iPhone 12 Passes 100 Million Sales in First Super-Cycle Since iPhone 6
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The Game 161
macrumors Nehalem
For many they are in the ecosystem and see no reason to leaveā¦android has some amazing phones but might not seem as polished. Feature wise itās great but itās also user experience
gotluck
macrumors 603
qualcomm modem is a big deal for me over the intel, 5G aside - Im not seeing advantages to 5G in my area either.The iPhone 11 matched it and is still the best iPhone on the market. 5G is a lot of smoke and mirrors for daily practical use.
Detonation
macrumors regular
Turned off 5G shortly after I got the 12 and haven't looked back. Often times worse than LTE in my area. Definitely not worth the battery hit.
Now what's ridiculous is that on my Verizon S21, you can't turn off 5G without downloading a special app, and it resets on every reboot. I got nothing against 5G but don't force it on us when it's not as good yet.
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Detonation
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There are fewer and fewer flagship Android options now a days, at least in the US. You've got Samsung, Google, and maybe One Plus. And each has their compromises. I was a long time Android user that tried the iPhone every couple years but always went back. Grabbed the iPhone 12 Pro this year and ended up sticking with it.
This is a two year old article but more true than ever: https://www.droid-life.com/2019/07/23/android-oem-options/
Agree. I think the carriers were hurting trying to get people to upgrade (with Covid and all) so those deals made lots of people upgrade (since it was cheaper if not free) when otherwise they would not have upgraded.
Apple_Robert
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I had to read the article twice because I thought I had missed the mini jab. lol
It depends whether Apple continues to sell the 12, which I suspect they wonāt.
urnotl33t
macrumors 6502a
Yep. Same here. Flat back, too! No stupid wobble on the table.
Apple knows this. Look at their promo images when an iPhone is included. Like the iMac ones. The iPhone is turned FACE DOWN! Gah. They must not have any OCD design people anymore.
Macaholic868
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I canāt help but laugh at all the iPhone 12 reviews where 5G support was being written off as no better than LTE and not a reason to upgrade unless you cared about taking better low light photos.
I upgraded from the iPhone 10 specifically for 5G support and the sweat heart deal AT&T offered on a 12 upgrade with a trade in. Iāve used AT&T since switching from Verizon in 2007 to buy the original iPhone so that deal was a no brainer. They basically gave the iPhone 12 away if you agreed to rebates paid on a monthly basis in credits over the course of two years. I went with the Pro for the better camera but even that will only wind up costing around $200 in total given the rebates.
Verizon and others had sweetheart deals as well trying to shore up their 5G customer base. 5G was completely and totally worth it. I had terrible WiFi at my home at the time (10 MB down, 5 MB up ā¦. long story as to why) so being able to turn on a 5G hotspot was a god send and I still use the hotspot frequently for work when Iām out and about.
I knew when I read those āmehā reviews that the authors didnāt have a clue what they were talking about. 5G was about a lot more than marketing hype for a large number of people and these sales figures prove it. The camera canāt be written off either if you need to take low light photos. It was such a huge upgrade from the X I couldnāt believe it when I snapped my first few outdoor photographs during the evening. Maybe if you had an 11 or the XR it wasnāt worth it but for anybody on the X or below it was a huge upgrade and there were a ton of people on the X or below when it shipped.
I upgraded from the iPhone 10 specifically for 5G support and the sweat heart deal AT&T offered on a 12 upgrade with a trade in. Iāve used AT&T since switching from Verizon in 2007 to buy the original iPhone so that deal was a no brainer. They basically gave the iPhone 12 away if you agreed to rebates paid on a monthly basis in credits over the course of two years. I went with the Pro for the better camera but even that will only wind up costing around $200 in total given the rebates.
Verizon and others had sweetheart deals as well trying to shore up their 5G customer base. 5G was completely and totally worth it. I had terrible WiFi at my home at the time (10 MB down, 5 MB up ā¦. long story as to why) so being able to turn on a 5G hotspot was a god send and I still use the hotspot frequently for work when Iām out and about.
I knew when I read those āmehā reviews that the authors didnāt have a clue what they were talking about. 5G was about a lot more than marketing hype for a large number of people and these sales figures prove it. The camera canāt be written off either if you need to take low light photos. It was such a huge upgrade from the X I couldnāt believe it when I snapped my first few outdoor photographs during the evening. Maybe if you had an 11 or the XR it wasnāt worth it but for anybody on the X or below it was a huge upgrade and there were a ton of people on the X or below when it shipped.
madebybela
macrumors 6502
I dont think anyone cared much for 5G or OLED, the most enticing element was probably the first new design/aesthetic change since the iPhone 6 lol
Except in specific markets where it is in the ballpark of 50/50, Android is still the market leader by a lot. But both companies and platforms are healthy and both must still look over each other's shoulders to make a better product. User growth is a requirement for business. They all will look to make improvements when cost/market viability is expected to further user/customer growth.
Apple isn't the only one that is seeing excellent sales. The iPhone super cycle(which is not a fact, only a claim) would largely be expected by Apple. Companies are generally aware of the metrics of how many customers they retain, how often customer sub groups exchange for a new model, a good estimate on how many will spend X for a phone while others only will spend y, how much growth to expect in the market....etc etc. Big companies pend a lot on staff to figure out these metrics.
I don't think some of the Android choices are of poor quality. Because the Android hardware space also competes within itself, that may cause peculiar(to iPhone users) deviations in product. But at the end of the day if an Android user wants a good phone and they are willing to spend some cash to get it, they are there (the Android platform itself lacking better privacy protection not withstanding).
Shanghaichica
macrumors G5
I agree as an overall package Apple are difficult to beat. When people consider their next phone, they donāt only think of their phone. They think of all their other devices and how a new phone will got into that set up.
Glideslope
macrumors G3
Please clarify. Sharknado 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, or 6? š
hotstreaks
macrumors member
ā¢iphone 12 mini will become the new iphone SE
ā¢iphone 12 regular will become the new iphone air
ā¢iphone 12 regular will become the new iphone air
MacBH928
macrumors G3
I use iOS the same reason I use MacOS , the user experience and software on the other side is horrid.
FrozenInferno
macrumors 6502
I didnāt care one bit about 5G, but OLED was a must-have. Apple has shipped great LCDs but after using an OLED Samsung for a couple of years there was no going back. If Apple hadnāt gone OLED across the whole line Iād probably still be using that phone as I donāt care for, nor want to spend up for, the huge Pro level models. The 6.1ā regular 12 with OLED is my perfect phone.
The flat edge design was a bonus though. I do much prefer it over that slippery rounded edge design.
DinkThifferent
macrumors 6502a
Sharknado 6S
Glideslope
macrumors G3
Well played. š
ericwn
macrumors G5
Not to worry, three or four people will battle that topic out in the comments in no time.
ericwn
macrumors G5
On the other hand there was probably a ton of people who fared really bad financially but still those devices were sold - in a time where mobility isnāt necessarily the top priority for many.
I7guy
macrumors Westmere
This post reminds me of the joke; Two old ladies walk into a crowded restaurant. One says the food is awful. The other says, yeah and such small portions.
DeepIn2U
macrumors G5
Yep the iPhone 12s really that good!
If we were to consider just the hardware specs in the hardware on android youāll find a lot better options out there however too often The average user will go for android because a cheaper options out there especially on contracts or itās just water familiar with somebody wants price and you can do anything however the realization is when you actually use the device overall length of time slow down issues and performance if you donāt reboot often enough thatās the problem on the top and devices no matter what you read or hear from somebody else to run a bunch of applications have been running for a while never reboot your phone every 4 to 6 months you will see performance degredation. Overall itās in how you use your phone and if you donāt want to think about limits or think about the whole performance of the system as youāre using it over and over overtime like you do with your computer thatās the real kicker and the difference of defied some users choices in iPhone or android.