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Can you please do the test on your Max for all of us? And of course only at 50% brightness or so? Not at 100% pls!
yeah, and I am only talking about, what I have noticed..... but it is definitely noticeable!! the colors are just more pleasant on the MAX anyone else seeing this??
 
I have no problem with the brightness on my new 12 Pro. I did notice that my existing photos looked better on the 12P than on my X, could be imagination, but I don't care. Gold finish is gorgeous and matches my gold watch perfectly. You guy can fight over this, but I am happy with the 12P.
 
yeah, and I am only talking about, what I have noticed..... but it is definitely noticeable!! the colors are just more pleasant on the MAX anyone else seeing this??
I meant the test I was talking about.

Test to be done under below lighting conditions:

Artificial/Tube/LED light/Dark room/Not too much sunlight - (Indoors)

Autobrightness should be on/shouldn’t be turned off

Set brightness level manually to around 50%

Open Safari Google.com white background

Observe for 5-10 seconds

Turn off auto brightness

Again open same page on Safari Google.com

Wait 15-30 seconds

If brightness level increases a lot, ALS is defective. If brightness level stays same, phone is perfect.

Don’t do test at 100/0% brightness. Only middle level brightness. Don’t do test outside.

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I have no problem with the brightness on my new 12 Pro. I did notice that my existing photos looked better on the 12P than on my X, could be imagination, but I don't care. Gold finish is gorgeous and matches my gold watch perfectly. You guy can fight over this, but I am happy with the 12P.
The 11 Pro is much brighter/better than some of my X units. Then again the first X unit I had was actually even better than my 11 Pro although the 11 Pro is much brighter.

Assuming you get an average X vs average 11/12 Pro, I am sure the 11/12 Pro would be a much better display, with 12 Pro being a bit better than even 11 Pro I guess.

But to a good extent it is the display lottery too.
 
Thanks. However, after reading more into this, I believe that this behavior is normal and that you are fighting wind mills. I'll still compare with some friends phones and gladly admit that I'm wrong if that's the case.
 
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Okay I tested it.
Dark room.

AB off put my brightness higher about 20% more than AB OFF in all levels of brightness (in 20% percent is less noticable than on 50% of course) in dark room.

If I turn in room my lights on - nothing changed.
I'm absolutely fine with it - because if i need a maximum brightness (lighter room, sun) I get it whether is AB OFF or ON.
 
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I concur. When @aakshey says he's tested it on so many devices, he apparently means he's asked people to test this for him and of course some people will have tested this in low light conditions.
 
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I concur. When @aakshey says he's tested it on so many devices, he apparently means he's asked people to test this for him and of course some people will have tested this in low light conditions.
I have personally tested on many many devices. And also asked others to do it for me, in addition. And also done this in Apple stores and at my home, in light and at night too. And also in front of an Apple genius too who replaced my phone eventually.
 
Okay I tested it.
Dark room.

AB off put my brightness higher about 20% more than AB OFF in all levels of brightness (in 20% percent is less noticable than on 50% of course) in dark room.

If I turn in room my lights on - nothing changed.
I'm absolutely fine with it - because if i need a maximum brightness (lighter room, sun) I get it whether is AB OFF or ON.
I don't understand what you did here or what you're trying to indicate.
 
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I tested near my bedside lamp on (3-5W LED)
Something like that
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And AB OFF no increase of brightness - so must be a very dark room - with no light.
And who wants a full brightness in full dark ? :oops: I think that is absolutely ok.
How many @aakshey testers run tests in full dark ? :)
 
Thanks. However, after reading more into this, I believe that this behavior is normal and that you are fighting wind mills. I'll still compare with some friends phones and gladly admit that I'm wrong if that's the case.
I have posted proof from 10+ people. I can't do anything more for you. This takes A LOT of time and effort. And I am only trying to help so more people don't suffer because of a dim display. If you're happy the way it is, great.
 
I tested near my bedside lamp on (3-5W LED)
Something like that
View attachment 1677783

And no increase of brightness - so must be a very dark room - with no light.
And who wants a full brightness in full dark ? :oops: I think that is absolutely ok.
How many @aakshey testers run tests in full dark ? :)
Exactly. No increase of brightness. You can test at any level (just not 100%). Any level 10/20/50% any level is fine, but not 100%. You've confirmed no increase in brightness with AB off, so your iPhone is 100% normal and perfect. And that's my point.
 
Only works with "some lights". If I'm in full dark room AB OFF increase brightness about 20% higher than AB ON. Only in full dark. Very little light in room and brightness staying same.
 
Only works with "some lights". If I'm in full dark room AB OFF increase brightness about 20% higher than AB ON. Only in full dark. Very little light in room and brightness staying same.
I haven't done such extensive tests. I have done under normal lighting conditions with LED/tube lights with some sunlight from the window. That is how I test. I don't purposely create ambient lightning. Normal day time light is fine. Apple stores have too much light, so may not be accurate.

Normal home light during the day or night (with some or all lights on at home) is usually fine to test. And in fact ideal.
 
I have personally tested on many many devices. And also asked others to do it for me, in addition. And also done this in Apple stores and at my home, in light and at night too. And also in front of an Apple genius too who replaced my phone eventually.
i guess you can test all day long but I have had both devices for a week and tested in real world under several conditions, and my family has the same devices (PRO and MAX) combo and they observe the same, the MAX screen is just much nicer... brighter, larger, more vibrant... sorry not into doing these test, into real world :)
 
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That is more like it.

What were the ambient light conditions? How much was the increase? Subtle or night and day?

But, yes, you've done the test correctly if you've tried 30% and 50%.
This was indoor in dim lighting conditions. The increase was ~20% or so at every level.
Again, this is working by design.

I tested an 11 pro, 12 pro, 12 pro max, and 12 mini side by side in the same room at 30% 50%, 90%, 100% brightness and they ALL increased in brightness at EVERY level when AB was turned off.

The issue with sourcing your 'testing' from multiple people is that you have no constant.
Every test is going to have different lighting conditions with people who may or may not notice the change, or interpret your testing the same way.

Testing in the store or any bright environment is again not a valid test.
When you are in a bright environment the ambient light sensor will max out the brightness range.
In that use case, there will be no brightness change with AB on or off, even at 100%.
 
This was indoor in dim lighting conditions. The increase was ~20% or so at every level.
Again, this is working by design.

I tested an 11 pro, 12 pro, 12 pro max, and 12 mini side by side in the same room at 30% 50%, 90%, 100% brightness and they ALL increased in brightness at EVERY level when AB was turned off.

The issue with sourcing your 'testing' from multiple people is that you have no constant.
Every test is going to have different lighting conditions with people who may or may not notice the change, or interpret your testing the same way.

Testing in the store or any bright environment is again not a valid test.
When you are in a bright environment the ambient light sensor will max out the brightness range.
In that use case, there will be no brightness change with AB on or off, even at 100%.
Means nothing. You don't need nothing constant. You can test under any conditions just not 100% brightness. Many people even commented they tested at night or under low light conditions. None of which matters really, but they did it anyway.

I have told you this defect is very very common. It is indeed possible for you to have 3 defective iPhones, although a rare possibility, but possible. That is why I asked you to visit an Apple store and test 10+ iPhones. Ambient light conditions don't matter too much unless you're directly under the sun or in too much light.

10+ people have posted. That is all I can do for you. Feel free to PM each of these members, their names have been shared with you. Tell them to do the test your way and feel free to then report back.

And it isn't just them, I have personally tried on 5 OLED iPhones myself. I know what I am talking about. Under varied lightning condition.

This problem gets worse each year. Each year is worse than the last. So this year the problem is very very widespread it seems.

But I am sure the vast majority of phones would still be defect free. That is why I asked you to visit a store or ask more people around you. If you test 100 iPhone 12 units, I am sure 70+ would work the way I am telling you. That is how big the defect might be, hence a sample size of 3 (although usually enough) might not cut it in your particular case if you got unlucky.

One of the people I commented about had to go through 3 iPhones before getting a good piece. Apple replaced her iPhone 2 times, the third was fine. That is how bad the situation is.
 
Means nothing. You don't need nothing constant. You can test under any conditions just not 100% brightness. Many people even commented they tested at night or under low light conditions. None of which matters really, but they did it anyway.

I have told you this defect is very very common. It is indeed possible for you to have 3 defective iPhones, although a rare possibility, but possible. That is why I asked you to visit an Apple store and test 10+ iPhones. Ambient light conditions don't matter too much unless you're directly under the sun or in too much light.

10+ people have posted. That is all I can do for you. Feel free to PM each of these members, their names have been shared with you. Tell them to do the test your way and feel free to then report back.

And it isn't just them, I have personally tried on 5 OLED iPhones myself. I know what I am talking about. Under varied lightning condition.

This problem gets worse each year. Each year is worse than the last. So this year the problem is very very widespread it seems.

But I am sure the vast majority of phones would still be defect free. That is why I asked you to visit a store or ask more people around you. If you test 100 iPhone 12 units, I am sure 70+ would work the way I am telling you. That is how big the defect might be, hence a sample size of 3 (although usually enough) might not cut it in your particular case if you got unlucky.

One of the people I commented about had to go through 3 iPhones before getting a good piece. Apple replaced her iPhone 2 times, the third was fine. That is how bad the situation is.
Whatever helps you sleep at night.
 
This was indoor in dim lighting conditions. The increase was ~20% or so at every level.
Again, this is working by design.

I tested an 11 pro, 12 pro, 12 pro max, and 12 mini side by side in the same room at 30% 50%, 90%, 100% brightness and they ALL increased in brightness at EVERY level when AB was turned off.

The issue with sourcing your 'testing' from multiple people is that you have no constant.
Every test is going to have different lighting conditions with people who may or may not notice the change, or interpret your testing the same way.

Testing in the store or any bright environment is again not a valid test.
When you are in a bright environment the ambient light sensor will max out the brightness range.
In that use case, there will be no brightness change with AB on or off, even at 100%.
Homeboy scientist over here making people test their devices when they have no actual equipment or basis. He's not even doing the bare minimum of asking them to measure the nits, everyone's just eyeballing it.

10/10 scientific testing, will cite again! 🤣
 
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Homeboy scientist over here making people test their devices when they have no actual equipment or basis. He's not even doing the bare minimum of asking them to measure the nits, everyone's just eyeballing it.

10/10 scientific testing, will cite again! 🤣

I have bought a lux meter and tested myself. I can’t expect everybody to buy one.
 
MAX MAX MAX is the brightest, its like an ipad PRO, best way to describe it... very addicting, awesome screen, nothing to not like-
 
MAX MAX MAX is the brightest, its like an ipad PRO, best way to describe it... very addicting, awesome screen, nothing to not like-
iPhone Pro is a lot brighter than any iPad Pro. Not even close. However, defective ones won’t have the experience of even an iPhone X or SE if you’re unlucky.
 
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Hey aakshey
iPhone Pro is a lot brighter than any iPad Pro. Not even close. However, defective ones won’t have the experience of even an iPhone X or SE if you’re unlucky.
Stop telling this lies and say to people that your phones are defective. This is not a issue is normal behavior in oled iPhones. The phones in the apple stores has not the same software they put a software that modify the normal behavior of iPhones because of this you not see this behavior in apple stores , they not the same iPhones software that you have at home. They put full brightness in AB on and off to show all the brightness possible in the store. I check for my self and talk with a apple technician , ok .....
Stop with nonsense arguments and with this lies .
 
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