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I think its time for apple to move on to higher charging speeds 15w and 25w is getting to be a bit out dated now this look at most android phones now days they can do between 50w to 80w charging speed time for apple to speed up the paces
I don't think you can do over 25W wireless charger without a built in fan, some people are wary about charging at 15W using wireless technology as it is
 
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Magsafe is wireless, most people charge at 7.5W wireless charger on Android as most qi wireless chargers are, qi2 will be a step-up for qi charging across the board besides some Chinese mostly brands have for those phones, those charges are expensive. Qi2 is expected to be a more affordable option for everyone
 
Meanwhile on Aliexpress you can find MagSafe like charger with built in AW charger and 1m usb-c cable 😅

So maybe that’s the future of Apple charging.

Ok this made me remember a dumb question I’ve had for a while. My AirPods Pro charge nicely from my MagSafe iPhone cable and MagSafe battery. Is it possible that someday, current or future Apple Watches would be able to do so, too? Or do they just use a fundamentally different type of charging system? Currently on the road and it would be pretty nice to not have to carry the Watch charger and just charge from my iPhone cable…
 
Gonna be real funny to see the EU freak out over different USB-C charging speeds on the iPhone 15 line, when the same phone simultaneously gets unrestricted 15W wireless charging on non-approved chargers. Any lawsuits they dream up over it will be laughed out of court.
 
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Gonna be real funny to see the EU freak out over different USB-C charging speeds on the iPhone 15 line, when the same phone simultaneously gets unrestricted 15W wireless charging on non-approved chargers. Any lawsuits they dream up over it will be laughed out of court.
Not necessarily in a European court. American companies are increasingly finding that out the hard way.
 
Ok this made me remember a dumb question I’ve had for a while. My AirPods Pro charge nicely from my MagSafe iPhone cable and MagSafe battery. Is it possible that someday, current or future Apple Watches would be able to do so, too? Or do they just use a fundamentally different type of charging system? Currently on the road and it would be pretty nice to not have to carry the Watch charger and just charge from my iPhone cable…
Part of the Qi2 standard enabled charging of devices that aren’t completely flat, so very well could be possible with the next Apple Watch. Not sure if that is apples limitation or not, but I’m hopeful…
 
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Haha exactly! 15w charging in 2023 is an absolute travesty.
It's wireless charging. Speed is perfectly fine for any year in any lifetime (imo, of course). I don't even want it that fast. I have a 5 watt brick attached to my wireless charger. I don't need to exacerbate the heat or inefficiency of wireless charging and it's perfect for giving me little boosts when need it.

Even wired charging I don't go beyond 20 watts max. Im obsessive about battery health and less waste and its just how I operate.

But everyone needs to do what works for them. You want to fire up your phone with 40 plus watt wireless charging, knock yourself out. I don't want any part of it.
 
Gonna be real funny to see the EU freak out over different USB-C charging speeds [...] Any lawsuits they dream up over it will be laughed out of court.
You apparently don't understand how EU works. You don't understand it's fundamentals.

EU has its own court, they don't bring it to some other court lol. EU makes it's own rules, if Apple does not comply, bye bye EU market and its money. Different charging speeds is simply not going to happen. Keep dreaming American citizen.
 
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Different charging speeds is simply not going to happen. Keep dreaming American citizen.
Different charging speeds happens today on a wide variety of USB-C devices. If a cable doesn’t have the required authentication chip to deliver, say 30w, then that device will automatically fall back to 12w. It’s part of the USB standard.
 
Different charging speeds happens today on a wide variety of USB-C devices. If a cable doesn’t have the required authentication chip to deliver, say 30w, then that device will automatically fall back to 12w. It’s part of the USB standard.
Exactly! I find it amazing how many people talk about the USB standard like it is a single definitive standard, without realizing how non-standard it actually is, even within a single generation. I have several different USB-C cables, each with a different combination of signalling rate and PD levels. It is great that they have consolidated different cable specifications and have a single connector, but the various protocols take that simplification and suddenly turn it into something even more complicated. It is great that everything “pretty much” works, but weird when you throw in something like a VR headset that requires a higher transfer speed, find the correct cable, and then realize you’ve been getting a lower than top speed for everything else up to that point. I tend to follow this stuff, so I knew what I was getting into, but I was still surprised that I found myself experimenting more than I expected to find the correct cable. It could be a single standard with Thunderbolt cable as the standard for USB-C, but it is overkill for most things, so almost no one would want to pay the extra cost.
 
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A warning to NOT take the plunge this year;

That’s hilarious! It’s hard enough to make a decision after a phone has actually shipped and real reviews exist, let alone based on a rumour months before shipment, especially when Apple is intentionally poisoning the rumour well. The hyperbole doesn’t help either, unless the couple of features he couldn’t reveal are that Apple designed it to catch fire and explode.
 
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Different charging speeds happens today on a wide variety of USB-C devices. If a cable doesn’t have the required authentication chip to deliver, say 30w, then that device will automatically fall back to 12w. It’s part of the USB standard.
That's part of the standard and that's all right.
What would not be all right is MFi limitation.
 
That's part of the standard and that's all right.
What would not be all right is MFi limitation.
I actually agree with you. The funny part about this is it is all based on a rumour, and for all we know Apple could simply be following the e-chip standard, which is actually what I thought when I read the first rumour. I enjoy rumours, which is why I’m on this site, but I don’t understand why people draw conclusions on them without waiting for facts.

Edit: Just to clarify, I thought they would still offer MFi licensing, but only if the cable had an e-chip. That way any MFi cable would be guaranteed e-chip. MFi or non-MFi e-chip would both work at high power, MFi would just be recognized branding, basic USB-C cable would be slower, and nothing is actually non-standard to complain about. Regular consumer can just look for MFi so they don’t have to worry, techies can use their e-chip cables, and you can use an old, slow stock USB-C in an emergency.
 
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Nothing wrong with using a wired charger in your case or if you want to charge faster or with less heat
kinda true, but:
- usb ports are hidden in a closed compartment, absolutely out of sight, facing backwards with no clear indication where to search for them
- the only place where you can store your phone in that godforsaken box on wheels also doubles as a wireless charger - and i am not sure whether i can disable wireless charging on either side
- wireless charging is a horribly inefficient way to charge anything, as roughly 35-40% percent of the energy is converted to heat. i know, it's just 7.5W, so it is ~2.5W power that it's getting wasted. but multiply this by 1 billion and that's a big number for absolutely nothing in exchange.
 
Exactly! I find it amazing how many people talk about the USB standard like it is a single definitive standard, without realizing how non-standard it actually is, even within a single generation. I have several different USB-C cables, each with a different combination of signalling rate and PD levels. It is great that they have consolidated different cable specifications and have a single connector, but the various protocols take that simplification and suddenly turn it into something even more complicated. It is great that everything “pretty much” works, but weird when you throw in something like a VR headset that requires a higher transfer speed, find the correct cable, and then realize you’ve been getting a lower than top speed for everything else up to that point. I tend to follow this stuff, so I knew what I was getting into, but I was still surprised that I found myself experimenting more than I expected to find the correct cable. It could be a single standard with Thunderbolt cable as the standard for USB-C, but it is overkill for most things, so almost no one would want to pay the extra cost.

? Maybe I am missing something.
All current USB C cables I buy are 100W 10GB rated (or better) allowing me to use them pretty much anything I have with USB C. Unless you are buying 4th market, they are labeled and you should know what you are getting.
 
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It's wireless charging. Speed is perfectly fine for any year in any lifetime (imo, of course). I don't even want it that fast. I have a 5 watt brick attached to my wireless charger. I don't need to exacerbate the heat or inefficiency of wireless charging and it's perfect for giving me little boosts when need it.

Even wired charging I don't go beyond 20 watts max. Im obsessive about battery health and less waste and its just how I operate.

But everyone needs to do what works for them. You want to fire up your phone with 40 plus watt wireless charging, knock yourself out. I don't want any part of it.
Time is our most valuable asset, and I'll never waste mine charging a cell phone. Charging speed is key for me. I couldn't care less about heat or battery health, as I buy (outright, not finance) a new phone every year, sometimes two.
 
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