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iPhone 16 and 16 Plus Again Rumored to Jump From A16 to A18 Chip

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iPhone 15 demand not looking promising; more iPhone 16 rumors

We’ve been hearing a lot about iPhone 15 demand in recent weeks, especially when it comes to China. Following a...
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its hard to know what's going on or real as always, "they're" now saying that iPhone 15 demand is weak... After initial launch week hype that this was a huge turnout for sales from the unforeseen insanely crowded stores and long lines, coinciding with it being a big upgrade cycle for iPhone 12 era users, and iPhone 12 being a big upgrade cycle from whatever people were using previously due to 5G / re-design / OLED for non Pro people, etc.

China demand supposedly being down may put the bigger dent in things:

after all:

He shuffled his butt over there
 
Yeah this is what I expected. The current A17 Pro won't show up again once the iPhone 15 Pros are discontinued in September 2024 since they won't want to continue using N3B. Rather than re-engineer the A17 for N3E and make a new A18 Pro chip for N3E they'll likely just make one new N3E chip and bin it for different products with the best chips going into the 16 Pros and the version going into the iPhone 16s missing a graphics core and/or clocked a little lower. We'll see how they market it - A18 and A18 Pro? A18 Bionic and A18 Pro? Something else?
 
What's going on over at Apple? Leave the oddly confusing method of numbering and naming of things to Microsoft's Xbox division. ;)
 
Why we need 48MP cameras in the iPad Air?.
I need 102hz refresh rate. PENTIUM CPU for all I care is on, and LIGHT!. My 12.9 pro is mostly unused because I won’t take to the can nor take it out the bag during flights due to its mammoth like weight… for photos and video call I take out my phone. selfie camera is enough for the real life usage escenarios.
 
Just a rebranded A17 Pro haha

Old A17 Pro = New A18

Maybe an iteration of the 17 Pro, fewer cores or smthg
 
Honestly don't buy this rumor that the A17Pro has a flaw design, hence the heat issues. This source has a poor track record. Other more influential sources would have picked up on this subject if true. Software is the issue.
 
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sjperformance said:
Nah. Just wait for the iPhone 20 instead.
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Why wait for that when you can have this, now?

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smulji said:
Why wait for that when you can have this, now?

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Being sarcastic.
 
MacRumors said:
N3E is less expensive and has improved yield compared to N3B, according to TSMC.
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Just as important EVEN N3B is cheaper per transistor than N5...

Remember all that hysterical "reporting" over the past few years that N5 was impossibly expensive and it would just get worse with N3, blah blah blah.
Yeah, well, that worked out about as well as it always works out when you extrapolate one data point to infinity, with no serious model behind the extrapolation.

Meanwhile in the real world:

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(Also interesting, as a side issue) is that N3E seems to have evolved from "slightly worse density than N3B" to 15% higher density... My guess is this is achievable via FinFlex, another of those technical details that was mostly ignored by people who care about "sides" rather than technology.
Again a reminder that crying doom based on very little evidence usually doesn't end well.)
 

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User 6502 said:
There is nothing weird in non wanting to pay a premium price (the standard iphone is a high end product that until not too long ago was the flagship model) for a 12 months old chip. ‘Perfectly fine’ is not good enough for something so expensive. It has to be cutting edge.
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It's all marketing. The performance delta between the two will likely remain the same despite the numbering scheme. The 'massive' performance gains on these processors are no longer a thing as you still have to deal with the small thermal envelopes. iPhone 15PM owners can attest to this.

At least people will feel better about reading the apple environmental reports on their shiny new iPhone they unnecessarily buy every year.
 
The rumor mill is so eager to always talk about the next thing, but I'd say talking about skipping a generation is getting ahead of ourselves...
 
JPack said:
The n-1 strategy is still true. This analyst is simply saying all 2024 iPhones will use N3E, which everyone already expected.

A chip using N3E tells us nothing about the performance. How different will A18 be from A18 Pro? What is the difference in die size? Cache size? GHz? We don't know any of that.

There is nothing stopping Apple from marketing a slow N3E chip as regular "A17."
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Exactly. And posters here are clueless about yields, which affect everything.
 
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