully so it’s always charging and on video calls, however telling my daughter to let it charge 100% before using It, Is a challenge in itself!
And absolutely nothing to do with me getting a 16 PM lol…. *cough*
I get eye rolls when telling my daughter the latest amazing dad jokes, aside from that I am ok so far but that won’t last forever!If she's like my 12 year old daughter.... I get an eye roll and a look that screams "Ok, boomer". LOL
I was trying to avoid that aspect of the situation. Younger people (under 30) are pretty much attached to their screen. I’m not sure if it’s going to make much difference if it’s an older device although in this situation overheating might induce required breaks 😂I think OP mentioned they'd like not to spend too much on an iPhone, and I don't think itd be the right message for a 11 year old to be like your phone is getting hot when you're using it (excessively), have the newest one! The upgrade from the 11 to the 13 Pro would be more than enough for someone that doesn't actually need more then the 11 for anything but video calling.
Then stop giving advices on parenting.
iPhone SE4 early next year sounds like the one to get if you can wait, degraded battery is an issue (especially if it expands) but if it can be nursed through that would be an amazing upgrade If in budget.Got my daughter’s iPhone locked down already like you said, more downtime than up-time.
Max of up to 2 hours a day and anything else she has to request it.
Usage wise, even though my daughter is on it for about an hour or two each day, the constant video calls, gaming at the same time, and being plugged in is killing the battery.
Told her last night she can get a new phone but only when she gets into the habit of letting it fully charge first before use, something I know won’t happen anytime soon and until then she is stuck with the iPhone 11.
Bit off topic, but I don’t want people thinking I let me daughter use her phone 24/7!
iPhone SE4 early next year sounds like the one to get if you can wait, degraded battery is an issue (especially if it expands) but if it can be nursed through that would be an amazing upgrade If in budget.
im on the fence with getting a new battery for it, especially at Apple prices. could a power bank work If you can hold off? I’m waiting for an SE4 myself from an 11 which has a slightly better battery and is slowing up a bit Occasionally.
fully charging isn’t actually great news for a phone, the latest phones have settings to charge up to 80% which is far better for battery longevity but in an aged and degraded battery that ship has sailed.
My daughter is crazy about planes too, 24/7 researching them, tracking flights, plane spotting!I haven’t. I wrote only 11yrs old can use tech like the general observation about teenagers generation. Almost every teens I know are very capable of knowing their devices. E.g. my 12y nephew is so into planes and flights that he’s the one buying air tickets, searching cheap flights and even organizing family trip from tech side.
My daughter is crazy about planes too, 24/7 researching them, tracking flights, plane spotting!
So much parenting advice. I had people absolutely losing their minds when I said I got my 12 year old an iPhone 15 earlier this year. Kids deserve nice things too 🤷🏻♀️ I wanted mine to have a high quality device and I’ve only had iPhones since the first one in 2007, so I know they’re solid. I wasn’t about to get her an iPhone 8 or a chintzy android stuck with a micro usb port just because she’s a kid. AppleCare + theft and loss and a case, no problems at all. My kid is very social and I’m happy to give her a way to talk to her friends.I’d go with 14 pro best color deep purple, beautiful and power house. Should be good for her for minimum 3y. Don’t listen to anyone else trying to raise others ppl kids.
It’s tech forum not parenting one. 11 yrs is big enough to well know how to use recent tech
I would start with a new battery.Checked my daughters phone quickly, battery health is 78%, warning saying its degraded.