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Honestly, I'm glad I didn't get the 15PM and got the pro instead. The 3x is long enough and 5x would be too long for most uses. Plus, for video 3x is already hard to keep stable, and 5x is just going to be a shaky mess.

They should just bite the bullet and go full Samsung Galaxy Camera style with a proper telescoping zoom lens on the back of the camera. Just make a version that is a camera that also happens to be a phone.
I've used the 5x tele on the PM 15 and it is surprisingly stable when shooting video. Pretty amazing tech. However, I agree that I miss the 3x support, especially in Portrait or Cinematic mode. I believe Apple will "solve" this when they add a fourth lens to the iPhone Ultra. (If they truly are adding that shutter button, you know this is eventually coming.)
 
Also iPhone 16 PM has miraculous better camera quality which the iPhone 15 Pm cannot handle because of the A18 processor...
 
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That’s poorly written. The camera difference between Pro Max and Pro first occurred on the iPhone 12 Pro series, 3 generations before the 15.
Way before that. Camera differences were even there with iPhone 7 and 7 Plus.
 
Read the article and still not sure what tetraprism is. But I want it.

Article: https://michaellong.medium.com/a-periscope-lens-uses-a-prism-to-flip-the-light-90-and-send-it-down-a-tube-to-a-sensor-located-at-2dafb21d94a5#:~:text=1-,A periscope lens uses a prism to flip the light,back to the original axis.

What is interesting is that Apple or more accurately, this ‘rumor' is implying that Apple has added Tetraprism capability to their Periscope lens apparatus.
 
It is a prime lens not optical zoom. But ofc it’s easier to spread that marketing bs. Why not 10x? like apple said in on of the documents, sounds much cooler isn’t it? It’s just a question to put the wide lens as the base.
 
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Honestly, I'm glad I didn't get the 15PM and got the pro instead. The 3x is long enough and 5x would be too long for most uses. Plus, for video 3x is already hard to keep stable, and 5x is just going to be a shaky mess.

They should just bite the bullet and go full Samsung Galaxy Camera style with a proper telescoping zoom lens on the back of the camera. Just make a version that is a camera that also happens to be a phone.
Oh man. I remember selling and supporting these as tech support.
 
“Optical zoom”

This suggests that they’re building an actual zoom lens into the phone. There’s NO WAY that’s accurate. A zoom lens has moving parts.

What Apple is using is a telephoto, fixed prime. Not a zoom lens.

And on that point, 5x is useless garbage. The ultra wide is the most useful lens on the phone and the 2x produces the best quality images. They should drop the telephoto and give us three primes: a 16mm, a 23mm and a 50mm.
 
“Optical zoom”

This suggests that they’re building an actual zoom lens into the phone. There’s NO WAY that’s accurate. A zoom lens has moving parts.

What Apple is using is a telephoto, fixed prime. Not a zoom lens.

And on that point, 5x is useless garbage. The ultra wide is the most useful lens on the phone and the 2x produces the best quality images. They should drop the telephoto and give us three primes: a 16mm, a 23mm and a 50mm.
This would mean I need to get up and walk to the subject at hand to get it in the right frame. Apart from all the extra energy this will take me and thus increase CO2 emission worldwide (we need carbon neutrality!) the subject will often be long gone. Just give me the 5x on the regular Pro.
 
This would mean I need to get up and walk to the subject at hand to get it in the right frame. Apart from all the extra energy this will take me and thus increase CO2 emission worldwide (we need carbon neutrality!) the subject will often be long gone. Just give me the 5x on the regular Pro.

Hogwash. A 50mm prime will get you plenty close. The 5x lens is an illusion. It produces poor quality images. It’s a marketing gimmick more than it is a legitimate photographic tool.
 
These protruding lenses are bad engineering. If they can't make the lenses shorter, they should make the battery thicker and increase the battery life. I am a photographer and would never put the lenses on the table unprotected.
As long as they don't have a solution for this (a functionless case is not a solution for me), I won't buy another iPhone.
 
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Man, the more I read about iphones these days, the less interested I am.

I know people will continue to love them and they'll continue to make record-breaking profits but surely there is a limit to the yearly increases in size. I mean how much bigger can they get? How much larger will the camera bump get?

I'm convinced that by the time we get to iphone 20, you'll be better off trying to cram a macbook in your pocket :D🔫
 
As good as this may be, the game changer for iPhone will be battery technology that gives dramatically superior battery life. This would have a far greater impact for all users than a tetraprism lens.
id be more than happy with the current tech, but in a lighter and not quite so bulky frame. Surely they can't continue to make them bigger year after year?
 
From Apple:

We created a state‑of‑the‑art tetraprism design — a folded glass structure below the lens — to reflect light rays four times over. This allows light to travel for longer in the same space, giving you a new focal length that really goes the distance.
To support the tetraprism design, we pioneered a 3D sensor‑shift optical image stabilization and autofocus module that moves in all three directions. Our most advanced stabilization system ever delivers twice as many microadjustments as before.
yeah cool story apple. 99% of people just want more battery life, not another bloated camera upgrade. They are already more than enough.
 
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Need better cooling and 12G RAM. Apple being so stingy and miser when it comes to storage and ram is beyond ridiculous.
 
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These protruding lenses are bad engineering. If they can't make the lenses shorter, they should make the battery thicker and increase the battery life. I am a photographer and would never put the lenses on the table unprotected.
As long as they don't have a solution for this (a functionless case is not a solution for me), I won't buy another iPhone.
The external clear windows that you see are made of sapphire, which are very hard and difficult to scratch. (Sapphire is also popular for wristwatch crystals). The actual ‘lenses’ are behind the window and protected. The angle generated by the raised sides of the assemblies adds an additional feature to save the sapphire windows touching any surfaces.
 
Way before that. Camera differences were even there with iPhone 7 and 7 Plus.
Sure, but they’re comparing between devices marked Pro, so presumably that’s between Pro and Pro Max. The earliest camera distinction between those two lines I think started at iPhone 12 generation.

The Pro and Pro Max lines didn’t come out until iPhone 11. Before that was iPhone XS vs XS Max
 
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