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iPhone 15's USB-C Port Remains Limited to Lightning Speeds

Well, USB-C is just a connector. It doesn't say anything about the supported standard. (USB 1, USB 1.1, USB 2.0, USB 3.0, Thunderbolt, USB 4.0)
 
rom3o said:
And who exactly was Apple giving the middle finger to before, when they have been limiting Lightning to USB 2.0 speeds on all iPhones up to the 14 Pro?
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Exactly.

Tim Cook is still giving the middle finger to his customers right now in 2023 by limiting USB-C to USB 2.0 speeds with the non-Pro iPhone 15 costing up to $1199. He's giving his customers a bigger middle finger than ever before. And many of his customers on this forum actually praise him for that!
 
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I really hoped that Apple would offer USB 3.2 1x1 support (Certified 5 gigabits per second speeds) and charging rate of up to 35 watts initially on the iPhone 15/15 Plus. We may not see than until iPhone 16 next fall.
 
Totally called it. I knew the iPhone would get slower speeds than the iPhone Pro, I was thinking they would give the Pro thunderbolt certification, for that extra “first every in a phone” bragging rights. But 10Gb is pretty good for a phone that 98% of users aren’t going to use. I’d still take portless with better waterproof-ness over any connected speed, especially with wifi-6e and airdrop. I can’t even remember the last time I plugged my phone in to transfer a file.
 
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This was rumoured ages back, its to get punters to buy the more expensive model Apple make more money while I bet they have used cheaper batteries as this 3nm process has done nothing for better battery life, I don't game on a 6.1" screen so ray tracing is just a lure to the magic Apple cave that's pretty sparse this year apart from USB C and thats gimped for many.

I dont think I have even been so disappointed in a Apple iPhone release and I wasn't even going to buy a new one unless it had something very special but the battery life is still going to be as bad as the 14 pro when the 13 Pro was somehow better with smaller batteries on the smaller 13 Pro in real world use, hell even coloured braided cables would have been something and also nothing I guess and 19 grams well I don't even know if I can feel that tbh.

I also have concerns that the first years coating on the titanium will have issues with the horrible colours which must be for a reason, like it did on the stainless band on the 13Pro which got scratches. What a lame event for Apple this year, well that's how I see it, ymmv of course. At least my Mac mini M2 Pro 1TB seems to be a win.
 
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Biro said:
This is obscene. Apple may want to stick it to the EU but it is assaulting its own customers. The 15 and 15 Plus should have at least USB 3. If they want to differentiate between them and the Pros, then give the top models Thunderbolt speeds. But that wouldn't be like Apple, the world's most arrogant and cynical company. Not only am I going to wait on a purchase, I'm going to seriously consider leaving the ecosystem.
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The problem is the masses won’t care…
They’re the ones the devices are made for
 
MrRom92 said:
Yes, I think it’s interesting that we need to freeze frame a 2 hour video to find a photo of it. Since it’s such a big feature of the device it is just shocking to me that apple would not prominently display it practically anywhere in their marketing.
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It’s a darn port. Why the hell do you want to see it? Like you don’t know what a usb-c port looks like. It ain’t a big feature to them as you make it seem for yourself.
 
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COrocket said:
I legitimately can not remember the last time I used my iPhone to transfer data to or from a computer using a Lightning cord. Who cares.

The big deal is that I can charge my MacBook, iPad, and now iPhone without having to carry around multiple cords.
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Of course not, because data transfers over Lightning cable are excruciatingly slow.

Intel just announced Thunderbolt 5 at 80 Gbps.
Thunderbolt 4 / USB-C 4 runs at 40 Gbps (available on my MBP)
Apple just announced USB-C 3.0 at 10 Gbps for iPhone 15 Pro
And USB-C 2.0 at 0.48 Gbps for iPhone 15 (same speed as Lightning).

iPhone 15 and older:
160 times slower than the just announced Thunderbolt 5.
80 times slower than data speeds available on my MBP.

iPhone 15 Pro:
4 times slower than data speeds available on my MBP.

THAT is why you don't bother with data transfers via cable on your iPhone.
 
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Now people who weren’t going to buy an iPhone 15 will tell us how they are not buying an iPhone 15 because of this.
 
Biro said:
This is obscene. Apple may want to stick it to the EU but it is assaulting its own customers.
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You really believe big businesses like Apple (or any company, really) do anything to “stick it to someone”?
 
Biro said:
This is obscene. Apple may want to stick it to the EU but it is assaulting its own customers. The 15 and 15 Plus should have at least USB 3. If they want to differentiate between them and the Pros, then give the top models Thunderbolt speeds. But that wouldn't be like Apple, the world's most arrogant and cynical company. Not only am I going to wait on a purchase, I'm going to seriously consider leaving the ecosystem.
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You know why they did this?

So that they can put:
20 Gbps into iPhone 16 Pro
40 Gbps into iPhone 17 Pro
80 Gbps into iPhone 18 Pro.

5 Gbp into iPhone 16
10 Gbps into iPhone 17
...etc

Anyone who thinks Tim Cook is a good CEO needs their head read.
 
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michaelouz said:
Forget the regular 15 not getting USB 3, the bigger story is that the Pro *only* gets 10gbps - on the same day Intel announces Thunderbolt 5 with 80gbps!
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That’s why there’s options. Any company can make and sell anything as they please. If you don’t like what they are selling, don’t buy and keep shopping. I don’t know what people get so butt hurt. Nobody is forcing you to buy their products. There’s other companies selling other products you or others may like. Check those out.

What’s so hard about it guys? I can make a new tablet now that only runs YouTube. That’s it, only YouTube. And I want to sell it for $500. The device doesn’t suit you and there’s no benefit for you, so you don’t purchase it. But other people are buying it and I’m selling 200 million annually, what’s it to you? Some like it and some don’t. But it’s selling enough to keep me going. That doesn’t mean people are suppose to by my product. It’s a device on the market for purchase for “anyone that is interested”. That’s it. You can simply say, this device doesn’t work for me and move on, or say, this device will work for me, I’ll purchase one.
 
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CarlJ said:
Instead of rushing to assign blame, maybe dig a little deeper. They're not "throttling it down" or "intentionally capping" - the USB circuitry is on the A16 chip, the same chip they were using last year in the iPhone 14 Pro. It is designed to run at USB2 speeds (because that's all that Lightning needed).

The iPhone 15 Pro uses the A17. The A17 has more capable USB circuitry on it, that can do the higher speeds. Next year, in all likelihood, the iPhone 16 will get the A17 (and faster speeds) and the iPhone 16 Pro will have moved onto an A18 chip.
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Yeah nah, only putting USB 2 into those chips IS throttling. We are talking about very old technologies here.
 
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wigby said:
It's even more unnecessary to connect any cable for data transfer to any phone unless you're frequently moving over large chunks of data -> you're a pro -> buy iPhone Pro.
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Yeah, buy and iPhone Pro, and get 10 Gbps.
Meanwhile my 2021 M1 MBP has 40 Gbps.
And Intel just announced Thunderbolt 5 with 80 Gbps.

I want a freaking PRO phone. How hard can it be Apple!
 
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Populus said:
I expect this to improve next year with the iPhone 16, with the integrated USB-C controller on the SoC, just like the A17 Pro.
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Yeah, next year iPhone 16 will get 5 Gbps, and iPhone Pro will get 20 Gbps.
Year after, iPhone 17 will get 10 Gbps... etc

Meanwhile, Intel just released 80 Gbps Thunderbolt 5.

Go Apple, you champions of premium tech.
 
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aevan said:
Now people who weren’t going to buy an iPhone 15 will tell us how they are not buying an iPhone 15 because of this.
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Heck, I’ve already seen a post where the nutcase at the keyboard proclaimed his exit from the entire Apple ecosystem over this one “issue”. 🤣
 
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