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Like I said - if you don’t like doing that then don’t do it, but not providing the option is stupid.
I'm not sure about that, but that's neither here nor there. I haven't seen proof that it extends the life of the battery significantly. I know my older batteried devices really don't show much difference either way. There's a lot of factors at play in that calculation. It seems letting it get to 0% often makes a much bigger difference. (to me, of course, anecdotal evidence).

And if it confuses some, well, that's a human factor.
 
So limit your runtime to get longer runtimes, yeah, that makes sense.

It’s not about limiting so much as strategically using charge capacity only when it is needed. Some of us do not use 100% of the battery capacity on most days. Often significantly less so that 80% would be more than enough. Other times we do want the full capacity.

Using this feature lets us keep the battery out of the wear zone on normal days and preserve maximum charge levels though an overall longer battery life.

I am not missing out on charge levels using this. I don’t use more than 80% on most week days. I do tend to use more on weekends. If I keep the phone plugged in and charged to 100% during the weekdays that will contribute to a permanent drop on capacity which would impact my weekend use. I could try to manually monitor the phone when it is plugged in and unplug it when it gets to 80% but that is hard to manage and more work than I want to put into this. This feature just helps do that automatically when I need it to.
 
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Same goes for an iPhone used for long CarPlay drives.

The combination of heat and staying at 100% for hours is not good for batteries.

Again - it’s just part of the battery chemistry we have to deal with.

Having options for those situations is a good thing.

If you don’t like the option don’t use it.
Agreed, including the fact I will probably rarely use it, but its existence has validity.

And for those that think longevity is just battery lottery - to a small extent there are variations, sure. But at the end it’s all chemistry. You won’t ever have a battery that will last 3x vs the average. Plus or minus a few percentage points, sure.
Assuming that was directed at me, I never said “just.” My evidence is personal experience but unlogged, so I will leave that out.

Furthermore, your collective source (BU-808) has disclaimers that are more like flaws — not to discredit all of their testing. For example:

Figure 8 extrapolates the data from Figure 6 to expand the predicted cycle life of Li-ion by using an extrapolation program that assumes linear decay of battery capacity with progressive cycling. If this were true, then a Li-ion battery cycled within 75%–25% SoC (blue) would fade to 74% capacity after 14,000 cycles. If this battery were charged to 85% with same depth-of-discharge (green), the capacity would drop to 64% at 14,000 cycles, and with a 100% charge with same DoD (black), the capacity would drop to 48%. For unknown reasons, real-life expectancy tends to be lower than in simulated modeling.
So… Your model doesn’t work? More so, it shows that degradation is non-linear and much more difficult, if not impossible, to predict.

And immediately before the conclusion, “What Can Users Do?”:

The cycle count on DST (dynamic stress test) differs with battery type, charge time, loading protocol and operating temperature. Lab tests often get numbers that are not attainable in the field.
Again, very difficult to accurately measure and not (well) predictable.

I haven't seen proof that it extends the life of the battery significantly. I know my older batteried devices really don't show much difference either way. There's a lot of factors at play in that calculation.
Exactly. Of the factors:

Charge, discharge, current state of charge, and other variables are fairly well monitored and handled by the power management system, which includes communication with a — for perhaps lack of a better word — microcontroller embedded in the battery pack (what Battery University refers to as a “smart battery”). With occasional recalibration, there’s not much more the user must/should do.

On the other hand, temperature awareness is a necessary warning. Why? The device (e.g., iPhone) has limits controlling that factor. Indeed, the power management system can temporarily stop providing a charge when the battery pack/internal device temperature exceeds a threshold or to prevent overcharging. However, for example, it’s mostly up to the user to ensure the device is not subjected to improper temperature. For example:

The interior of a car can get very hot, especially when parked in the sun. Experiments have shown that temperatures inside a closed vehicle can quickly exceed 125 °F (about 52 °C). Even on a cooler day, the temperature inside a vehicle can reach 100F in 25 minutes. The surfaces inside the car, such as steering wheels, dashboards and seat covers, can get even hotter than the air.
Source 1, 2, 3

Whether the system stops charging or is completely shut down/off, the device, including battery, will be exposed to a damagingly high temp.
 
Very surprising feature coming from Apple. it's almost like admitting failure (we can't figure out how to make your battery last).
All lithium batteries wear over time. It happens a tiny amount when you charge it. How it is charged has ant least some affect on the rate of wear. Apple offers a couple of strategies that its users can choose to help reduce this wear. Or users can live with the wear and either eventually replace the battery or the whole phone. Apple recognizing the physical reality of current technology is not admitting a failure. Other phone makers also give advise or offer similar solutions to their customers to help slow down the wear. Does this surprise you?
 
First setting I activated once my 15 Pro Max was delivered yesterday. This is by far the best change in iOS from the last years!
If they now only could change it in a slider I would even set it to 70%.
 
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Charging more often between something like 40-60% or 60-80% is better for the battery than fewer charges of 0-100%.

Ideally, keeping it at 50% is best but that’s too low for my comfort. 80% on regular days is much better for my peace of mind going up to 100% when I need to be out and about.
Thx. Just enabled this new feature on my 15pro 👍
 
Wait, you guys got iPhone 15? 😂

I’ve ordered the 15 Pro Max 9 minutes after the pre-order started (because Apple didn’t let me access the site earlier) and now I have to wait until October 3rd. 😒
 
Why? If the concern is so great and the batteries that fragile we have bigger issues. Bubble wrapping your battery appears to be an Apple only issue atm.
Bubble wrapping your cell battery is the same as bubble wrapping your EV battery. Today I can bubble wrap both my EV and cell phone battery …. and I love it.
 
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I’d find this feature easier to work with if it were easier to override. As it stands now, it’s Home / Settings / Battery / Battery Health & Charging / Charging Optimization -> choose your charge mode. That’s six interactions.

Ideally, I’d like to have some UI, perhaps on the Lock Screen, to let you override the 80% limit one time until disconnected, for when you want to top off.

A close second option would be to have a 3-state charge mode toggle in Control Center.

Fallback option? Tell us what the prefs URL is for the Charging Optimization subpage, and we can at least create a shortcut to reduce the navigation.
 
I can barely get by with 100% of the charge on a 14 pro max, and even then I sometimes need to charge during day for it to stay alive until I get back home. I'm ok with this kind of settings when they put in a battery that can reliably survive a full day with just 80%.

Then again, I see little to no reason to buy any pro/pro max device at this point. They cost more than a laptop and are not even close to being worth it. I guess I'll try to get by with a SE in the future. Maybe it's useless enough so I won't burn through the battery quite as fast.
 
I think you misunderstood my intent.
Only Apple is going to these lengths to "prolong" battery lifespan and device battery life. Not really sure as to Apple's strategy. Let's say that the result to date has been less than "optimal".

Besides my Apple stuff, I currently have 5 (3 mine and 2 I gifted to family) Android devices active, some with better battery life/health than my 13PM, some worse. All kinds of charging / use styles. What has Apple so concerned? Or is this just another marketing point.

This feels like an Apple battery iteration of "hypermiling".
It’s a great feature. I already try to keep my battery limit to 60%, or 80% if I’m leaving the house. My battery health is at 96% on my 13 Pro Max.
 
why doesn't the watch have this?? or ipad??
The Watch has Optimized Charging which is an automated charging strategy that tries to adjust the charging process to only get to 100% just before you need it. It's a very different way of dealing with the same issue. The problem with the Watch is that the battery capacity is so limited that very few people could get by with only 80% on most days. The phones have enough capacity that many people use less than 80% on typical days.

iPads should have this. They are often used plugged in at home and could use a little help avoiding spending so much time at 100%. Perhaps they will add it at some point.
 
If you insist, perhaps in a more serious tone, they will do it. I don't encourage Karening out, but just insist that you want it.
I'm in Turkey and I don't think they'd replace it even at 80%. and this hell of a battery gets down to 85% so fast and then holds on to its dear life until getting down to 80%.
 
My 15 Pro Max doesn't respect this setting anymore. Each time I put it on a charger or connect car-play the battery gets charged to 100%.
Deactivating and re-activating, hard restart does not solve it for me.
Anyone else seen this behavior?
 
My 15 Pro Max doesn't respect this setting anymore. Each time I put it on a charger or connect car-play the battery gets charged to 100%.
Deactivating and re-activating, hard restart does not solve it for me.
Anyone else seen this behavior?

From Apple:

"With 80% Limit enabled, your iPhone will occasionally charge to 100 percent to maintain accurate battery state-of-charge estimates."

Maybe that's the culprit?

🤔

 
I've read that line before here. But why does it do it every time? Makes no sense.

Edit: been thinking. Could be since the 17.1 dev release. Maybe they screwed something up there.
 
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