iPhone 13 Pro iPhone 13 Pro main camera softness, less sharp than older iPhones

[mavere]

and the photo exhibits the same issue elsewhere as well - very ugly. I think it's either stacked images or probably the IS "wobbling". It's not traditional camera shake as for example on the left side there are no such issues.
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I normally shoot with ProRaw on (for no real good reason honestly), but in the handful of time I've noticed the "double vision" with the baseline HEIC layer, I did not see the same effect while editing the ProRaw layer.

ProRaw theoretically already includes Deep Fusion data, so maybe there's an extra layer of processing that has side effects.

 

[Menneisyys2]

I normally shoot with ProRaw on (for no real good reason honestly), but in the handful of time I've noticed the "double vision" with the baseline HEIC layer, I did not see the same effect while editing the ProRaw layer.

ProRaw theoretically already includes Deep Fusion data, so maybe there's an extra layer of processing that has side effects.

That's good news - that is, it wasn't the IS "wobbling" or something like that.

 

[coso]

Anyway I don't complain too much with sharpness. This is a photo taken today in low-ish light and I'm ok with the detail retrieved before further processing

 

[iphone27s]

Yeah, at night the 12 seems quite sharper

it takes less light, maybe is less exposure.

 

[coso]

Well if the 13 takes in more light the exposure shall be faster so sharper

 

[ItachiSBT]

This is one example of what I was talking about.

Look at the first photo. That is what I was seeing that day, exactly what my eyes can see. Now look at second photo, the HEIC that apple think is what people wants.
Different texture, different colors, different shadows but more "artificial" sharpness.

The shirt was like the first photo, not the second one. And in all the photos is the same thing, everything look "artificial", the only exception is the portrait mode where this effect is not present.

I don't know you, but I don't want this. This is simply bad.

 

[coso]

This is one example of what I was talking about.

Look at the first photo. That is what I was seeing that day, exactly what my eyes can see. Now look at second photo, the HEIC that apple think is what people wants.
Different texture, different colors, different shadows but more "artificial" sharpness.

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The shirt was like the first photo, not the second one. And in all the photos is the same thing, everything look "artificial", the only exception is the portrait mode where this effect is not present.

I don't know you, but I don't want this. This is simply bad.

Agreed. Or at least give us the option to choose

 

[iphone27s]

Well if the 13 takes in more light the exposure shall be faster so sharper

apparently it isn't?

it's blurrier but it does look that is getting more light.

 

[iphone27s]

This is one example of what I was talking about.

Look at the first photo. That is what I was seeing that day, exactly what my eyes can see. Now look at second photo, the HEIC that apple think is what people wants.
Different texture, different colors, different shadows but more "artificial" sharpness.

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The shirt was like the first photo, not the second one. And in all the photos is the same thing, everything look "artificial", the only exception is the portrait mode where this effect is not present.

I don't know you, but I don't want this. This is simply bad.

wow

the funny thing is that in daily photos, some sharpening would be actually better.


Now that you make me think about it, if you take a photo a night and you quickly open it, you should see the effect being applied after a fraction of seconds.
It happened to me a couple of days ago while doing night tests in a famous square that has lots of lights.

 

[TroyBoy30]

glad I’m not a pixel peeper

 

[coso]

apparently it isn't?

it's blurrier but it does look that is getting more light.

The "exposure" of the pictures should be the same, meaning the "brightness" we perceive. If a lens/sensor lets less light in, then it needs to keep the shutter open more time to get the same light as the other phone, to obtain the same brightness in the end, and this can lead to moving objects and or blurriness. That's why bigger lenses are usually best.

glad I’m not a pixel peeper

Well, you're right. But I'm a photographer so that's why I'm probably trained to notice small defects like these. I really wish I didn't. I decided to not care and enjoy my phone though, after obsessing about a lot of other stuff before, pointlessy. Sometimes these forums are bad for mental health

 

[AHabiPhone]

I’ve been noticing the same issue with my 13 PM in a bunch of scenarios. The photos come out inconsistent, very hit or miss. I felt confident with my 12 PM and my 11 PM taking photos and being wowed and so excited to share the results.

I had my 12 PM for a few days before I mailed it back in and compared some shots taken against my 13 PM (I wish I saved the 12 PM photos before I wiped the phone). But the difference was frustrating. It’s almost as if the camera is having a hard time focusing on certain details leading to a softer, less sharp image.

I will say that there is a strong over processing done with some photos and I’ve noticed the HDR and over sharpening issues as well.

It’s really just a frustrating situation because I don’t have confidence taking photos with my 13 PM and being certain the result will be the best possible. Hoping a software issue fixes this.