Haven’t noticed any of the above regressions. (Translation: my pro max has none of what you describe)
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Let's double check if you're on the 16.1 beta or the public release 16.0.1. If you're on the Beta then yea, that's my experience too that these betas are exceptionally buggy compared to the past. If you're using the public release then that's a bigger set of problems.
It does really feel like Apple's overall software quality isn't what is was 10 and especially 15 years ago. They're adding too many layers of new stuff without fixing the old stuff. Felt like they used to refine the foundation to be rock solid then stack bricks on top. Nowadays it feels like the kernel is granite but the middle 70% of the OS is porous limestone with the new features being loose gravel on top and there's a rainstorm eroding all of it.
@ian87w Glad to be of service with beta testing. It hasn't been pretty especially as I was dumb enough to install them on my main machines (read, only machines I have)
I am on beta 16.1; each beta since 16.0‘s first beta was a mess; 15 was OK, this year was a big step backwards.
Simple things like totally broken wifi. And now the GPS totally broken on 14 Pro’s (because of the L5 duel GPS they didn’t bother to even test), and we’re hearing stories of the camera not working due to stabilization shaking.
I think apple doesn’t really follow any testing and development methodology - it has all the feel of an outsourced operation where developers randomly grab stories/defects and just work them in a bubble. Which is never efficient, but it’s OK if you have a stellar QA framework to prevent bad code moving forward. My guess is they only have a basic suite of regression tests and I bet it’s on a virtual iPhone so they don’t actually get real test results. And even the virtual test is run it’s only on a brand new virtual iPhone instead of a well used and adjusted OS like all of us have.
total lack of any feedback loop for beta testers is just crazy. That feedback app use to work, but the last two releases they don’t respond or close out feedback any more… pretty sure they abandoned using any feedback… even new features that came out in iOS 15 are not even options to choose when reporting defects.
Simple things like totally broken wifi. And now the GPS totally broken on 14 Pro’s (because of the L5 duel GPS they didn’t bother to even test), and we’re hearing stories of the camera not working due to stabilization shaking.
I think apple doesn’t really follow any testing and development methodology - it has all the feel of an outsourced operation where developers randomly grab stories/defects and just work them in a bubble. Which is never efficient, but it’s OK if you have a stellar QA framework to prevent bad code moving forward. My guess is they only have a basic suite of regression tests and I bet it’s on a virtual iPhone so they don’t actually get real test results. And even the virtual test is run it’s only on a brand new virtual iPhone instead of a well used and adjusted OS like all of us have.
total lack of any feedback loop for beta testers is just crazy. That feedback app use to work, but the last two releases they don’t respond or close out feedback any more… pretty sure they abandoned using any feedback… even new features that came out in iOS 15 are not even options to choose when reporting defects.
We'll be firing up my sweetie's 14 Pro this week, after reading all the numerous bug reports I can't say where I'm filled with warm-fuzzies at the, er, upgrade from her iOS 12 6S.
No issues here with my 14 Pro Max.
People are saying these problems are an iPhone 14 issue and well that’s sort of correct it’s more of an iOS 16 issue. These aren’t hardware problems, but software problems in the OS. I had my fair share of iOS 15 issues with the iPhone 13 Pro Max. So far the only issue with iOS 16 that I can think of right now is where Facebook comments are covered by the keyboard.
People are saying these problems are an iPhone 14 issue and well that’s sort of correct it’s more of an iOS 16 issue. These aren’t hardware problems, but software problems in the OS. I had my fair share of iOS 15 issues with the iPhone 13 Pro Max. So far the only issue with iOS 16 that I can think of right now is where Facebook comments are covered by the keyboard.
Well from my experience, the fun (not fun) is going to be in the transfer. Of course it seems like everyone’s experience is different and others had no issue with this.
I’ve had this exact same issue happen several times throughout the past year on my 13PM as well.
Except, if you buy a 14, you have no choice but to use iOS16, it is impossible to downgrade to iOS15. Whereas all us more patient, and Apple-wise fans, wait until the worst of the bugs have been ironed out of any new Apple OS version before jumping onto either the new OS or the new hardware that is locked to that OS.
Heavy indexing is expected after an update. Battery may be poor for a couple of days after an update, but should be close to “normal” after that
I mentioned this in another thread. I played with the 14 Pro Max today for the first time at the Apple Store and immediately noticed this. I THOUGHT it was perhaps because it's a demo unit.
Swapping from Photo, especially to ProRAW was extremely slow. Then to Cinematic video was again, slow. Back to Photo mode and a black screen for 2-3 seconds until I saw anything. Just became a bit aggravating and I put it down.
That can be easily fixed with an update.
Swapping from Photo, especially to ProRAW was extremely slow. Then to Cinematic video was again, slow. Back to Photo mode and a black screen for 2-3 seconds until I saw anything. Just became a bit aggravating and I put it down.
That can be easily fixed with an update.
Quite a few issues with cameras on the 14 models. Hopefully a software update will fix everything.
It’s almost as if they need to step back, take a breath and spend a year, maybe two, only ironing out the features they have. Treat it like Snow Leopard. At the time Leopard seemed buggy and could use have used an extra year to bake but modern macOS, iOS, iPadOS, etc still have bits of raw batter.
It appears as if the actual software is being rushed to meet the hardware release deadline.
That's a bit difficult to pull off when the new hardware requires new software to use it. Otherwise, "your new phone has all these new features you'll be able to use a few months after buying it" is difficult to accept. Also: some of the issues may not be discoverable until the new software is out in the wild. You can't pre-test every possible set of use case circumstances.
iOS 16 has been flawless for me on my iPhone 13 Pro. The upgrade was like every other one I’ve done — it took a while but everything works as expected once it’s done.
I did have some rare Safari bugs in iOS 15 (address bar text super small) but that hasn’t happened for a while and hasn’t shown up in iOS 16.
I did have some rare Safari bugs in iOS 15 (address bar text super small) but that hasn’t happened for a while and hasn’t shown up in iOS 16.
That is literally what we have now. Many of the largest iOS features are delayed again this year. And even basic functions fail to work properly on the newest devices. My point is the new phones should come with a point update to the current release (15.8 or whatever) to at least work as well as the current models without major usability issues. Not being able to activate your phone, use iMessage, or having the phone freeze repeatedly are huge annoyances right out of the box. It leaves people, who just bought a $1,000+ phone, with an immediately bad taste and makes the pickup/activation process miserable or everyone involved. Software has been Apple's weakest link for many years, they need to admit it, and at least try to mitigate the problem when releasing new "premium" hardware.
Nothing too major since upgrading my 13 Pro last Monday.
No issues with Camera that I remember. Took a few days for battery to stop draining like a bathtub. Seems ok now.
Wireless CarPlay won't release music. Have to manually start a Podcast via the iPhone because Siri plays music instead of Podcasts after responding "now playing Apple Podcasts". This used to be an intermittent problem, now it's all the time, and even randomly plays music after starting a Podcast.
The most interesting issue was last Friday morning when I woke up to a dead phone. Not a dead battery (was 80%), but a completely black screen with no response from any buttons. Holding power button did nothing. Holding power button and volume up simultaneously did nothing. Plugging in charger for 10 minutes shows nothing on the screen. I repeated those things a few times and I was just about to setup an appointment at the Apple Store when I found an article that said the "firmware can lock up". I had to force a restart: volume up, volume down, then hold the power button. It worked - Apple logo appeared and booted up fine.
No issues with Camera that I remember. Took a few days for battery to stop draining like a bathtub. Seems ok now.
Wireless CarPlay won't release music. Have to manually start a Podcast via the iPhone because Siri plays music instead of Podcasts after responding "now playing Apple Podcasts". This used to be an intermittent problem, now it's all the time, and even randomly plays music after starting a Podcast.
The most interesting issue was last Friday morning when I woke up to a dead phone. Not a dead battery (was 80%), but a completely black screen with no response from any buttons. Holding power button did nothing. Holding power button and volume up simultaneously did nothing. Plugging in charger for 10 minutes shows nothing on the screen. I repeated those things a few times and I was just about to setup an appointment at the Apple Store when I found an article that said the "firmware can lock up". I had to force a restart: volume up, volume down, then hold the power button. It worked - Apple logo appeared and booted up fine.
I am becoming less and less of a fan of IOS. One of my favorite things about IOS was that I knew exactly what to expect. More or less the experience was going to be the same no matter what device I went to. Jump to current IOS and there are so many bugs and variables that I am just never sure what will fully work. The questions that I have to ask too often "what bug fix am I going to have to Google today?" "Will this feature actually work the way I expect it to?" I am tired of over hyped features, I just want a stable OS.
Is there a term for bad nostalgia? Not "the good old days" instead remembering great potential that has been lost.
It can be a real bummer to read about some of the theory/philosophy that was put into the original iPhone where the responsiveness of the device was put above all else. It had to feel like pushing a real thing around and not dragging your finger on glass to watch a response later (or something to that effect)
Somewhere over the years it seems priorities changed and the whole system is slowly collapsing.
If nothing else, 10 years ago they were selling one size of iPhone the 5 and 5c, and supported a few others, 4, 4S, 3GS etc. Today, just what Apple sells today, 12, 13, 13 mini, SE, 14, 14 Plus, 14 Pro, 14 Pro Max. And then they're supporting a couple dozen other models going back years including pro and non pro models. They've overextended the iPhone line and created the same model sprawl the desktops had in the mid 90's.
I really feel with the iPhone 15 they need to do some soul searching on what they really want the iPhone to be and do away with the regular and pro models. Make a small, medium, large, and classic model. Yes they can't put all of the features in all of them but put what's reasonable in each.
They could technically do it with the current lineup. 13 mini (small), 14 medium, 14 pro max (large) and the SE for the classic.
They're already doing that with their laptops. MacBook Air (small), 14 inch MacBook Pro (medium), 16 inch MacBook Pro (large), and 13 inch Touch Bar MacBook (classic)
All mobile OS have issues with new release. I work with Android everyday and it is a mess. When iOS have issues, everyone talk about that. Most will be fixed in a week
Hmm seems like a waste of resources to design and test an iOS release for a device only to release a new version of iOS weeks or months after. Plus with the new phone’s features built into the new iOS release. I think they just need to implement better testing processes.