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iPhone 13 Models Again Rumored to Support Faster Wi-Fi 6E

Apple_Robert said:
At the moment, such a feature is of no use to me. As it stands, I get well over 500Mbps on my home Wifi. I never have problems with latency or disconnects etc. Maybe one day I will have use for the feature.
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The main use case I'm thinking of is ultra-fast NAS backups or simple storage.

MBP 13" pricing to move from 512gb -> 2tb is $540.

Now, imagine instead, you buy a NAS for $250ish and can connect directly (or indirectly) over wi-fi 6E.

$250 nas + 8tb HDD ($200) = $450

WD Red 5400rpm can write at ~ 180Mbyte/sec, or 1440Mbps. 802.11ac can't hit this speed in the real world, but wi-fi 6E potentially could.

Not the best for everyday stuff / when leaving home, but great for backups and large media storage that you don't need to keep on your laptop. Main issue here is the NAS will have to have > 1Gbps ethernet interface.
 
The other thing I use is Powerline Ethernet IEEE 1905 standard. When I can not pull ethernet cable. People dont know about this or forget about these products and they try to use products that try to bridge wirelessly. You are just adding more radio to a already over saturated WIFI network. I have been using these for 10 years and love them to solve dead spots around large homes.
 
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jlocker said:
The other thing I use is Powerline Ethernet IEEE 1905 standard. When I can not pull ethernet cable. People dont know about this or forget about these products and they try to use products that try to bridge wirelessly. You are just adding more radio to a already over saturated WIFI network. I have been using these for 10 years and love them to solve dead spots around large homes.
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I far prefer Moca 2.5 over powerline stuff. Works great.
 
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jlocker said:
I aways love talking to people that don't understand WIFI, I engineered and installed the very first Motorola access point back in 1992 at the General Motors EDS technology labs. And have been a Ham,CB radio and GMRS licensed person. I see them all the time trying to purchase wifi extenders and other crap, when most of the time their problem is where their main router is located and they are trying to run 12 devices in a congested neighborhood on a 10 year old wireless 802.11N router they got at Walmart and dont know why their WIFI is not working correctly.
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LOL, I am a wi-fi engineer (at a big tech co) and I still see this on enterprise customers. Let alone home users
 
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nquinn said:
Why does the iPhone keep getting the faster wi-fi standards sooner than the macbooks? So backwards.
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Simple, on a MacBook you'd notice that it makes zero difference because you'd be transfering massive files. In real life scenarios WiFi would do better to concentrate on stability rather than speed. I'm sure Tim lives in a place large enough that his is the only signal, the rest of us have to fight for spectrum! WiFi that uses multiple channels just interferes with more neighbors simultaneously :)
 
aesc80 said:
I find it cute that we keep talking about increased WiFi speeds, when a good percentage of people are bottlenecked by their own ISPs. I find it already bad enough that we can't get a standard down on a Wi-Fi format, like we did back in the G/N/AC days. (I know, Wi-Fi 6 has been out now for a while, but lets be honest - it took quite a bit for it to be standardized, only to have another signal type bounce into the picture). Personally, I'm not doing so many things inside my own home network to see the huge advantage passed casting a video (which even then is rare in itself). I'll forever be tied to my ISP speeds, which in the US is slow by nature.
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sigh, here we go again:

improvements in network speeds are useful to people within their LAN, not specifically just for faster to the internet. no one is making these devices or advancements in technology because we're about to have 10Gb fiber widespread (certainly not in the US lmao place had an FCC chairman who insists 3Mb down is perfectly fine lolololol)
 
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lusty said:
on a MacBook you'd notice that it makes zero difference because you'd be transfering massive files.
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That makes no sense. The MacBook is the device where you would perform large data transfer, and is precisely where lower interference and higher MCS would make a difference.

iPhone and iPads can benefit from the lesser interference in the greenfield 6E spectrum and lower power consumption of 6/6E, but throughput-wise most iPhones and iPads don't stand to benefit much from anything newer than 802.11ac unless you have gigabit throughput upstream of the device and regularly pull down 1+ GB files, like large video podcasts, or regularly do iTunes backups to a Mac or PC over Wi-Fi. Most people do neither.
 
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lusty said:
Simple, on a MacBook you'd notice that it makes zero difference because you'd be transfering massive files. In real life scenarios WiFi would do better to concentrate on stability rather than speed. I'm sure Tim lives in a place large enough that his is the only signal, the rest of us have to fight for spectrum! WiFi that uses multiple channels just interferes with more neighbors simultaneously :)
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Does not compute. Massive files = you definitely want faster speed.
 
McKodiak said:
Too bad a Wifi 6E router costs more than an iPhone.
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Too bad they (Apple and WIFI6 equipment manufacturers) haven't got a WIFI6 solution that really works!
Try researching WIFI6 mesh systems for home and you'll see every one of them has issues.

Range. Speed. Affordable. Pick 2.

Not that I need it, but I just want my iPhone with WIFI6 to do a speedtest and show me >800 on my COX Gigablast internet!!
 
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Nice! I see the iPhone 13 mini as my next iPhone. Or almost. If iPhone 13 mini had a SoC built in the 3nm process, this year would be awesome to buy: Faster WiFi, much lower battery drain, better cameras with on board stabilization, smaller notch... Yeah LTPO panels are still only for Pro models, but I’d trully like to have a lower power consumption screen on my mini.

With all that things I‘d definitely buy a 13mini, but something tells me 2022 is the year to get a new iPhone. My iPhone 8 still rocks.
 
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I'm good with the 847 Mbps down I'm getting on WiFi 6 with my iPhone 12 Pro Max.
 
jlocker said:
I aways love talking to people that don't understand WIFI, I engineered and installed the very first Motorola access point back in 1992 at the General Motors EDS technology labs. And have been a Ham,CB radio and GMRS licensed person. I see them all the time trying to purchase wifi extenders and other crap, when most of the time their problem is where their main router is located and they are trying to run 12 devices in a congested neighborhood on a 10 year old wireless 802.11N router they got at Walmart and dont know why their WIFI is not working correctly.
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So you're blaming people because they're not engineers like you and actually believed what the product advertises it will do? I see those people as victims, not dumb.
 
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Good. Wifi 6 was a stopgap. Wifi6E will be a long-hauler. People who rushed to buy wifi 6 routers (with the acceptation of people who desperately needed a new router) didn't do they research.
 
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May I ask, if this is such a big jump, while the 6 wasn’t, then why WiFi 6 is not WiFi 5E and WiFi 6E is not WiFi 6 or 7? I don’t get it, bigger tech jumps go along with a more noticeable name change.
 
WiFi 6E brings some massive quality of life improvements. Huge 6GHz spectrum + all the great improvements from 802.11ax. The deluge of 6GHz routers is going to come fast, a lot faster than .ax.

Here's hoping the 14" MacBook Pro features WiFi 6E too.
 
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Eorlas said:
sigh, here we go again:

improvements in network speeds are useful to people within their LAN, not specifically just for faster to the internet. no one is making these devices or advancements in technology because we're about to have 10Gb fiber widespread (certainly not in the US lmao place had an FCC chairman who insists 3Mb down is perfectly fine lolololol)
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If you notice, I said "Personally, I'm not doing so many things inside my own home network to see the huge advantage passed casting a video (which even then is rare in itself)". Other than my grammatical error, I mentioned that my own home net (LAN) isn't all that beneficial, at least on the iPhone part. For my iPad / iMac, Mac Pro, and other devices, sure - I'm exchanging files and what not, though it's normally small. But on an iPhone, I don't see that much of a benefit other than internet speeds (which we both agree we probably won't see widespread 10Gb fiber for a while in the US - thanks gov't!). I should be a bit more direct with my info.
 
problem is: my internet doesn't even support wifi 6 speeds. so, I don't really see the benefit.
 
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827538 said:
WiFi 6E brings some massive quality of life improvements. Huge 6GHz spectrum + all the great improvements from 802.11ax. The deluge of 6GHz routers is going to come fast, a lot faster than .ax.

Here's hoping the 14" MacBook Pro features WiFi 6E too.
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I'm going to be really disappointed if the new macbooks that come out mid-year don't have wi-fi 6e. Not that it will matter that much, but I tend to keep my laptops for like 7 years.
 
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Does 6E offer even less latency than regular wifi6? If so, that would be big for the future of VR/AR
 
Mr. Dee said:
I’m waiting for WiFi 8 in 2023. I think it’s gonna be even more powerful.
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It's gonna be Wifi 7, aka 802.11be. It's going to be a beast. 320 Mhz channels, link aggregation (i.e., combine data transmissions over 2.4, 5, and 6 Ghz), and so on.
 
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