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“You want USB-C? Here’s your USB-C with 18W charging and USB 2.0 speeds!”

Holy crap, now I’m worried that Apple will do just that:

2023: iPhone 15 Pro with USB-C 18W and 480mbps.

2024: iPhone 16 Pro with USB-C 3.0 speeds and 25W — 0 to 50% in 15 mins! iPhone 16 gets last years port.

2025: iPhone 17 Pro with Thunderbolt and USB 4 with 60W charging. 0 to 100% in under 30 mins.
No really, that's exactly how this stuff pans out for anyone seriously watching Apple. Not sure where 8k video (unappealing to me), wifi 6E, and a second 48MP camera fit in here. 🤔

(Devices going from Bluetooth 5.0 to 5.3 this year was a shock to me.)
 
Could you not airdrop from a iPhone to a iPad with a usb-c then use the ipad to pc. Would that be faster than iPhone to pc ?
 
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This is embarrassing, but evidently Apple is so confident and so comfortable in their current position that they have no f___s to give on this topic.

I don't blame them, as long as there are minions year in and year out lining up to buy the phones, they have no incentive to do better. They'll just throw in a gimmicky software feature (cough DI cough) and call it a day.
 
I have an iPhone 11 Pro and have no interest upgrading until they add a USB-C port

What's ironic, though, is that Lightning is just a fancy, proprietary USB connector. It's still USB, not some fancy protocol. Why Apple hasn't allowed it to seamlessly upgrade in speed as new USB speeds have come along is the big question. Is the Lightning port, or its associated electronics, unable to handle faster speeds?

EDIT: Pin count is the culprit. Lightning doesn't have enough pins to fully support USB 3.0, without a hack.
 
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An interesting bit of information... it takes longer to offload ProRes at the max quality than it does to shoot it.
 
That’s fine. Gives me more hope for usb-c next year (when I plan on upgrading).

There is simply no way Apple isn’t aware of this very legit criticism on their phones made year after year.

I cannot wait for the keynote and everyone losing their **** when apple finally does it. I’m pretty sure the applause will be deafening.
 
AirDrop is very fast. Wi-Fi works well too. This is annoying but it's hardly a problem compared to video. Which is far far larger. It's clear I think that Apple is going away from lightning next year…
AirDrop is not compatible with third party software or PCs. Even best case scenario peer-to-peer with compatible devices when a router isn't involved is inadequate for large-scale file transfers—and that's if you can actually get it to work. For me, AirDrop is one of those "Apple it just works" features that just doesn't work.

I don't know about everyone else, but all too often AirDrop becomes the usual circus of toggling wi-fi on/off over and over again, triple checking software update on all devices, restarting everything, painstakingly re-selecting each item that needs to get transferred when the transfer fails or devices aren't found... can I just plug in my damn USB-C cable and move on already??
 
Even with the latest Asus 6E router and a M1 Max MBP 16, airdrop transfer speeds are still around USB 2.0 speeds with my iphone 13. I doubt the 14 is any faster here

Routers can sometimes get "gummed up", and a reboot can restore their full performance. Have you tried that?
 
Airdrop is a seriously great protocol, and if people (like myself) want a portless iPhone they better get used to it!


Airdrop uses a Wi-Fi Direct connection between your two devices, and should be much faster than usb 2.0 speeds. It is for me, on an iPhone 13 Pro.
Airdrop is all fun and games until it stops working on multiple files and you have to go one by one. Apple and wireless is a bad mix. There is not one wireless service of theirs that is rock solid. I try each one of them out and usually run into issues in the first week. Took a little longer for airdrop but as always, troubleshooting any Apple problems is a huge PITA. Usually the answer is just ”wipe everything”. That works sometimes but usually the problems just come back.
 
AirDrop is not compatible with third party software or PCs. Even best case scenario peer-to-peer with compatible devices when a router isn't involved is inadequate for large-scale file transfers—and that's if you can actually get it to work. For me, AirDrop is one of those "Apple it just works" features that just doesn't work.

I don't know about everyone else, but all too often AirDrop becomes the usual circus of toggling wi-fi on/off over and over again, triple checking software update on all devices, restarting everything, painstakingly re-selecting each item that needs to get transferred when the transfer fails or devices aren't found... can I just plug in my damn USB-C cable and move on already??

We use AirDrop all the time in our household and don't experience that 99.9% of the time. I will admit there is the very rare occasion where it doesn't work as expected, but if it's very problematic for you, I would guess that some other factor is involved, such as your inside networking.
 
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Imagine insisting to professional filmmakers/content creators to use AirDrop instead of using ubiquitous high bandwidth cables such as USB-C for professional video production workflows - it's such a jankey solution that is completely unnecessary - Forget ProRes transferring HEVC 4K60 footage over lightning is already soul crushingly tedious enough to make you beg for deaths sweet release let alone ProRes footage weighing in the tens of gigs - I N S A N I T Y
 
So, when we can start setting bets on what connector will be next year in EU and most of World probably?
A) Portless with MagSafe only
B) USB-C
 
AirDrop is super fast and easy. Why in the world would anybody move image files via wired connection?

I guess insisting on using a wired connection for moving photos provides a whine-worthy opportunity to be aggrieved.
It is, except when it isn't. There are many times when AirDrop recipients simply don't show up, and both have to do the "ok, who is it and who is restarting their phone" dance (years later, this bug still persists).

Also, AirDrop is not an appropriate backup solution, and restoring a 1TB iPhone from the cloud isn't a great experience. Neither is restoring it over USB 2.

Many of us who don't want to wait a full day for everything to sync (assuming the internet connection isn't interrupted) could benefit from this, which is, really a "no cost" change, because USB2 controllers and PHYs are not any cheaper than USB3/USBC (I'd argue they're actually larger and draw more power, actually).

But, Apple LOVES the MFi gate they have, so of course, they'll keep it up until they're forced to do otherwise. Kudos to the EU and Brazil for forcing the issue.
 
Folks, this is the most INCREDIBLE iPhone Apple has ever released! If the PR hype isn't good enough for you, I don't know what is!? Remember, this isn't the Apple of old, that skated to where the puck will be. This is the new Apple, who waits for technology to mature and skate to where the puck was.
 
The problem is that while some want to move, there are a lot that will bitch and complain about all their Lightning cables and accessories no longer working. It's a damned if you do, damned if you don't.

Regardless, it is the future so the 15 really needs to make the move.
That is true, but I would assume that Apple could make a very small lightning to usb c adapter that barely stuck out of the phone that would make the transition pretty easy.
 
“You want USB-C? Here’s your USB-C with 18W charging and USB 2.0 speeds!”

Holy crap, now I’m worried that Apple will do just that:

2023: iPhone 15 Pro with USB-C 18W and 480mbps.

2024: iPhone 16 Pro with USB-C 3.0 speeds and 25W — 0 to 50% in 15 mins! iPhone 16 gets last years port.

2025: iPhone 17 Pro with Thunderbolt and USB 4 with 60W charging. 0 to 100% in under 30 mins.
In all seriousness, I do believe Apple is shooting for a "no physical connector" future. I would not be surprised to have no physical ports on these devices beyond hidden debug/diagnostic leads/pads internally.

Which would be fine, but they need to at least keep up on Wi-Fi/relevant standards. Apple's Wi-Fi implementations and Bluetooth implementations always lag standards (no 6E, seriously? If you're going to stay in 2012 with your physical connector, at least don't be mediocre on the alternative you are pushing us towards....) and are of very low quality (the iOS and macos BT stack has never worked reliably for many people and still does not).
 
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