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How long before non-iPhone 15 users get together and file a class action lawsuit against Apple for allowing older iPhone batteries to degrade faster?

#iPhoneBatteryGate2

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Feel free to start one and enjoy your $27 in 2031 when its paid out.
 
Somewhat amusing that Apple keeps upping the iPhone cost yet keep removing things or advising to use your phone less at the same time.

*Screentime so you phone can tell you you’re using it too much.
*Headphones + Headphone jack gone.
*Charging plug gone.
*Now pretty much asking you to not even bother to charge your phone all the way up.

At this rate, they’ll remove the USB-C cable next. You’ll just get the phone and the Box. Wouldn’t even shock me if they remove the battery completely and sell that separately some point down the road 😂
 
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This is the most ridiculous thing to gatekeep to the newest iPhone.

Also I am unsure as to their intentions to add this altogether. Maybe they recognize the battery deterioration issues of the 14 line?
 
Would be nice if when plugged in an icon became available to override 80% in situations where you know you’ll need more post charge. I plug in irregularly so the smart charging doesn’t work as well in my use case.

Limiting this to the 15 only makes me want to upgrade with less frequency.

~meh apple~
 
The charging circuit can run independently of the OS, which is why you can charge with the phone off.
This new 80% hard limit likely required a change to the charging circuitry so that it will work. = new hardware
How does it pause at 80% on the 14 if it’s a hardware issue..? Maybe just permanent pause at 80% if that needs to be the distinction… Hahahaha!
 
Standby mode ( new night clock feature) does to stay on all the time. It stays on for about 30 seconds and then turns off. It is activated by motion.

Motion of what? The phone or a person in front of the phone?

If it's turning off, that seems to be the opposite of what I understood it to be.
 
By how much though?

If I go a year with this 20-80 cap, how much better is my battery going to be than someone who goes 0-100?

Answers on a postcard please?
Scientific sources only.

Many thanks!
Well I could tell you that after a year of going to 100 every day on my 14PM it’s down to 91% health…. Which is not normal. Now I don’t know if that’s due to a defect in the 14PM battery specifically or what. But I have to imagine 15 results will be better…. I guess we’ll find out next year
 
Maybe others have responded with this already but not everyone uses 100% battery. So if you’re usually only using less than 80% anyway, might as well save some unnecessary battery wear.
Why would you voluntarily limit your battery to 80% health to prevent it from dropping to 80% health after years of use?

Why wouldn’t you just let your phone be and then maybe turn this on at 85% battery health whenever that happens to lengthen battery life then?

And on a tangent, Why doesn’t apple offer battery saving mode as a toggle switch you can leave on rather than automatically disengaging it after the battery charges?
 
IMHO, one should not worry so much about battery life and longevity. Use your phone the way you want to and enjoy the hell out of it. Have an extra charger at work, in your car or wherever. When the battery gets too sucky after years of use, replace it.

I have a 12 Pro Max that I’ve had since launch day and never babied it when it comes to charging other than optimized charging being turned on. I run the battery down almost completely every day then charge it fully overnight. I may top up the battery here and there during the day if I need to, but that only happens about two days a week. I’ve been using a MagSafe charger for almost a year and a half now exclusively. Battery health is at 85%. If it had gotten much lower than this, I would’ve replaced the battery by now.

We pay a lot of money for these phones and the last thing I wanna do is spend time thinking about exactly when to charge it and to take it off the charger. I let the software do that for me and I charge it when I need to.
 
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Why would you not want to be at 100% charged when on a road trip?

ex:
for the What If... car trouble,
a long night out after the car journey,
etc?

If it's plugged in the entire time during the car ride anyway, it'll stay at ~80% for the entire trip.

Anyway, it's an optional feature so up to you whether you want to use it or not depending on your needs and usage.

Me, my iPhone's on a Qi wireless charging dock for like 9 hours at the office everyday so I'm enabling this feature (if it ever makes its way to older models like my SE3 that is).
 
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This feature should be on every single device that has a lithium battery. (period) That includes airpods, iPads, Macs, and all the things made by all the other companies that are not Apple.
Just wanted to inform you that Apple did not invent this feature. In fact Samsung has had this feature for about 5 years on their phones and tablets.
 
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Finally. Why isn’t this on all iOS devices? especially iPad

ofc we know the answer. Planned obsolescence, and only on 15 to force you to upgrade
 
A feature I most certainly won’t be turning on.

I’m going to prevent myself from using the full capacity of the battery from day one, because I’m afraid that after years of regular use I might not be able to use the full capacity of the battery?


On what planet does THAT make sense??

These devices are made to be used.

By the time my battery becomes degraded enough to the point that it’s actually affecting my life; I will either just replace the battery (cheap and there are about a hundred kiosks at the mall who can do it) or I will already have moved onto another iPhone model by that point.
 
Are Apple's claims of battery life on the iPhone 15 models based on a battery that is charged to 100%, or to 80%?

Rhetorical question of course.

So you only get the claimed battery life if you charge the battery to 100% and risk decreasing the longevity of your battery.
 
Why would you voluntarily limit your battery to 80% health to prevent it from dropping to 80% health after years of use?

Why wouldn’t you just let your phone be and then maybe turn this on at 85% battery health whenever that happens to lengthen battery life then?

It's too late if you wait until battery degrades to 85%.

I'm a very light phone user and when I first get my iPhone, it usually just drops 15-30% per day (mostly on standby). After a year of use (87% battery health), it drops 50-80% per day.
 
Apple didn't mention this, but do you know that iPhone 15 now supports 'handshake charging'?

What it means. If you and your mom both have iPhone 15, and yours has 70% battery while your mom has 9%, you can charge your mom phone with your phone by the USB-C. The phones will do initial handshake and ask which one has lower battery, and that will be the one charged - till both phones sit at roughly the same percentage.

I wonder if it would work too with non-handshake phone like if you connect 15 with Samsung?
 
Finally, I’ve been wanting this feature forever! Now bring it to macOS so I don’t have to use Al Dente to do the same thing.
 
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