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No idea what you're even trying to say. The cost of living crisis amongst some demographics has no relation whatsoever to the highest end version of a premium smartphone.

Not looking to get into a pedantic argument with you here. But just for clarity, you replied to a post from Jimmy_banks, which stated

The average person can barely afford food and rent due to inflation, tech companies are firing workers despite record profits, Apple is holding back bonuses on it's employees.

But Tim the bean counter decides now is a good time to increase prices.

Some would argue, that the first part, could be interpreted as being vaguely related to the cost of living crisis. Your reply to Jimmy's comment was as follows

The problem with your statement is that iPhone 14 Pro sold incredibly well. Better than expected. So whether your claims are true or not, iPhone 14 Pro sold really well.

Apple bases its decision to raise prices on that, not on anecdotal comments about the current state of the economy, true or not.

My reply to you, is simply pointing out the following: His post didn't feel terribly anecdotal to me. And that your statement that apple bases its decisions to raise price on sales, feels more anecdotal than anything Jimmy had in his post.

Nowhere did I say, the cost of living crisis had anything to do with the cost of premium smartphone.
 
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Well some things of course and vice versa as America has European products too. Smartphones come from all over the world though and iPhones are a smaller segment in Europe.

I don’t live in the EU so that rather juvenile insult doesn’t apply in this instance.
I wouldn't spend too much energy on this chap, I don't think he reads with any intent to understand, he reads simply to reply. Luckily, there is an ignore functionality on here.
 
People who think $999 is an OK deal won’t think $1099 is a terrible deal and Apple knows it. No one will switch to Android because of a $100 difference.
 
Each year the new iPhone Pro has tens of thousands of Apple engineering hours spent improving it from the previous year. You of course may choose to trivialize the changes to four simplistic things for your own decision process, but you are wrong. Each new iPhone Pro is improved in scores of ways, probably hundreds.

Many of those myriad improvements may be subtle when viewed non-critically, especially in the context of comparison to the immediate past model. But the improvements are real and they do present in overall operation.

Note that I do not say everyone should buy each new phone, but I do say that the reason not to upgrade is not simplistically because it still does the same thing as the previous models. That same thing has actually changed in subtle (and sometimes unsubtle) ways. Most years since the v1 iPhone I have aggressively A-B compared old versus new in the field with friends' phones, and the newer phones always have presented noticeable performance improvements of one kind or another (speaker sound quality, mic competence, reception in strong locations, reception in weak locations, camera, durability, etc.).

All that said, personally I pretty much upgraded about every other year until the recent camera improvements have made each new model way cost effective for my business.
I completely understand everything that you've pointed out. Performance is always going to be improved year after year. Subtle or not. The improvements have to be substantial for me to be convinced to upgrade. I'm waiting on the 15 Pro and I know the changes are definitely going to be substantial. Just going to wait and see what comes out of this WWDC and in the Fall.
 
A price hike is not unreasonable in the context that pro iPhones are not the only products that Apple sells. I think that's why Apple has the base model of so many of their products (iPhone, Apple Watch SE, AirPods, iPad, M1 MBA). It gives them room to hike prices as they deem fit (eg: inflation, higher costs) knowing that consumers still have an affordable option available to them no matter what their income bracket.
 
Really? You can get a $0 android phone to check email, Facebook and make phone calls. You can also get a Samsung fold for a few thousand. Is that Samsung putting the squeeze on consumers because they can? Because people require a fold for their day to day existence?
what are you talking about? my comment was obviously about apple. i’m clearly talking about the news story i’m commenting on which has nothing to do with android or samsung.
 
what are you talking about? my comment was obviously about apple. i’m clearly talking about the news story i’m commenting on which has nothing to do with android or samsung.
I was wondering when you discuss greedy corporations is it only Apple that is "greedy" because their phones are expensive?
 
They are all greedy as far as I am concerned. I’d be less inclined to call Apple greedy if they actually put some effort into the standard iPhones and not release such tiny incremental updates. How about a triple camera system on an £800 and £900 device and and a higher refresh screen this year and match the competition? I stick with iOS because I think it’s a better OS, but I’m not going to continue if I feel the focus on delivering value for the cost is being ignored. I bought a 13 Pro Max this time around because the standard iPhones were as expensive and offered less. I doubt i’ll be doing that again as prices continue to soar. I like a nice capable phone but I’m not going to be a mug at the expense of it. They need to do better or they’ll continue to see less upgrades whether it slighter better than the competition or not.
 
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Anyone remember the concept of prices staying the same but features get better because things normalize? The people that defend all these price hikes saying but it has new features so it should cost more is astounding. That's not how it works. You're supposed to put out something better that makes you want to replace what you have for the same price. If Apple can't keep the price the same then they did too much too fast. Simple as that.
 
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