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iPhone 14's Emergency SOS via Satellite Feature Saves California Hiker
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Agreed.
Is the call via satellite 🛰️ feature something that I am already paying for via my Apple One monthly subscription?
It’s still up to the person to be prepared for survival in the outdoors; for this particular scenario. I haven’t changed my mind. If you are going into unforeseen circumstances you should be prepared and not be half-assed prepared. I’m sure if and when apple charges for this service there will be a reminder. If you rely on the iPhone 14 and you are deep in the wilderness and don’t renew…that is totally on you.
If you let your life insurance lapse and you die…your spouse can’t go to the insurance company and work out a deal to pay the premium after the fact.
Since you (currently) don't have to pay for the Apple Emergency SOS via Satellite service, I guess that means you are the product? Isn't that what you and some others like to argue when something is "free"? YOU ARE THE PRODUCT.
- iCloud 5gb free - you’re the product
- Siri included free - you’re the product
- AT+ free for a period of time - you’re the product
- google free - you’re the product
Is that the argument?
An excellent video of how Garmin saved this hiker's life and how search and rescue were complete ass-hats about it.
I wont deny that it feels like a tiny amount of that scenario might have been staged for the sake of the video/demonstration. However, S/R's response is less than ideal.
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Solar conductor, but that’s ok if you don’t like science 🤔https://www.energy.gov/eere/solar/solar-photovoltaic-cell-basicsI don’t think that’s how conductivity works.
I don’t make the argument. The argument you and some others that have made is that when various products or service are offered for "free", it means you are the product which is a bad thing.
And yet the tweets shared just below that said she injured her ankle and nothing about breaking a leg.
Wow, many of these comments are so disappointing.
A feature like this in an ubiquitous device like the iPhone should be celebrated, not derided.
Yes, many other devices have saved lives, but that is neither here nor there.
Apple though to put this in their devices and then went ahead and did so. Give credit where it is due.
"...whoever saves one life saves the world entire"
A feature like this in an ubiquitous device like the iPhone should be celebrated, not derided.
Yes, many other devices have saved lives, but that is neither here nor there.
Apple though to put this in their devices and then went ahead and did so. Give credit where it is due.
"...whoever saves one life saves the world entire"
No, you took the argument to a ridiculous level. In that vein, google is a service, the others are features and functions of a phones operating system and hardware.
Like notepad comes for free with windows…you’re the product?
Man, that guy is a whiner. I don’t blame the search and rescue. I have been on multiple search and rescues. This kid was not lost. He was not injured, and he was entirely mobile. In the end, they hiked out that same night AFTER he set up camp claiming he couldn’t make it out.
I think the kid should get charged.
Folks always assume a chopper is coming. If you are mobile and not injured, they will not send a chopper. Period. Which then requires someone to drive in - which usually they can’t, or for you to be carried out. And that’s just hilarious - I’ve seen a couple >2 mile carries before but you have a dozen or more rescuers.
I think this guy somehow has his risk meter messed up. He is willing to go do this trek alone and rations meals etc knowing it’s bad, but won’t hike out - or even attempt a .5 mile hike out when he has a rescue team right there. He risked his gps battery dying, he risked running out of food, he risked the rescue team leaving and coming back by trying to stay the night. And don’t tell me he couldn’t find the trail. You don’t need to. Hike up in switchbacks. You couldn’t have missed the road. It followed the whole ridge.
I’m embarrassed for the kid.
I’m not complaining about your post. I appreciate it. But yea, that’s about what you could expect if you hit the sos button and are .5 miles from a team, mobile, and decide to set up camp instead of rescuing yourself. He was smart to hit the button. But he was a fool when someone answered.
The kid said it would take 2 days… I mean really. I could go on… but I won’t
For sure on that.
But in this situation an Apple product is involved...which gives many here an opportunity to deride, in order to get that tiny burst of feel-good power, sticking it to the Man.
It's not taking it to a ridiculous level at all. Google, MS and others provide products/services for free which you and others have argued meant YOU ARE THE PRODUCT. If you feel Apple is offering Emergency SOS via Satellite for free then in similar fashion YOU ARE THE PRODUCT.
To add, as someone with EMS experience, chopper rescues can literally be dangerous for crews - and choppers and crews are limited resources to begin with. Deploying the equipment and people when not necessary both is an unnecessary risk and can cause a resource issue if a call where they *are* needed comes in while they're doing the BS run.
This guy comes across exactly the same way patients of mine have complained when they thought that calling for an ambulance for a non-emergency would get them seen faster than going to the ER without EMS and then get angry when the intake nurse has us wheel them into the ER waiting room.
See if they were holding out for USB C or a foldable model they would be dead now.
There is a lesson here.
There is a lesson here.
I completely agree people should be prepared. All I’m saying is when there’s the ability to speed up a search for a missing person and move on to someone else (who is missing due to circumstance they couldn’t have prepared for) it seems like that should be utilized. There must be a way to bill someone for the service at a much higher rate than if they had paid prior to setting out. But another alternative would be to lower the priority of unprepared people on the missing person list to ensure those who are missing due to circumstances they couldn’t have prepared for are given the majority of resources.
There’s a year and a few months until supposedly subscription is required. We’ll see what happens then. I’m sure apple has this sorted, one way or another.
Is apple serving up ads with your satellite data? Is apples basic revenue model based on selling ads with your PII. Or is apples revenue based on selling hardware and aervices? With apple my iPhone, or iPad or AirPods is the product not me.
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Nope. Not even close.
Google, MS, etc offer free services because they're able to sell information about the users of that service to other companies for marketing purposes. Thus, you are the product that has value to those purchasing that information from Google and others.
Yes, Apple does offer free services. But they don't sell your information to other companies - thus you are not a product.
As an example... if you are wounded and lost in the woods, and use Apple's free Emergency SOS system to summon help, Apple does not sell information about you being wounded and lost in the woods to companies that might want to purchase that information for marketing, say, to sell outdoor fist aid kits via ads. Thus you are not a product.
Think it through.
My guess is that they'll charge $1.99 a month and eventually roll it into Apple One. It will become just another feature of the iPhone.
Yep I’m guessing if you don’t pay up you dont get emergency access to the service. It’s probably won’t be like 911.