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Really bummed about the mini's battery bump. Its minuscule compared to the other phones :( I wished it was more.
 
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It's almost as if they lowered the battery the year before to give people another excuse to buy the 13, oh wait.
 
If I was a cynic I might suggest they reduced battery size in the 12 series vs the 11 series, so they could advertise big battery gains in the 13 series... if I was a cynic.

I said this when I had the 12 Pro for a couple of days, there is no way the chip improvements made that much difference to allow a smaller battery, the 12 Pro has always lasted less time than my old 11 Pro, and here is the 13, a bigger battery and another improvement, well no, it's just bringing us back in line with a phone released 2 years ago.
 
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Why is everyone comparing to the iphone 12? They should be comparing to the iphone 11. Apple was relying on ios to battery management until software battery management is just not reliable. I think ios 14.8 is still draining my 8+ battery faster than before.
 
Just don’t touch the screen when you don’t have to. Don’t read a page while slowly scrolling the page.
in the words of the virgin Mary, come again?

How does that even make sense?
Load a page but wait don't READ it while slowly scrolling the page? what's the point of even slowly scrolling the page (or auto scrolling enabled in say iBooks/Books) in the very first place?? What your statement is saying doesn't make sense ... as you'll use power scrolling more than a static screen/page to read.
 
Almost the exact same as the 11 pro. Why did they lower it for the 12 in the first place? Just to add it back and be able to advertise “better” battery, when it’s in fact just “back to normal” after a year of bad?
So they could claim "better battery life" in their keynote. No excuse the 13 and 13 pro should have a different sized battery.
 
It's almost as if they lowered the battery the year before to give people another excuse to buy the 13, oh wait.
Teardowns of the 12 looked like the logic board got much bigger, probably due to 5G junk, so they couldn’t use the L shaped battery set they had in the X/XS/11. It might be awhile before they get it small enough again
 
How hilarious the Apple fans cheer for an iPhone with a battery capacity *finally* a little bit larger than 4000mAh! The Android phones’ battery capacities have been upgraded for years to at least 4500mAh - 5000mAh, with some later ones topping at 6000mAh. Don’t tell me the ******** about the battery life during actually usage, those are meaningless, the ONLY thing meaningful is the technical specs — the battery capacity readings!
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Well there is promotion that saves energy
Everyone is talking about pure battery size.

There is no evidence that shows ProMotion has net reduction in energy consumption. On my iPad Pro it uses more.

Also, the Pros have more cameras.
 
Picking up my 13 Mini today and looking forward to the extra hour or so each day. I've loved the 12 Mini, and MOST days the battery is fine and I make it until bed without even thinking about charging. But I also don't watch many videos on my phone or do much streaming or video recording. There have been a few heavier days where I needed to top off in the evening, but 10 minutes on a fast charger takes care of that.

I get that the Mini is niche - it's small and the screen is not ideal for heavy consumption. But it's also caused me to change my habits a bit and look at my phone a little less. It's been perfect for me and I hope the improvements in the 13 Mini will encourage Apple to keep this form factor beyond just this year (though it's not looking good!).

I too love the 12 mini, currently in use until store stock in Toronto, ON is replenished.

the extra full continuous 1.5-2hrs on screen battery life that the 13 mini gets is outstanding!

the use case of us 12 mini owners and now 13 mini owners varies slightly but the larger battery and hUGE iOS 15 improvements coupled with Focus (Sleep, Meditation, workouts, work, studying or reading) setup can significantly improve battery life and on screen use case.

my eyes have always been sensitive to more than 30% brightness on iPhones since the iPhone 5 so that also helps battery life usage, something to consider.

honestly I think with lockdowns pretty much done for and travelling opening up many May give the 13 mini a full consideration, try and purchase.

this 2021-2022 the 13 mini is THE unsung halo in the entire lineup. The iPhone SE battery life got crushed/pawned by the 13 mini - even the 12 mini already owned that.
 
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Teardowns of the 12 looked like the logic board got much bigger, probably due to 5G junk, so they couldn’t use the L shaped battery set they had in the X/XS/11. It might be awhile before they get it small enough again

honestly this is where Apple really needs to focus on going forward: iPhone logic board size.
Reducing the logic board size, and it’s components will give more space for larger battery capacities, hopefully not larger camera sensors but maybe a liquid-lens for true optical zoom without so many element lens (glass), and room for a vapour chamber which will be. A HUGE benefit to Pro users for extended ProRes video recording, all iPhones modes for prolonged gaming or video watching, and especially for protecting battery longevity during Qi/MagSafe battery charges.

I’m expecting and hoping that the logic board is reduced significantly enough so that it hides under the camera area area spanning the top quarter of the iPhone in future models. This aligns with sleep/wake button, maybe volume buttons and just use cabling where needed for other components.

mid Apple can work with all global carriers to bring esim as a fully supported variant, then iPhone security for lost or stolen phones increases (nothing to remove).
 
Apple is finally doing a great job when it comes to the battery department. Took them a while but I think this is the true stepping stone.
 
using a browser search function, here are some added figures:

iPhone SE (2020): 1,821 mAh
iPhone 12 mini: 2,227 mAh
iPhone 13 mini: 2,406 mAh
iPhone XS: 2,658 mAh
iPhone 8 Plus: 2,691 mAh
iPhone X: 2,761 mAh
iPhone 12: 2,815 mAh
iPhone 12 Pro: 2,815 mAh

iPhone XR: 2,942 mAh
iPhone 13 Pro: 3,095 mAh
iPhone 11: 3,110 mAh
iPhone XS Max: 3,174 mAh
iPhone 11 Pro: 3,190mAh
iPhone 13: 3,227 mAh
iPhone 12 Pro Max: 3,687 mAh
iPhone 11 Pro Max: 3,969 mAh
iPhone 13 Pro Max:
4,352 mAh

not sure how true/factual these are but there you are.
EDITED: added in iPhone 12 & 13 models and highlighted the 12/13s with different colors.
EDITED 2: added in the iPhone SE 2020 model.
EDITED 3: corrected iPhone 11 Pro Max numbers thanks to @tann
Thanks for this awesome share.
 
It's almost as if they lowered the battery the year before to give people another excuse to buy the 13, oh wait.
Lol, what? The design was thinner last year than this year's model which limited the bigger capacity they could fit in there that is why it's thicker this year? Do you read anything at all Mr. Consipracy? No one forces you to buy the latest iPhones either that's on you.
 
Pro is less than non-pro?
Not really a surprise, Apple pulled the similar thing between iPad Pro 11 2020 and the iPad 2020 and despite of having slightly smaller battery, much more power hungry A12Z and slightly larger display, the pro still manages to get better battery life.
 
Apple should put in the same size battery as the 13 by thinking the width of the iPhone Mini!
 
Nice that Apple compares the batteries, but I (still) find it interesting that Apple does NOT compare the A15's CPU core Perf to the A14's CPU core Perf.

Good thing there is an app out there that could be used for such purposes, & one that isn't based-upon a Synthetic Benchmark (i.e., Geekbench), but instead, based-upon a Real-World Test.

BTW, I'm still UN-decided about upgrading this year (from an 11 Pro Max which is just now paid off).

If I did, it would be for the 13 Pro Max.

But, I have NAND Flash Storage Write Op Perf concerns if I decide to go with the 128 GB version.

Does it have much lower perf than the 256 GB & above versions ?

Why else would Apple say 256 GB & above is required for 4K30p ProRes Video capture ?

Anybody ?

Is it strictly Marketing's attempt to try to UP-Sell ?

Or, is the 128 GB version somewhat crippled, Write Op Perf-wise, compared to the others ?

Has anybody Benchmark'd (& Analyzed) the Write Op Perf of the 128 GB & 256 GB 13 Pro Max models ?

It's NOT clear to be if ANY of the Geekbench tests does what I'm after.

Anybody ?
 
Really bummed about the mini's battery bump. Its minuscule compared to the other phones :( I wished it was more.

It's better than miniscule for sure. The size plus the processor and model efficiency really seems to make a difference. I know it's only been a couple of days, but I'm seeing close to 2 hours more per day so far. I'm not a big video recorder or watcher on my phones, though.
 
It's better than miniscule for sure. The size plus the processor and model efficiency really seems to make a difference. I know it's only been a couple of days, but I'm seeing close to 2 hours more per day so far. I'm not a big video recorder or watcher on my phones, though.
I digress. Nice. Well I'm glad apple updated the mini given its likely DOA next year. Maybe I'll pick one up or upgrade to a pro if they make titanium (please make it it light again apple).
 
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Nice that Apple compares the batteries, but I (still) find it interesting that Apple does NOT compare the A15's CPU core Perf to the A14's CPU core Perf.

Good thing there is an app out there that could be used for such purposes, & one that isn't based-upon a Synthetic Benchmark (i.e., Geekbench), but instead, based-upon a Real-World Test.

BTW, I'm still UN-decided about upgrading this year (from an 11 Pro Max which is just now paid off).

If I did, it would be for the 13 Pro Max.

But, I have NAND Flash Storage Write Op Perf concerns if I decide to go with the 128 GB version.

Does it have much lower perf than the 256 GB & above versions ?

Why else would Apple say 256 GB & above is required for 4K30p ProRes Video capture ?

Anybody ?

Is it strictly Marketing's attempt to try to UP-Sell ?

Or, is the 128 GB version somewhat crippled, Write Op Perf-wise, compared to the others ?

Has anybody Benchmark'd (& Analyzed) the Write Op Perf of the 128 GB & 256 GB 13 Pro Max models ?

It's NOT clear to be if ANY of the Geekbench tests does what I'm after.

Anybody ?

At 6 GB per minute, you could maybe record 15 minutes on a completely empty iPhone 13 pro with 128GB minus whatever iOS takes up. Anyone who actually uses their phones as anything other than a movie camera would be very unlikely to fit anything usable, and those that do use them as movie cameras are absolutely getting the larger storage sizes anyway.
 
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