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The haptic doesn’t work when you have cold hands or are wearing gloves.

The non-haptic button of the 6s was always much more reliable for me under a larger variety of conditions.
It’s certainly a trade-off. It’s never seemed a serious drawback for me I always found using a phone to be annoying with gloves on anyway (no Touch ID in the old days, less reliable touchscreen, etc), and that was the case, haptic buttons or not.

But I don’t tend to use my phone outdoors in the cold anyway a great deal anyway - I’m sure others with different lifestyles and home climates have different experiences.
 
You can still have a case cover the buttons and have it work, I would think. Just make the inside of the case where the buttons are capacitive.
 
How many people already use the screen to change the volume on iOS raise their hands?
LOL
I like buttons though, I do feel they messed up on the iPad Pro the previous gen 5 iPad Pro did it right where the volume turned up or down depending or your orientation, this version it’s all jacked up and confusing, massive learning curve indeed I have no choice but to use the screen anyways.
 
None of these rumors specify if they’re also planning on removing the vibrate/ring switch like they did on the iPad.

That would be a mistake. It’s nice to be able to silence the phone without looking at the screen.

As far as the power and volume buttons, I could care less so long as it feels the same and doesn’t use more battery life.
Seems like adding two Taptic engines would be sacrificing significant battery space. And not sure how well we’re going to be able to use these buttons with gloves. I’ve used 3 iPhones for an average of 4 years each, and never had a single issue with button failure. I don’t see how this change is for my benefit. The only thing I can think of is marginally better water resistance. But potential good seems to be greatly outweighed by potential bad. But we’ll see, I guess.
 
Boooooooooo.

Hated it on the 7 series and up. Made my joints hurt.

I've seen this tried on 2 HTC communicator style Windows Smartphone SE/PocketPC models and it was hit/miss - a decade+ prior to today.

I see this implementation as being a MAJOR issue for those with physical limitations unless accessibility is ROCK SOLID through & through.
 
No thanks, I’d like to be able to force DFU/Recovery if needed instead of having to go to the Apple store to fix something I should be able to do at home.
I remember my first iPod was the that had the four touch buttons and holding a combo of them would allow you to do a full reset when it froze. I'm assuming you be able to do that with the iPhone if it moves to touch volume controls as well.
 
This sounds like another great innovation like the MacBook touchbar. We all know how successful that was! /s
 
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I dont like this to be overused. I hated the feel of it when they did it with the Touch ID button. Also I like to be able to adjust volume in a case. Will they still work or will all cases have to have holes where the buttons are?
 
iPhone Pro line is starting to be the experimental line. First forcing the use of eSIM, now this.

Both could be fine in time, but it’s a damn bold move to experiment on your best customers.

Notice I didn’t include Dynamic Island, as mixed as my feelings are about it I consider that to be a user facing at least attempt at innovation.

I can’t help but see removal of SIM slot and physical buttons as being more in Apple’s interest than anyone else’s.

Just as when removal of the SIM slot was rumored, people had a lot of questions that Apple boldly ignored and proclaimed that we no longer “have to” use SIM cards.

But they do need a solution for DFU and other cases. Maybe not everyone technically needs a physical SIM but everyone needs volume and power buttons. I hope they don’t just ignore those concerns as well. It doesn’t come up often but is Apple going to pretend that no one ever has to force reset their phone anymore? Are they really going to dedicate hardware to keeping those buttons alive in event of total system failure when they could have just used physical connections?
 
One wonders if this will be like when Apple changed to the haptic Home button with the iPhone 7.

I seem to remember lots of people saying it was crazy, but then haptic feedback was actually really good to the point where it's hard to tell the difference.

Except when you’re wearing gloves. A big FU to people that want to keep their hands warm
 
All I'm saying is the Vibrate switch better not be touched or it's time to riot. Sure, it may be a riot of 1, silently grumbling about it. But I'll still call it a riot.
 
- You have to look at the button beforehand so you don’t touch the wrong one by mistake. No more adjusting volume in your pocket. The current ones are already pretty fumbly.
- You can’t adjust volume with gloves on unless you have headphones with physical controls.
- You can’t take photos with gloves on.
+ It’s solid metal.

Apparently those negatives don’t feel very big in f***n California.
 
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This would be so over-engineered. Imho, they should rather fix some bugs than wasting ressources and rare earth elements on adding another motor.

Has anyone ever had problems with the volume buttons? And, really, waterproofing? Physical buttons work fine on a waterproof watch or a gopro. I'd buy that durability argument if iphones were designed to last ten years. A solid state button would lose functionality when using gloves So it's less functionality for probably more money. Design is supposedly how it works. So this would be some kind of bad design, right?
 
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Apple analyst Ming-Chi Kuo today reiterated that iPhone 15 Pro models will be equipped with solid-state volume and power buttons, and he added that other high-end devices could follow suit in the future if the change is well received. Presumably, this would include the iPad Pro, and perhaps the Apple Watch Ultra.

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Kuo previously said iPhone 15 Pro models will be equipped with two additional Taptic Engines that provide haptic feedback when the buttons are pressed, without the buttons actually moving. This would be similar to the solid-state Home button introduced on the iPhone 7 and the Force Touch trackpad on recent MacBooks.

In a series of tweets today, Kuo noted that Cirrus Logic will benefit from the change as the supplier of Taptic Engine chips for iPhones.

Solid-state buttons on iPhones could allow for even better water resistance and would eliminate moving parts that can wear out or break over time. The standard iPhone 15 and iPhone 15 Plus are still expected to have mechanical buttons.

Apple is expected to unveil the entire iPhone 15 lineup in September as usual, so the devices are still around eight months away from launching.

Article Link: iPhone 15 Pro Again Rumored to Feature Non-Moving Volume and Power Buttons, iPad Pro Could Foll

No bueno. Cases will have to have massive cutouts to allow the user’s finger to reach the side of the phone to make contact. The problem will be especially pronounced with thicker, more protective cases. This may be a prime example of “just because you can doesn’t mean you should “.
 
Yup. Apple's own cases currently use push-through buttons and they work very nicely.
I don’t use Apple cases but the ones I use have push through buttons that work quite well also. Unfortunately that type of button will not work with these new buttons if they indeed come to pass.
 
Like how they work for the ringer switch.
So the cases will have to have cutouts large enough for your finger to reach the surface of the side of the phone and make contact. I don’t think that will work very well at all. Especially with thicker, more protective cases.
 
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