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iPhone 15 with lightning port sealed up in Europe?

  • Apple should do this.

    Votes: 16 21.3%
  • Apple might do this to be jerks, but it is wrong.

    Votes: 8 10.7%
  • You are being paranoid, Apple knows better than to do that.

    Votes: 51 68.0%

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Algr

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Jul 27, 2022
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I just had a worrying thought. In "accordance" with European law, Apple might ship iPhone 15 with lightning for the rest of the world, but then seal up the port for sales in Europe. This would be technically in accordance with European law while unleashing a worldwide blaming bitchfest with corporate shills everywhere pretending that Apple had no choice.

Is there any risk of this happening? Or am I just being paranoid.
 

mebehere

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Sep 21, 2012
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He's talking about a new EU law requiring all smartphones or devices to USB-C as its primary mode of charging.

I hate wireless charging. It wastes energy.

I kinda understood. But the wording made my head spin.

I‘ll say this much. I HATE the sound my iPad Pro makes when I unplug it from its USB-C port. It’s like metal on metal. It sounds like I’m breaking something.

I know everyone wants USB-C, but Lightning is so gentle and smooth. Unpopular opinion, I know.
 

JPack

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Mar 27, 2017
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Apple would save on component costs and earn revenue from mandatory MagSafe wireless charging. What's not to like?
 

Algr

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Jul 27, 2022
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Almost nothing wireless works well. I went through several bluetooth headphones before going back to wired. Controlling my DJI camera from my phone is very slow to connect and quits at critical moments. Transmitting wirelessly from my phone to my TV comes out looking like VHS. And "wireless" charging means a wire with a giant circular port.
 
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Well, the EU regulation is not against Lightening as such, but for USB-C. So forcing EU users to use wireless charging will not help Apple in any way, as the EU would still require that USB-C port.

Selling iPhones with the Lightening port “sealed” will not help the above either and will make the IPSW updates and restore processes impossible.

Finally, Apple have already confirmed they would have to comply with the EU “USB-C” law and will have to gradually switch their entire product line over. It’s not such a big deal, they have done it before with their 30-pin connectors to Lightening.

I say no worries. 🖐️
 

Algr

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Jul 27, 2022
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Finally, Apple have already confirmed they would have to comply with the EU “USB-C” law and will have to gradually switch their entire product line over. It’s not such a big deal, they have done it before with their 30-pin connectors to Lightening.
I recall that their response was very narrowly worded as "We will comply with the law", not "We will use usb-c". So I was worried that they may try to use that as a technicality.
 

JPack

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Mar 27, 2017
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Well, the EU regulation is not against Lightening as such, but for USB-C. So forcing EU users to use wireless charging will not help Apple in any way, as the EU would still require that USB-C port.

EU doesn't require USB-C port if the device is incapable of wired charging.

Selling iPhones with the Lightening port “sealed” will not help the above either and will make the IPSW updates and restore processes impossible.

Consider how a MacBook with Apple Silicon performs an Internet recovery. iPhone would be exactly the same. Apple has been testing Internet recovery for iPhone since iOS 13.
 

JapanApple

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Sep 16, 2022
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Well, the EU regulation is not against Lightening as such, but for USB-C. So forcing EU users to use wireless charging will not help Apple in any way, as the EU would still require that USB-C port.

I say no worries. 🖐️
This is where people are not reading this right. He is right. ty for explaining
 
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Paddle1

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May 1, 2013
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As mentioned earlier the iPhone 15 doesn't even need a USB-C port. This rule comes into effect for products released after Dec 2024 so even the iPhone 16 could have Lightning with the regular September schedule. iPhone 15 having USB-C is really Apple's choice.
 
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EU doesn't require USB-C port if the device is incapable of wired charging.



Consider how a MacBook with Apple Silicon performs an Internet recovery. iPhone would be exactly the same. Apple has been testing Internet recovery for iPhone since iOS 13.

I still think that wired charging beats wireless and am somewhat biased as I would need yet another dongle to make my wired CarPlay work. 😋
 
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