Oh I am sure they will release a 2m MagSafe for something like $20 dollars more and people will buy it like hotcakes. This whole MagSafe is gimmicky to me but my goodness is it going to rake in some serious $$$ for Apple. On top of that these magnets probably cost almost next to nothing. I personally only have to charge my phone overnight so could care less if I am charging at 5w or 7.5w as long as its full by morning.
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iPhone 12 MagSafe inconveniences
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Oh I am sure they will release a 2m MagSafe for something like $20 dollars more and people will buy it like hotcakes. This whole MagSafe is gimmicky to me but my goodness is it going to rake in some serious $$$ for Apple. On top of that these magnets probably cost almost next to nothing. I personally only have to charge my phone overnight so could care less if I am charging at 5w or 7.5w as long as its full by morning.
I'm not deliberately trying to catch Apple at anything here, but the point is that they had a chance to show it off a bit at the presentation, but deliberately did not. You can see the Apple-sold MagSafe charger now. There's no way that's going to be a one-handed operation on a desk or nightstand. Right now we're all like "Ooh magnets!" but then realize it's more annoying than useful.
So just looking at the comparisons here and the few experiences that are presented -- yes, it's a concern.
As a responder said, it could be non-standardized and determined by how many magnets are actually in the 3rd party devices, and that makes some sense. But still, there's no way this ends up being convenient except in some fringe cases. Like I said, it's a real goldilocks problem, and Apple isn't known for nailing this kind of thing...
I suspect that's why the Apple magsafe duo charger isn't out yet, because the experience of using it would be substandard as a day-to-day device, perhaps good only as a travel kit, which I do appreciate, but as a desk/nightstand/countertop device, no way.
Qi charging is pitched in and of itself as "effortless, safe, reliable, easy" but Apple just pitches it as "easy to connect." Uh huh... try disconnecting it.
Don't use it then. It does not come in the box and it is not necessary at all. Actually, both the old and the new USB-C lightning chargers are faster than MagSafe. You people see inconvenience where others see just options. I have a Qi mat right now and it is annoying to me to have to align the phone every night, but that is the way it is and I can spare those 2 seconds of my life everynight. I'll see what MagSafe is all about and if I like it, I'll buy it. If not, I won't. Last year you did not have the option at all, so what is the problem if they added one more option for users to choose?
Yep. TBH I’d have bought magsafe if it was just a 5/7.5w charger (I think my Nokia Qi charger is 5w) because thats plenty for overnight charging. The (hopeful) ease of just dropping it on the charger without thinking and fiddling to see if the light comes on properly is a convenience worth upgrading for me. My Qi charger is already stuck to the table with blutac so I’ll do the same with the magsafe for easy one handed removal.
It’s a technical debate mate.
Don’t be too annoyed.
Everyone is well within their right to take up the MagSafe.
Have a good day.
This is also generally how products improve and evolve if producers listen and take positive criticism.
We start by having users settle for double sided tape to stick to the table and by the next iteration we might have something that will have taken note of that inconvenience.
We start by having users settle for double sided tape to stick to the table and by the next iteration we might have something that will have taken note of that inconvenience.
It's a fair criticism. In other threads however it's rumored that Apple wants to remove lightning, so I would counter your point with an early critical review of what I perceive as negative elements of Apple's "embrace and extend" to Qi.
You see 2 seconds of alignment saved every time you go to sleep.
I see 2 seconds of removing the puck every time you wake up where it was simply grab-n-go.
I like options so on that point I do totally agree.
You're right. It's not that hard to figure out, and I already responded to that. Bear in mind that Apple doesn't disclose this information, nor have you or I seen any guidance on magnet strengths. So we're all speculating. I continue to state that people may have unrealistic expectations on how this works based upon their knowledge of Qi. There are people who agree and those who disagree. If you expect this to be just better than Qi, or an improvement on Qi because it has magnets, we can potentially be disappointed. We all -- even you -- know how magnets work, but they don't always improve upon technology.
It's not useless speculation when this is effectively a "caveat emptor" post -- Apple has not fully disclosed all MagSafe iphone accessory data and we as buyers must discover with our wallets. If you don't need it, then move on.
I already stick my charger to the table so it doesn’t slide around. I’ll do the same with my MagSafe. Still grab and go
it does seem like they will stick quite firmly at least with the cases that have already been shown attached to the charger.
I'm not deliberately trying to catch Apple at anything here, but the point is that they had a chance to show it off a bit at the presentation, but deliberately did not. You can see the Apple-sold MagSafe charger now. There's no way that's going to be a one-handed operation on a desk or nightstand. Right now we're all like "Ooh magnets!" but then realize it's more annoying than useful.
So just looking at the comparisons here and the few experiences that are presented -- yes, it's a concern.
As a responder said, it could be non-standardized and determined by how many magnets are actually in the 3rd party devices, and that makes some sense. But still, there's no way this ends up being convenient except in some fringe cases. Like I said, it's a real goldilocks problem, and Apple isn't known for nailing this kind of thing...
I suspect that's why the Apple magsafe duo charger isn't out yet, because the experience of using it would be substandard as a day-to-day device, perhaps good only as a travel kit, which I do appreciate, but as a desk/nightstand/countertop device, no way.
Qi charging is pitched in and of itself as "effortless, safe, reliable, easy" but Apple just pitches it as "easy to connect." Uh huh... try disconnecting it.
I think its actually a simple operation. With one hand you grab the phone... With your fingers while wrapping around the phone you physically push the charger to the side disconnecting it in one motion.
I just tested the theory on my standard charging puck with my hand. Though it was not connected via magnet, I was able to move the puck from under it while lifting the phone.
Crisis avoided?
I'm definitely in the minority here, but the 1m cable actually has a good place in my lineup because I'm constantly traveling. It's easier to throw in a pocket or small bag on the go.
That said, I also want a longer cable eventually. I wasn't going to buy it initially, but I'll probably go with the Apple one now, and a longer aftermarket one later.
That said, I also want a longer cable eventually. I wasn't going to buy it initially, but I'll probably go with the Apple one now, and a longer aftermarket one later.
Always possible but seems unlikely considering there are literally hundreds of millions of vehicles on the road worldwide with no wireless charging capability and no practical solution to incorporating it.
Or are you suggesting it will be TB3/USB-C? In which case ignore my initial statement 🙃
Agree on the puck and wallet (not getting either) but MagSafe has huge potential for mounting iPhones on cars magnetically much more conveniently and without the need for metal plates, etc - that is not a gimmick, although it is pending the right product to take advantage of it (which is definitely not the Belkin, but the ESR looks promising)
Would you think it is feasible to have a car mount that has NO extra mounting and attachment security and only rely on just the iPhone magnet ....without falling off when you drive and hit those bumpy road surfaces?
Hard to know, but that would be the idea/hope. I haven’t my received my ESR HaloLock yet so can’t share first hand experience yet but there’s some promising signs from DIYers out there:
Ok done.
This is ending up pretty much as I suspected. The wallet isn't strong enough or practical enough to be useful, and the strength of the magnets is questionable at best.
Look at the video on this site reviewing the wallet. It's a wallet for pete's sake. Something important. And it can easily fall off the phone and to the floor when you put your phone in your pocket? I'm sorry... really really sorry here, but are defenders going to say "you're pocketing it wrong" ?
Slightly related - I recently got excited when I discovered that my local Fred Meyer (a Kroger store) implemented "Kroger Pay". Feeling optimistic I gave it a try. Turns out it's a QR scanning thing within an app on a device that does provide a contactless payment process, but it's so painful to actually use within the app that it lends itself to a horrible experience -- nothing at all like a double click of your watch/phone and have Apple Pay show up with a card.
My point is that if I have to worry about how I put my phone+wallet in and out of my pocket on a constant basis, I'll just use a separate wallet. Who doesn't constantly manipulate their phone? Apple has blown the usability goal in the effort to just have a "ooh neat" gadget addon to a device. And again, all so they can sell it as a 15w charger instead of 7.5. It doesn't provide any great amount of practical usability.
And consider that none of the mount+magnet vendors have released their products, which I find extremely telling. The Belkin 3-in-1 one might work as it's stationary and designed for a desk, but those car mounts... ugh. I saw the video above and honestly I don't see the "super strong" aspect. It came off easily in the hand. There's only so much strength the metal can provide.
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It’s hard to believe all the debating on the MagSafe, before I bought mine i thought it was just another wireless charger. Once I impulsively purchased one because they were in stock at a store i was visiting, it’s a great setup and now my preferred method of charging.
Also the wallet is 10/10, I had very low expectations and was blown away at the convenience (just replaced my older thin profile wallet).
Also the wallet is 10/10, I had very low expectations and was blown away at the convenience (just replaced my older thin profile wallet).
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The iPhone 12 has a traditional lightning port, you are free to use it just like you have since 2010.
MagSafe is an optional feature. You can take advantage of it if you like or ignore it if you like. iPhone has a step counter, a compass, and something that can measure the distance between corners on a table. I don't use those either.
MagSafe is an optional feature. You can take advantage of it if you like or ignore it if you like. iPhone has a step counter, a compass, and something that can measure the distance between corners on a table. I don't use those either.
