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hey - I agree to these points but how bout the rumors of better battery life and thermal design?

Im on the verge of buying 15 Pro (done with 13 PM size) cheap now but seen number of posts how 15 Pro is terribly hot.

These so called thermal issues are to be supposedly addressed with 16 Pro.

Not sure if this is real issue for 15 pro though - ie my 13 PM started being hot with iOS 17 randomly this year as well and stopped with 17.6 or so.

is this something you would consider 15 Pro vs 16 Pro? don't really care about other stuff as you mentioned don't see significant.
The heat on my 15 Pro hasn’t been terrible, though I use a thick case and run iOS 18.1 beta. I thought Apple addressed the issue with iOS 17.1.0, as I haven’t heard much about thermal issues since. Even when my phone gets warm without the case (rarely), I believe overheating is due to poor developer coding, not the phone itself. Some app developers are terrible at creating their apps.


A phone running a bit cooler isn’t enough to make me upgrade. Apple needs to offer more. A 200 MP camera with 100x optical zoom would be a good start. Also, a camera that doesn’t keep refocusing just because you’re close to the subject would be helpful. Even the Pro models still have poor cameras—noisy pictures, especially in low light, and low-quality zoomed images. If Apple made the cameras flush with the back and used slightly bigger components, the cameras would perform better. I feel like Apple purposely holds back the camera just so they have a key point to point out in a new phone every year.
 
Given how old my iPhone 12 is, I am trying to decide whether to get the iPhone 16 Plus 512 GB or an iPhone 16 Pro 512 GB. If the price difference is not significant I am just get an iPhone 16 Pro 512 GB, mostly because of my concerns about "pocketability" of the iPhone 16 Plus model.
 
Welcome advances, but very little incentive to upgrade this year for anyone with iPhone 13 and later, IMO.

The major potential deal breaking feature of the entire 16 line is its ability to support Apple Intelligence. However, as it stands now, AI is a work in progress and I doubt it will mature and catch up with competition before at least iPhone 17.
Also to add to this.... if you have an iPhone 15 Pro, you'll be able to utilize Apple Intelligence fully, with an upgrade to iOS 18. So I'd agree, not much incentive to upgrade last years model.
 
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More of standard yearly evolution than a revolution. Could be called 15S instead of 16. But still, since I’m coming from an XR, a baseline 16 (or 15S) looks like a definite buy
When I upgraded from my XR, I too went for a baseline model in the non-pro 15 last year, so if I hadn't upgraded just last year I would so pounce on the 16

That being said though, lack of AI features aside, I'm still quite happy with my 15 so I'm in no rush to upgrade from it given that I had my XR from 2019-23 (so on a 4 year upgrade cycle myself)
 
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Still not worth upgrading from 13 Pro Max.
No bigger sensor, no true raw.

Camera app still lacks simple things like intervalometer and I believe manual focus.
Which is why I use a real camera like my Canon R7 for anything more that a snapshot type photo.
 
I just upgrade every year through the Apple Upgrade Program. Just pay the $60 a month since my phone bill is only $67 a month. I don’t have to worry about selling my old one.
 
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The only feature I've been waiting years for is Action-mode video in 4K instead of the current lame 2K. So..
 
As in "best iPhone ever"? One that Tim Cook thinks we're going to love? No way!??!

In that case, the compilation makers better start booting up Final Cut!:

There’s GOTTA be a playground SOMEWHEAH on the continental US (all due respect HI/ AK) wheah a kid went, “you gotta check this out! The all new iPhone, I got it for my birthday, this is THE BEST they ever made”

“…Wooooooow…”


I have a 14 Pro and was considering the 16 Pro Max but I'm starting to rethink that. I really don't care at all about the AI stuff and it's going to need some years to get refined and more useful anyway. The other stuff is super whatever for me, can take it or leave it.

I got 14 pro max (14 my bday Virgo the best), and 15 is where it’s at right now…I mean cmon spatial video/pics. Srs future proofing right there, my guy. This 16 looks to possibly
Only improve that feature and tweak some other good stuff for hopefully all the better….much anticipated, I say.


How many times MacRumours going to keep posting identical articles about what’s coming. It’s every other day at the moment.

There’s hardly any new news they they just keep rephrasing stuff and hope no one notices.

If there’s nothing new, you don’t have to post anything for the sake of it.

Wait until the media invite is sent and we get another ‘what you can expect’ article just incase you missed the previous 50!

The main drum of excitement in this article and the reason for its purpose in terms of the impetus for posting it, I believe….invites coming up as soon as this week possibly…exciting stuff!!!….


They are pushing 16 a lot when in reality it’s a very similar iPhone to last year

It’s 15s but for 14 pro max and older users this is massive, and that’s many many many many ppl.


hey - I agree to these points but how bout the rumors of better battery life and thermal design?

Im on the verge of buying 15 Pro (done with 13 PM size) cheap now but seen number of posts how 15 Pro is terribly hot.

These so called thermal issues are to be supposedly addressed with 16 Pro.

Not sure if this is real issue for 15 pro though - ie my 13 PM started being hot with iOS 17 randomly this year as well and stopped with 17.6 or so.

is this something you would consider 15 Pro vs 16 Pro? don't really care about other stuff as you mentioned don't see significant.


Just wait it out go with 16, you’ll be glad you did, I’m fairly positive…thermal kinks ironed out etc.

Now looking like September 9th 😃

Virgo the best baby, iPhone = Virgo, oh snap! No wonda its second to none and an absolute stunna aesthetically (inside and out) and is very picky about who it allows in etc.

Ummm lemme see, only cringy aspect to the reveals IMO is Tim Cook. I prefer him in short bursts. Haha

My suggestion? Each reveal a diff. Celebrity host. That’d be even more enticing. Big names fairly neutral like say Tom Hanks or Jordan peele over Kanye or Joe Rogan…I think that’d shake things up and be interesting. Maybe authors of a similar ilk, actors musics olympians. Wow it could get interesting….

And burst my bubble did…only iPhone 5 and new = Virgo. Ah well can’t win em all!
 
Welcome advances, but very little incentive to upgrade this year for anyone with iPhone 13 and later, IMO.

The major potential deal breaking feature of the entire 16 line is its ability to support Apple Intelligence. However, as it stands now, AI is a work in progress and I doubt it will mature and catch up with competition before at least iPhone 17.
Honestly, the 13 to the 16 is a huge difference with all the features that dropped in between releases.
 
We all know Apple isn't necessarily targeting previous year iPhone owners, but there really is incredibly small reasons to upgrade from my 15 Pro Max. With that said, I am always excited to watch the iPhone events. I miss the days when excitement was through the roof and we had in-person audiences.
 
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These new iPhones 16 Pros are really shaping up to be the best upgrade in years for all iPhone users, even from an iPhone 15 Pro Max. Apple Intelligence, 16GB RAM, all-new designs, better displays, faster chips, radically improved networking, the most advanced camera system ever, souped-up microphones for better interactions with Siri and your friends and family, higher-capacity stacked battery technology, WiFi 7, improved bluetooth, faster charging technologies, literally everything is getting better this year.
Huh? I can't tell if this is serious post. 16GB of RAM is not coming to iPhones any time soon. Slight increased display size, not new design just the slightly larger frame, everything else is incredibly iterative based on current rumors. I've been using AI with iOS 18.1 for weeks now and it's not changed anything about how I use my phone. The best part is the UI changes.

I think you meant to say next year's iPhone 17 Pros will be the best upgrade in years. 12GB of RAM, new design, amongst many other significant rumored changes.
 
Huh? I can't tell if this is serious post. 16GB of RAM is not coming to iPhones any time soon. Slight increased display size, not new design just the slightly larger frame, everything else is incredibly iterative based on current rumors. I've been using AI with iOS 18.1 for weeks now and it's not changed anything about how I use my phone. The best part is the UI changes.

I think you meant to say next year's iPhone 17 Pros will be the best upgrade in years. 12GB of RAM, new design, amongst many other significant rumored changes.
100% agree. Although I'd hold off the excitement for the i17 too. Apple seems really conservative these days.
 
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Not expecting any major changes for the 16 Pro Max compared to the 15 Pro Max other than a slightly larger screen and a capture button. Waiting to see the colours in real life.
 
Very satisfied with my Fold 6 but depending on the trade-in value of my iPhone 15 Plus, I might upgrade to the Pro Max for the camera as a secondary device.
Awesome that you got it. I picked up a Fold 5 just recently (had the Fold 4 before it). I didn't want to wait years for Apple to finally release a foldable. They might even release a flip-style foldable iPhone before a book-style device, which is lame. I'm sure the 16 line will be great but the Pro Max version I'd consider getting with everything will be well over $1700, which is foldable territory without the folding. I'll probably stick with my 12 Pro Max for at least another year or until I can get a deal on a used 16 Pro Max next summer.
 
The heat on my 15 Pro hasn’t been terrible, though I use a thick case and run iOS 18.1 beta. I thought Apple addressed the issue with iOS 17.1.0, as I haven’t heard much about thermal issues since. Even when my phone gets warm without the case (rarely), I believe overheating is due to poor developer coding, not the phone itself. Some app developers are terrible at creating their apps.


A phone running a bit cooler isn’t enough to make me upgrade. Apple needs to offer more. A 200 MP camera with 100x optical zoom would be a good start. Also, a camera that doesn’t keep refocusing just because you’re close to the subject would be helpful. Even the Pro models still have poor cameras—noisy pictures, especially in low light, and low-quality zoomed images. If Apple made the cameras flush with the back and used slightly bigger components, the cameras would perform better. I feel like Apple purposely holds back the camera just so they have a key point to point out in a new phone every year.
Maybe you mean digital zoom? no phone will ever have 100x optical zoom, the iPhone 15 Pro Max has 5x optical zoom now... Samsung S24 Ultras have 100x digital zoom but that's a gimmick that look terrible.
 
I'mma stick with my 13 mini, because it fits in my pocket and isn't the size of a surfboard.
So do I!
None of those other biggies attract me, and I have no problem with it.
So it stays with me.
 
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