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So basically you can ignore MagSafe and 5G... for an 11 Pro Max user, I get a lighter phone, very minimal camera upgrade and a much improved form factor by going to the 12 Pro. Not sure that is compelling. The 12 seems cool as you also get a much lighter phone. Honestly I need to see both the Max and Mini in order to make a true assessment. The 12 Pro Max, with the square edges, could be an easier phone to hold now
 
I’ve just seen that UK versions of the 12 and 12 Pro have the standard markings moved from the back to the sides . I thought they’d just been removed but I suppose they can’t get rid of them completely.

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Not to be a buzz kill for those excited. But from what I am getting from some reviews the camera on the 12 and 12 pro aren't much better than the 11 pro max (bummer). I am interested to hear the differences between the 11 pro max and 12 pro max cameras.
 
Good to know that we’ll be able to turn off 5G and run on LTE only.

I don’t care about 5G as I am more than satisfied with LTE speed already and I’d like to squeeze as much battery life as possible.

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Not to be a buzz kill for those excited. But from what I am getting from some reviews the camera on the 12 and 12 pro aren't much better than the 11 pro max (bummer). I am interested to hear the differences between the 11 pro max and 12 pro max cameras.
It won’t kill my excitement as I never owned an 11 Pro Max and I know from here that that phone has an awesome camera anyway :)
 
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Gruber’s is good

 
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