iPhone 14 Pro's Lightning Connector Still Limited to USB 2.0 Speeds Despite Large 48MP ProRAW Photos

[bmustaf]

With 5G, Wifi 6, and AirDrop... who cares? I can transfer RAW files on my Canon 1DX like it's nothing that way and it's never even slightly an issue.

Good luck restoring 1TB of data from your old iPhone to a new one over WiFi 6. Honestly, the part of getting a new iPhone I despite the most. In theory and on paper with the published speeds, it should work well, it never does.

If Apple is going to go the "no/old port" route, they should at least support the best and newest WiFi and BT standards and do it in such a way that the implementations are credible. Apple does many things well, their networking stacks/layers are anything but in that category.

 

[Mr Dobey]

iPhone 3GS i.e. the last time I physically connected a phone to a computer.

That said, bring on the iPhone 15 Pro Max w/ USB4 please.

 

[name99]

EVERY year, the internet decides on some issue (generally pointless, sometimes wrong, always irrelevant) to be THE focal complaint point against that year's new Apple devices.

For a while it looked like eSIM was going to be the winner, but in a surprise last minute upset, this year it appears to be USB-2 speeds!

Stay tuned. There's plenty more stupidity ahead.
What will be wrong with the new AirPods Pro? Just how dumb will be the complaints against the new iPads? Remember, it doesn't count as an internet complaint unless it
- comes from someone who has never owned an Apple product
- but insists that they would buy all of them if this one small thing were fixed

 

[citysnaps]

You do realize not everyone in the world ONLY moves photos, right? You do realize some of us deal with files on our devices that are 10+ GB, right? Some of us have 256GB or more devices that can handle the files... AirDrop is absolutely not reliable for transferring anything larger than 10GB. It fails 9/10 times, in which case I have to use a cloud service. That means waiting for it to upload and then download again to my device, which takes even longer.

Too funny. Two sentences starting with "You do realize..." in a row.

 

[nvmls]

The iPhone 14 “Pro”fit

Fixed it for ya.

 

[blicked]

Also… simply changing to connector to USB-C won’t ensure faster data speeds, there are some USB-C devices and cables that still limit to 2.0 speeds.

The people who are shooting ProRAW won't be using those cables.

 

[VuvuzelaiPhone]

Who needs needs faster USB when you have wifi? What year is it? Next year you'll have wifi 7 and this will be irrelevant. If you want to use an old fashioned cable, buy an android phone.

For large workloads, this just isn't sufficient.

I shoot with a Q2 and Q2M (47.3MP), my workflow includes connecting my camera(s) to my iPad and transfer over photos I'd like to edit right away, this is intentionally limited because this is very slow and inefficient with 85MB+ files. Selecting them individually, waiting for the transfer, etc.

When I am ready to move everything into Lightroom, I use an SD reader on my iPad or Mac to transfer them. Speed is a concern, but this is really a workflow issue. If I have 100s of 48MP Raw files, you will run into limits and efficiency problems transferring via AirDrop or even iCloud files.

"Old fashioned" has nothing to do with this, there are use cases that are better served with physical transfers.

Now, if Apple makes it super easy to manage these Raw photos via WiFi that would be one thing but it isn't good today.

 

[nvmls]

Also… simply changing to connector to USB-C won’t ensure faster data speeds, there are some USB-C devices and cables that still limit to 2.0 speeds.

Sure, but the courage-meter would be off the charts!

 

[usagora]

Airdrop is a seriously great protocol, and if people (like myself) want a portless iPhone they better get used to it!


Airdrop uses a Wi-Fi Direct connection between your two devices, and should be much faster than usb 2.0 speeds. It is for me, on an iPhone 13 Pro.

Yep, I use Airdrop all the time and it's very fast, even for large video files. I've never understood al the weeping and gnashing of teeth about the Lightning port on this forum.

 

[VuvuzelaiPhone]

EVERY year, the internet decides on some issue (generally pointless, sometimes wrong, always irrelevant) to be THE focal complaint point against that year's new Apple devices.

For a while it looked like eSIM was going to be the winner, but in a surprise last minute upset, this year it appears to be USB-2 speeds!

Stay tuned. There's plenty more stupidity ahead.
What will be wrong with the new AirPods Pro? Just how dumb will be the complaints against the new iPads? Remember, it doesn't count as an internet complaint unless it
- comes from someone who has never owned an Apple product
- but insists that they would buy all of them if this one small thing were fixed

Apple is the one that decided to stick a 48MP sensor in the phone. To do so with what seems to be little consideration for those that may want to use it as intended is indeed a bad decision.

The presence of criticism that may be unwarranted or overblown isn't a defense for any criticism.

Discuss it on the merits of the issue, not some generic defense of Apple.

 

[VuvuzelaiPhone]

Yep, I use Airdrop all the time and it's very fast, even for large video files. I've never understood al the weeping and gnashing of teeth about the Lightning port on this forum.

"I'll never understand people who have a different need than I."

Typical crap from Apple defenders.

They aren't going to give you a medal you know. You can listen to others to understand their perspective, for that I would give you a medal. I'll start with a bronze. 🥉

 

[usagora]

"Just use AirDrop"
*AirDrop almost never works as advertised

Works 95% of the time for me 🤷🏼‍♂️ The other 5% is just a matter of trying one more time and then it works. I've literally never had it fail as a transfer method, whether I'm air-dropping a few pics or lots of HD videos.

Edit: and apparently some people find it hilarious for some reason. Guess I fail to see the humor in simply reporting the facts 🤔

 

[bmustaf]

Yep, I use Airdrop all the time and it's very fast, even for large video files. I've never understood al the weeping and gnashing of teeth about the Lightning port on this forum.

You are an n of 1, there are many people, especially professionals (remember, "Pro" is literally in the name of this product) who are shooting ProRes and ProRAW (yes, many professional photographers shoot with an iPhone alongside higher end kit and there are many consumers who want to shoot a max res and keep the raws to future proof their family photos who aren't pros who can benefit from a physical connection to transfer enormous files) and Airdrop doesn't actually work well for multiple files, fails nebulously (no error message, no resume, nothing), and AirDrop is also completely useless for backup/restore (good luck restoring your 1TB iPhone over WiFi 6).

If Apple wants to actually seriously go all in on wireless, they need to support modern standards (a "pro" device shipping without 6E? What a joke), but this business of both downlevel wireless and downlevel physical connectors is something that's just not defensible, even if you don't happen to need it.

 

[usagora]

I'll never understand people who have a different need than I. Typical crap from Apple defenders.

They aren't going to give you a medal you know.

Thanks for being rude for no reason. I've criticized Apple many times on this forum. But I'm not going to criticize them when they give you multiple options for transferring data and people refuse to take advantage of the faster option and opt to rant and rave about the slower one.

 

[Mkenne25861]

Even with the latest Asus 6E router and a M1 Max MBP 16, airdrop transfer speeds are still around USB 2.0 speeds with my iphone 13. I doubt the 14 is any faster here

Airdrop uses P2P wifi. Your router is not active for that activity.

 

[VuvuzelaiPhone]

Thanks for being rude for no reason. I've criticized Apple many times on this forum. But I'm not going to criticize them when they give you multiple options for transferring data and people refuse to take advantage of the faster option and opt to rant and rave about the slower one.

Imagine defending USB 2.0 in 2022.

Edit: Also, I would classify saying people are "weeping" and "gnashing" for a legitimate concern pretty rude. So I reciprocated. If that bugs you, look in the mirror.

 

[nvmls]

Apparently Airdrop is the solution guys! We must be making stuff up.

Airdrop not finding contacts - Apple Community

discussions.apple.com

Airdrop large video failed - Apple Community

discussions.apple.com

 

[usagora]

You are an n of 1, there are many people, especially professionals (remember, "Pro" is literally in the name of this product) who are shooting ProRes and ProRAW (yes, many professional photographers shoot with an iPhone alongside higher end kit and there are many consumers who want to shoot a max res and keep the raws to future proof their family photos who aren't pros who can benefit from a physical connection to transfer enormous files) and Airdrop doesn't actually work well for multiple files, fails nebulously (no error message, no resume, nothing), and AirDrop is also completely useless for backup/restore (good luck restoring your 1TB iPhone over WiFi 6).

If Apple wants to actually seriously go all in on wireless, they need to support modern standards (a "pro" device shipping without 6E? What a joke), but this business of both downlevel wireless and downlevel physical connectors is something that's just not defensible, even if you don't happen to need it.

I don't know why some of you are having issues with AirDrop, but like I told the other person, it works flawlessly like 95% of the time with me, whether I'm transferring a couple files or many. And the other 5% are just minor hiccups. And how often are you restoring your phone that the speed is a major factor? As for backups, you can transfer large files to your Mac via AirDrop and your Mac should be backed up.

Look, I couldn't care less what Apple does with Lightning vs. USB-C. I just think people are making a FAR bigger deal about this than it actually is.

 

[nvmls]

Look, I couldn't care less what Apple does with Lightning vs. USB-C.

Yea clearly you don't, but we were worried you would.

 

[usagora]

Apparently Airdrop is the solution guys! We must be making stuff up.

Airdrop not finding contacts - Apple Community

discussions.apple.com

Airdrop large video failed - Apple Community

discussions.apple.com

Yes, because I'm sure no one has ever had issues when transferring data using wires. Pick any aspect of an iPhone and you're likely to find quite a few very vocal voices online that are having an issue with it from time to time.

Yea clearly you don't, but we were worried you would.

Huh???

 

[Scottsoapbox]

Yeah, it's the RAW photos that will kill transfers, not the 8K videos.

 

[VuvuzelaiPhone]

Yes, because I'm sure no one has ever had issues when transferring data using wires. Pick any aspect of an iPhone and you're likely to find quite a few very vocal voices online that are having an issue with it from time to time.

Ah yes, issues only have merit if they reach the arbitrary number of users that complain.

This isn't even in Apple's best interest. Give people a 48MP camera in their pocket, ProRaw, and call it "Pro," then proceed to tell people they need to transfer possibly 100s of large DNG files via AirDrop.

Even without anyone complaining, you could hold the position that this is bad.

 

[usagora]

Ah yes, issues only have merit if they reach the arbitrary number of users that complain.

They may have some degree of merit, but not the same degree as issues that are rampant, obviously.

This isn't even in Apple's best interest. Give people a 48MP camera in their pocket, ProRaw, and call it "Pro," then proceed to tell people they need to transfer possibly 100s of large DNG files via AirDrop.

Now maybe I'm totally out of touch, but I'm guessing most professional photographers are still going to be using dedicated high-end DSLRs or mirrorless cameras as their main, workhorse cameras, not an iPhone. Let's not read too much into Apple's marketing verbiage.

 

[bmustaf]

I don't know why some of you are having issues with AirDrop, but like I told the other person, it works flawlessly like 95% of the time with me, whether I'm transferring a couple files or many. And the other 5% are just minor hiccups. And how often are you restoring your phone that the speed is a major factor? As for backups, you can transfer large files to your Mac via AirDrop and your Mac should be backed up.

Look, I couldn't care less what Apple does with Lightning vs. USB-C. I just think people are making a FAR bigger deal about this than it actually is.

Again n of 1. That is GREAT that is your experience, no one is disputing it or telling you yours must be like ours, so why must you insist to do that when others have different workflows, environments, and experiences?

For backups, I am talking about restoring an iPhone (e.g. when you get a new one), you cannot AirDrop backup and restore your iPhone, and even if you could, 1TB over the most modern/newest USB standard will *always* outpace even the fastest WiFi.

Maybe that isn't a big deal to you, but this is the thing about the world: there are many people out there who are not you .

 

[Scottsoapbox]

I am honestly surprised that they have remained so stubborn about moving on from Lightning. I find it disappointing that the iPhone did not move during the revision when the iPad moved to USB C.

Because Apple makes money on lighting cables and licensing.

It's not surprising that they wouldn't change until the market or regulations make them.