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The biggest gripe I hear is the battery life. And you’re not gonna get a big battery in a small phone. I could care less though if they kill it. I love the big screen phones. I’ve had the 6 Plus, the iPhone X, XS Max, 11 Pro Max and now the 12 Pro Max.
The biggest gripe is lack of feature-parity. As in, we want the same camera the other, larger models get. And I don’t buy that one tiny extra lens is too large to add onto the smaller phone — that’s baloney.
 
hmm, yeah you're right, just tested out my 12 mini and there is no changing of focus on the ultra wide lens.

The depth of field is often so large with ultra wides that they don’t need to focus in most circumstances.
 
The biggest gripe is lack of feature-parity. As in, we want the same camera the other, larger models get. And I don’t buy that one tiny extra lens is too large to add onto the smaller phone — that’s baloney.

Aren’t the cameras the same on the regular 12?
 
The biggest gripe is lack of feature-parity. As in, we want the same camera the other, larger models get. And I don’t buy that one tiny extra lens is too large to add onto the smaller phone — that’s baloney.
I doubt that will ever happen. They want you to spend the big bucks on their “pro” phones.
 
I doubt that will ever happen. They want you to spend the big bucks on their “pro” phones.
It’s not a price issue for me and never has been. Make a “Pro Mini” and charge the same price if they want — that’s the model I’d buy.

Unfortunately, Apple can’t get past the concept that “smaller means inferior,” so they keep offering inferior products in the smaller form factor, then are surprised when no one buys it.
 
It’s not a price issue for me and never has been. Make a “Pro Mini” and charge the same price if they want — that’s the model I’d buy.

Unfortunately, Apple can’t get past the concept that “smaller means inferior,” so they keep offering inferior products in the smaller form factor, then are surprised when no one buys it.
A majority of people will not buy a small phone that cost the same as a big phone. I’ve talked to a bunch of people and they all said they rather have a bigger phone. I’m sure Apple has done research as well. They’re no dummies.
 
A majority of people will not buy a small phone that cost the same as a big phone. I’ve talked to a bunch of people and they all said they rather have a bigger phone. I’m sure Apple has done research as well. They’re no dummies.
It’s all anecdotal of course. I know many people who want a small phone, some people know none.

My frustration is that for its flagship product, Apple does a lot of telling the consumer what they want and often they are wrong (let’s not forget just a few years ago they had small phones and were running entire ad campaigns explaining that people didn’t need or want bigger phones — clearly that was wrong).

I just want choice, a real choice rather than between a great product and an inferior one. Until then, many users are just “putting up with” iPhone rather than excited about it, and as an Apple fan I miss the days of being excited about their products instead of begrudgingly replacing them when absolutely necessary.
 
It’s all anecdotal of course. I know many people who want a small phone, some people know none.

My frustration is that for its flagship product, Apple does a lot of telling the consumer what they want and often they are wrong (let’s not forget just a few years ago they had small phones and were running entire ad campaigns explaining that people didn’t need or want bigger phones — clearly that was wrong).

I just want choice, a real choice rather than between a great product and an inferior one. Until then, many users are just “putting up with” iPhone rather than excited about it, and as an Apple fan I miss the days of being excited about their products instead of begrudgingly replacing them when absolutely necessary.
I hear you on that. But Apple is gonna sell what makes them the most money until it doesn’t. Then they’ll change and adapt. Like when enough people wanted big phones, they started selling them.
 
I hear you on that. But Apple is gonna sell what makes them the most money until it doesn’t. Then they’ll change and adapt. Like when enough people wanted big phones, they started selling them.
I hear what you are saying but I think the team over there is out of touch. The groupthink among Apple execs is that everyone wants a big phone, and even when offering smaller ones, they offer inferior products, which only validates their own false assumptions when they don’t sell well.
 
I hear what you are saying but I think the team over there is out of touch. The groupthink among Apple execs is that everyone wants a big phone, and even when offering smaller ones, they offer inferior products, which only validates their own false assumptions when they don’t sell well.
Most companies think that way. I don’t know if there’s a true flagship phone out there smaller than 5.5 inches or even similar in physical size.
 
Well no surprise there — everyone else just mimics what Apple does :D
And it sounds like the Mini is gonna be done after this year. By the time Mini numbers were tallied up by Apple they probably already ordered the 13 Mini. No surprise that they will make a base model 6.7 inch model. I put a poll on my IG asking do you prefer a big or a small phone. 97 percent chose big. Over 70 people respond to it. I’m glad I have big hands and like big phones.
 
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