iPhone 15 Pro's USB-C Port Shown Off in Leaked Image

[geartau]

You don’t have CarPlay, I take it? The cable is very important for CarPlay users unless you have one of the few newer cars that have wireless CarPlay.

MacBook Air killed off dvd drives when people were still using it. Same logic applies.

Also people doing a lot of video shots want a fast wired connection to transfer the large files.

I airdrop my large files. When I get home, even from my car, I can initiate an airdrop to my MacBook and it'll finish copying my video files before I settle down at my desk to connect a cable.

 

[Tagbert]

MacBook Air killed off dvd drives when people were still using it. Same logic applies.



I airdrop my large files. When I get home, even from my car, I can initiate an airdrop to my MacBook and it'll finish copying my video files before I settle down at my desk to connect a cable.

I don’t plan to get a new car with wireless CarPlay just to accommodate a phone without a port.
There is nearly zero benefit to a portless phone so why compromise?

 

[Matsamoto]

Yes Titanium. And now the 64gb model will start at $1,999.
You’re welcome.

In Europe this is the price we get in 2023😁

 

[geartau]

I don’t plan to get a new car with wireless CarPlay just to accommodate a phone without a port.

you eventually will get a new car. just a matter of time. in the meantime, there should be a wireless receiver just like how macbook air people used a usb superdrive until they stopped using DVDs.

There is nearly zero benefit to a portless phone so why compromise?

less parts. less points of failure. more waterproofing (especially when Apple is moving to solid state buttons). more room for battery and/or other components. shift industry to wireless even more.

 

[Kingcoherent]

Can't believe how many people are excited for a substandard port that is going to break a lot. Lightning may be slow for transfers but it is a robust connector, never had one fail. Had the USBCs replaced on my 2017 MBP, both sides and they got far less usage than my phone gets.

Lightning ports aren’t completely robust, but the cables are so much worse. My iPad port has been robust as hell, as with my MacBook ports. I reused the same charger for iPad and MacBook and it’s lasted very well with constant use (And the odd trip).

We’ll need statistical analysis not anecdotes to settle this.

in the meantime I’m looking sors are to being able to use one cable for every thing when I travel.

 

[Kingcoherent]

you eventually will get a new car. just a matter of time. in the meantime, there should be a wireless receiver just like how macbook air people used a usb superdrive until they stopped using DVDs.


less parts. less points of failure. more waterproofing (especially when Apple is moving to solid state buttons). more room for battery and/or other components. shift industry to wireless even more.

Wireless charging is a lot less efficient, so that’s probably the main argument against it. But ultimately what you want to avoid is running out of power and not being able to charge your phone. Single connector reduces that risk.

Imagine the infrastructure needed for electric cars if every single manufacturer had their own standard?

 

[iSayuSay]

uh no? I specifically said "effectively added 50% charge".



5 seconds added 50% charge to my iPhone via MagSafe battery. slap on and go.

LOL, how? That "50% charge" is not actually getting IN your phone battery yet? That 5 seconds of slapping MagSafe battery on your phone's back isn't the same as adding 30% charge with 10mins of wired charging?

If you mean it adds battery life, then a cheap 20.000mAh wired battery pack will add 500% charge to your phone in just 5 secs, just because?

 

[ilikewhey]

actually Apple's devices stop charging if the device gets too hot and will auto resume once temperature lowers via software (it's even mentioned in your link). it doesn't matter what wireless charge device you use. your link talks about ambient temperature which applies to wired charging as well.

heat kills battery, simple as that. Fast charging wired and wireless, regardless of what apple say. the one thing none of these articles nor you, have mentioned what is a acceptable level of degradation.

 

[geartau]

Wireless charging is a lot less efficient, so that’s probably the main argument against it.

then Apple should have never adopted it...?

But ultimately what you want to avoid is running out of power and not being able to charge your phone.

wireless pads everywhere (coffee shops, within the office table, night stands, inside the car, etc...) solves that.

Imagine the infrastructure needed for electric cars if every single manufacturer had their own standard?

largely irrelevant to the topic?

 

[geartau]

LOL, how? That "50% charge" is not actually getting IN your phone battery yet? That 5 seconds of slapping MagSafe battery on your phone's back isn't the same as adding 30% charge with 10mins of wired charging?

In 5 seconds your phone went from 20% usable to 70% usable charge using a magsafe battery. You're failing to understand this.

If you mean it adds battery life, then a cheap 20.000mAh wired battery pack will add 500% charge to your phone in just 5 secs, just because?

Except you can't pocket the 20000mah wired battery pack in your jean pocket. You'd have to carry a backpack while it charges.

 

[geartau]

heat kills battery, simple as that. Fast charging wired and wireless, regardless of what apple say. the one thing none of these articles nor you, have mentioned what is a acceptable level of degradation.

you were the one that linked the apple article. and now you're saying "regardless of what apple say". you're arguing against yourself.

fast charging causes heat too. same thing.

both articles YOU LINKED don't really show wireless charging kills the battery much faster than fast charging.

 

[7149041]

I'm definitely staying on my 12 until they add USB-C or my phone falls apart. It's pretty much the only device I have that needs daily charging and does not support USB-C. Apple Watch too, but for obvious reasons I'm OK with that.

 

[ilikewhey]

you were the one that linked the apple article. and now you're saying "regardless of what apple say". you're arguing against yourself.

fast charging causes heat too. same thing.

both articles YOU LINKED don't really show wireless charging kills the battery much faster than fast charging.

thats why i don't use fast charging either, wireless charging is not efficient and just dumps heat around, heat kills battery. the best practice i witness so far is using standard charging.

 

[heath_durbin]

Apple can you also offer a 5W USB charger for the upcoming iPhone 15, please? I like to charge my iPhone with a 🐌 slow 5W voltage charger. Overnight charging for the win!

Exactly, I have a slow charger by my bed and fast chargers everyone else.

 

[heath_durbin]

thats why i don't use fast charging either, wireless charging is not efficient and just dumps heat around, heat kills battery. the best practice i witness so far is using standard charging.

Exactly, apples SHOULD provide one slow charger and one fast charger.

The slow charger for should be used for overnight charging.

and the fast charger should be used when you have emergency charging needs.

 

[75Batt]

I’m really not sure why people are getting excited about the slightest curve possible on a 3 year old design that was already recycled from 12 years ago. I know there’s not many places it can go but I’ve had every phone since the original and it’s really getting boring as hell now.

 

[MathDoc]

If it has Touch ID I'm in!

 

[Tagbert]

you eventually will get a new car. just a matter of time. in the meantime, there should be a wireless receiver just like how macbook air people used a usb superdrive until they stopped using DVDs.


less parts. less points of failure. more waterproofing (especially when Apple is moving to solid state buttons). more room for battery and/or other components. shift industry to wireless even more.

Yes, eventually I will get a new car and hopefully it will have wireless CarPlay. Surprisingly, one of the new cars I have an eye on, the Hyundai Ionic 5, only has wired CarPlay. It will be a while before all cars transition to Wireless. I have tried the third party wireless adaptors on my current Volt just to see if it was more convenient than plugging in the cable. It turned out to be much slower to connect; taking 30 seconds or more to connect and sometimes just failing. Taps on the CarPlay screen had a noticable delay likely from going through the multiple jumps. I would hope that a built-in wireless connection would work better. i don’t plan to change cars in the next couple of years and would not want to be forced to by my phone.

Less parts is not something that matters to me and I don’t see the power port as a significant point of failure. There are still plenty of components that could fail or not. One more or less will not make much difference. The iPhone is already water resistant enough for my needs. I don’t need to go swimming with it.

 

[tsa1]

It will be interesting to see what people say when they DON’T include a usb-c cable. I mean, everyone must have dozens of them already, right?

 

[geartau]

thats why i don't use fast charging either, wireless charging is not efficient and just dumps heat around, heat kills battery. the best practice i witness so far is using standard charging.

you can get 5W qi chargers too. amount of heat a 5W qi charger makes is negligible and won't even noticably degrade the battery.

 

[geartau]

Yes, eventually I will get a new car and hopefully it will have wireless CarPlay. Surprisingly, one of the new cars I have an eye on, the Hyundai Ionic 5, only has wired CarPlay. It will be a while before all cars transition to Wireless. I have tried the third party wireless adaptors on my current Volt just to see if it was more convenient than plugging in the cable. It turned out to be much slower to connect; taking 30 seconds or more to connect and sometimes just failing. Taps on the CarPlay screen had a noticable delay likely from going through the multiple jumps. I would hope that a built-in wireless connection would work better. i don’t plan to change cars in the next couple of years and would not want to be forced to by my phone.

Less parts is not something that matters to me and I don’t see the power port as a significant point of failure. There are still plenty of components that could fail or not. One more or less will not make much difference. The iPhone is already water resistant enough for my needs. I don’t need to go swimming with it.

by the time you get a new car, it'll probably have wireless carplay. if not, apple would release a wireless adapter which would probably fix the 30 second issue. and not sure what adapter you're using, my brother's wireless adapter doesn't take 30 seconds to connect and the interface isn't laggy at all. likely you're using a bad product. if apple made one, it'll likely be faster too.

well if the port stopped working and you didn't have the wireless adapter, you'd be left with a significant point of failure for carplay.

you mentioned "There is nearly zero benefit". i'm simply mentioning that it's not nearly zero. maybe nearly zero benefit *to you* but others can benefit greatly.

 

[Denzo]

All I see.. are price increases for USB 2.0 speeds

 

[Premium1]

luckily apple limits charge if temperature goes too high, preserving battery life. they thought of this already.

also fast wired charging heats the battery too.

Ah yes because apple's implementation is 100% foolproof... Also, of course, fast charging heats up the battery, but regular wired does not. Again, wireless charging is still not a better option for the majority of people (and you neglected to mention wireless carplay is hot garbage. But keep pushing the portless phone.. I am sure that will work perfectly as seen by apples recent product and software releases..)

 

[Flight Plan]

Finally! we got an actual image (not a render); World Class Masterpiece!

I like it and It looks amazing. This should have been implemented a long time ago. Better late than never! ⏳

USB-C, but not Thunderbolt? What if I want to connect a monitor or hard drive to my phone? 😉

Let's hope it's for every model.

I'm happy to stick with lightning on my 11 for now, but I have a couple of USB-C cables all ready for any future model.

USB-C by itself will not be enough for me to move from my 12 Pro-Plus-Super-Califragilistic, but combined with other improvements, it could push me over the finish line.

Wired CarPlay is way more reliable than wireless in my experience.

Wired also lets you charge at the same time. Wireless does not let you QI charge, at least not for the 12.

perhaps CarPlay shouldn't be tethered to your iPhone.

Ideally, CarPlay could run via Bluetooth or another wireless protocol, and STILL allow your phone to charge via QI.

No way! Wireless charging is way too slow and it overheats the back of the iPhone. No Bueno! 🙅‍♀️🙅‍♀️

I agree. In this age of ”all the (sustainable) things”, QI is very inefficient.

very little evidence that it kills the battery. that's what the charging curve is for.

Yeah, but Yay’s not wrong. Heat is the #1 enemy of batteries. When I had my Prius, I noted that it had a vent in the rear seat back on the passenger side, between the side panel of the car and the back of the seat itself. Those batteries GENERATE HEAT whenever they charge or discharge. The owner manual was very clear not to allow that vent to become blocked, like with somebody’s poofy coat or car clutter, etc.

wireless charging is far superior in terms of UX. easier to pick up and drop off for quick checks.

I wouldn’t go so far as to say it’s “far” or even “superior”. Wireless charging is a nice convenience, yes. And that makes a phone with it superior to a phone without it. But as a charging method, it’s merely an alright nice-to-have.

i get in my car and i just drop it on the wireless charger. no need to fiddle with dangling wires in the car.

That’s why it’s a nice to have. Until you place the phone “just off by so”, and you don’t get ANY charge. Face it, some of these charging systems are a bit fussy.

overheating from wireless charging has very little effect on the health of the battery.

Maybe not. But heat kills batteries. If there were a way to shunt off the heat, that would make it better.

wireless charging tops off your battery when you're not using it so i rarely have the need to go faster.

Not always. Some of the smart charging logic available now just says something like “battery 90%, plugged in, will recharge by 1 am). Sometimes we outsmart ourselves by half, as Paul Harvey used to say.

I’m all about Titanium! Straight up. That Stainless Steel gots to go! It’s outdated now. Bring the premium iPhone back. In addition, iPhone will face a massive drop in weight. It’s going to feel different. Titanium iPhone will remind us of iPhone 4/4s.

Titanium is pollutive to extract and form, and it costs more to shape it since it melts at a higher temperature. Being pollutive is not a reason to avoid it, of course. Ti is stronger than aluminum, lighter than steel, and is almost infinitely recyclable (if you have the energy to make it hot enough to reform). 3030 some-odd degrees F to melt Ti, whereas iron only needs 2700+ degrees.

Ti is used to replace knee, hip, and other joints and won’t set off most metal detectors, and it doesn’t usually cause the human body to reject it.

Unfortunately, only something like .63% of the Earth’s crust consists of Titanium in its raw form and the country with the greatest reserves of feedstocks for making Ti is…you guessed it, China.

Stainless steel needs nickel, though. Nickel is rarer still and the stainless steel industry has a huge competitor for Ni: Battery makers.

If there were a metal close to Wolverine’s Adamantium, it would be Tungsten. Doesn’t melt in temperatures up to 6000+ F, and it’s as hard as Satan’s heart.

I would like to see iPhone 15 or 16 be Titanium.

 

[Radeon85]

Only many years late!