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This 14 pro is absolutely amazing. Everyone should get it.
 
I distinctly remember my professor at university telling me that incremental improvements were rarely lauded by the public and that they were more wowed by updates in multiples of integers above one. Those days of rapid advancement year-on-year are pretty much over and people are moving from a two to a three or even four year product cycle these days.

It only matters if the final result is significantly faster performance at lower power levels.

If it instead, as I suspect, only amounts to a sub 10% performance increase that offsets a 10% power saving to provide similar battery life then people will likely be disappointed despite tangible gains.
This!! This is what I have been shouting into the void! Thank you for putting it in such direct terms!
 
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I am legitimately curious, in what situation does the iPhone ever show that it doesn't have enough RAM? I have been using them since the first and I cannot ever remember wishing for more memory. I still find the experience smoother than any other phone I have ever used.

Not being a dick, just trying to figure out why people keep wanting more and more RAM when it seems like Apple has the iPhone pretty optimized using less than competitors.
I would saying halving multiple tabs open in safari is where it’s most obvious.
 
I am legitimately curious, in what situation does the iPhone ever show that it doesn't have enough RAM? I have been using them since the first and I cannot ever remember wishing for more memory. I still find the experience smoother than any other phone I have ever used.

Not being a dick, just trying to figure out why people keep wanting more and more RAM when it seems like Apple has the iPhone pretty optimized using less than competitors.
The tiny RAM allocation proved a pain in the ass on both iPhone 4 and iPhone 6 that I owned. It wasn't hard to detect.
 
I have a sneaking suspicion that the type and size of RAM and CPU in these devices will matter less and less…. Until the Apple AR goggles launch, then every tiny bit will be put to use.
 
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I am legitimately curious, in what situation does the iPhone ever show that it doesn't have enough RAM? I have been using them since the first and I cannot ever remember wishing for more memory. I still find the experience smoother than any other phone I have ever used.

Not being a dick, just trying to figure out why people keep wanting more and more RAM when it seems like Apple has the iPhone pretty optimized using less than competitors.
I’m wondering as well. It would be interesting and informative to read some wide-spread real world examples of how the Pro phones are used and worth the processing power. (I.e. not “professional videographer youtuber” or “fashion executive designing next years clothing line”, but PTA meetings, weekend bird watcher, business college student, etc.)
 
Too bad single core perf increase vs. iPhone 13 Pro is less than 10%
Were you having speed issues on your 13 pro? These were already well ahead of the competition. Now the A16 almost matches the m2 chip which has one of the fastest single score speeds of any laptop in the world.
 
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Occasionally sleeping apps will reload, like safari. More memory will stop the reloading.
And does that really impair performance to any significant degree? I've never had a delay in Safari loading. Not ever.
 
Currently in DFW, checked inventory and every config/color of the 14 pro is available for pickup today or tomorrow. Seems demand is not as high as expected.
I checked this morning and it's now last week of October in Canada for every color, every capacity.
I thought demand seemed extremely high, or the shortages persist. I guess I'm wrong.
 
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What is incredible is that an iPhone is just 2GB shy of the 8GB offered in entry level MBAs and MBPs. Goes to show how important memory is for the Mac-line and how under powered they are to boost bottom line.

Unpopular opinion? Perhaps.
And to think that the Xbox Series S has 10 GB GDDR6 RAM, which only costs £250!!! Apple should really be providing 10-12 GB base RAM on the Air/MBP 13.
 
In my experience the people buying these computers do not understand their use cases and have no idea what hardware is appropriate.

Most of the time that use case is opening Chrome and leaving it open with ten thousand tabs and so no, 8 GB isn't enough.

But Apple will start with 16GB of RAM around the time the base iPhone has 256 of storage. In other words, a long long time from now. That upgrade plum is just too sweet.
What’s the base then? As a test on various JavaScript and ad filled sites, I just had a few dozen tabs and it maxed out my 16GB Windows system.

Saying you have 10 tabs open is like saying you have 10 programs open. Are the all notepad programs? Or are they Photoshop/After Effects/etc? The web isn’t 1995 anymore. I have seen single websites with rogue JavaScript take 2 GB of RAM. Just for that one site. One tab!
 
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I fully agree. Which is why, in those threads where people ask for advice, I always recommend to get more memory.
If I could still just pop open panels to add RAM, I'd always put the max, but you straight out can't self upgrade anymore, or you have to take the entire bottom off.
 
I have a sneaking suspicion that the type and size of RAM and CPU in these devices will matter less and less…. Until the Apple AR goggles launch, then every tiny bit will be put to use.
It might help if you have the max Safari tabs open like my wife
 
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If I could still just pop open panels to add RAM, I'd always put the max, but you straight out can't self upgrade anymore, or you have to take the entire bottom off.
The problem arises with the memory bandwidth. M1 Max has 16 channel memory and M1 Ultra has 32 channels. We would need A LOT of memory sockets to have that many channels. I need the memory bandwidth so I’d trade upgrades for the bandwidth. I don’t even upgrade RAM in my custom built PCs.
 
Literally placed an order on the app at 9am and it will deliver tonite. Can’t wait! My first launch day in 5 years.
Woahhh you’re gonna love it! (At least that’s what Tim thinks).

Now seriously, I share your excitement. The 14pro brings a breeze of fresh air to the lineup. I hope you enjoy the new design and the island.

Wrote from a 4 year old iPhone 8.

PS: cute cat.
 
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I checked this morning and it's now last week of October in Canada for every color, every capacity.
I thought demand seemed extremely high, or the shortages persist. I guess I'm wrong.
Same issue here for me in bc Canada. Pro max is going into November now lol
 
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