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iPhone 16 Pro Reviews: 'Iterative' Upgrades… For Now
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I am wondering if anyone has proposed to iJustine. I mean....she has fans....a lot of them. 😂 I am glad I am not a fan of any Youtuber.
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I still have my iPhone XS but I don't use it anymore. Anyway you are right. Going from an iPhone XS to the iPhone 16 Pro is worth the upgrade.
I have the iPhone 13 Pro and I can wait 1 more year. I will just schedule an appointment to replace the battery and it will feel like it's brand new. It's the first time I am keeping my iPhone for a fourth year. Usually I upgrade my iPhone every 3 years.I have a 12 pro max and still considering to wait for 17
I somewhat agree with you. I would skip the iPhone 16 Pro if I had the iPhone 12 Pro. Personally I think you shouldn't upgrade if you have the iPhone 12 Pro, 13 Pro, 14 Pro or 15 Pro. The upgrade is worth only if you have an iPhone 11 Pro or earlier.
Personally I will keep my iPhone 13 Pro for another year and I will just schedule an appointment to replace the battery and it will feel like it's brand new.
I agree with you, but for me it doesn't justify the € 1.609,00, VAT included, (512 GB model). 3 years ago I paid
€ 1.509,00, VAT included, (512 GB model). This is a € 100 prince increase over the course of 3 years....
I fear the iPhone 17 series will see another price increase in Europe.
That's my fear as well. I know Apple is good at optimizing its operating systems (iOS, iPadOS, macOS, tvOS...etc) but I would like to have more RAM because I am planning on keeping my iPhone for the next 3-5 years. In 3 years from now, we don't know what Apple is planning for iOS 21 and so on. Will it run okay? Will there be missing features on the iPhone 15 Pro and 16 Pro because they don't have enough RAM memory? No one knows this, but one thing is sure. More RAM memory is always better than less RAM memory for future proofing.
I think you won't regret it. By the time iPhone 17 series are announced and shipped, Apple Intelligence will be ready out of the box. Personally I would wait until next year and I would just replace the battery and just put the money aside for the iPhone 17 Pro or whatever they will name it next year.
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Or... d) 8 GB will be more than enough for the next five years or so (or possibly more) for what Apple has planned with respect to their AI implementation going forward with respect to iPhone.
What I find kind of amusing is how causally large GB numbers are tossed around here. I think many just reflexively do that without putting much thought into how many bytes a GB is - ie 1 Billion bytes.
Will Apple AI really require 16 Billion or 24 Billion (24,000,000,000) bytes in the near future? Who knows, but I doubt it.
Do I really need to, assuming I could, "future proof" memory to the tune of 24,000,000,000 bytes in order to run Apple AI? Not me.
If that *should* be required in the future (I'm doubtful), I'll likely want to replace the iPhone 16PM I'll be using day after tomorrow with whatever iPhone I'm using five years from now.
I think your work is very good. Professional quality for sure. You're a true shutterbug, and all on an iPhone? As a business owner, it's always been my opinion that it's better to have a skilled operator on inferior equipment than an unskilled operator on great equipment. Forget chucking your iPhone. Just bite the bullet and get yourself a Hasselblad medium format with a 48MP digital back, to take the best advantage of your gift!
Thank you - I appreciate the kind words!
Those photos were taken over a period of years... some with Canon dSLRs, some with point-n-shoots, and many with various iPhones going back to a 4s. There might be a couple there from my Arca-Swiss F-Field 4x5. Frankly, on many of them, I don't remember which camera I used just looking at them. It could be from any of them.
My view is strong photographs don't come from the camera, but from the person *making* (not taking) the photo. And is about his/her life experiences, ability to read light, understanding composition and what should or shouldn't be in the frame, recognizing the power of gesture, recognizing potential narratives a photo might release in a viewer's mind conjuring a story, knowing when to let details drop into the shadows to generate mystery in a viewer's mind, and on and on, and on. All within a couple of seconds.
To me gear is pretty much irrelevant.
Whenever I come across a photographer on the street, sometimes I'll ask, "What do you shoot?"
If the reply is something like, "I shoot with a Leica/Sony/Canon/Nikon with a 50mm f/1.4 lens," I usually reply with a "Oh that's great!" and move on.
If the reply is something like, "I make photographs of marginalized San Franciscans living on the street, and the resulting impact on neighborhoods," I'd might reply with, "That's really interesting, let's have a beer and talk about projects."
In other words, I hate talking about camera gear and "what's the best camera." That's pretty much irrelevant for me.
I love talking about photography projects and making photographs.
Here it comes - Austin Mann
In brief, it is unfortunate, but have to agree with the majority, that the camera button is a very niche and, for the majority, completely unnecessary technical solution from Apple. Not to mention the fact that the 16 Pro has a very negligible camera upgrade (at least compared to the 15 Pro Max).
I thought the iPhone 16 Pro and PM have the same camera this year compared to last year, hence its feature parity as I dislike the PM physical size (personal preference).Here it comes - Austin Mann
In brief, it is unfortunate, but have to agree with the majority, that the camera button is a very niche and, for the majority, completely unnecessary technical solution from Apple. Not to mention the fact that the 16 Pro has a very negligible camera upgrade (at least compared to the 15 Pro Max).
With geo-politics of 2025 who knows what the future will hold? Economy is not great this year and not looking any better next year.
That reminds me of movie reviewers, if you care about someone else’s opinion then you are invalidating your own enjoyment to appease or conform to others view point.
The issue is timing of these products like AVP, the economy is heading opposite of what it cost to own this thing and it will be on life support until external factors improve unfortunately.
In the US, yes. Still no news on the roll-out in Europe (AFAIK). They're missing quite a chunck of potential customers this way. I have absolutely no reason to upgrade my 15 Pro.
Ofcourse she's gonna love it. She still treats Apple products as something that was design by God himself.
I'm in the same boat with an Xs, but not sure I can wait another year.
I'm sorry but these are the ONLY things that are actually better for the user and an improvement.
Larger, Brighter, AOD displays
8GB of RAM vs 6GB
USB C with 10Gbps
Nothing else you mentioned is in anyway "better" than the 13 Pro.
The 13 pro had fantastic battery that then went to **** with the 14 and 15, camera quality is completely non noticeable, action/camera buttons, dynamic island LMFAO 🤣GIMMICKS!!!, A chip speeds mean NOTHING now as iOS does nothing with it, the rest sound like apple marketing to a boomer.
what's baffling is people scrambling to make every little thing sound like its better than previous, its ok to criticise apple when they're being awful and lazy.
they won't dump you.
According to you.
To me, RAM will not be that noticeable. AI functions are not coming to EU anytime soon and I don't max out the 13 Pro RAM.
USB-C will rarely be used by me, same with AOD.
Better camera, quicker control (if it will work good) over the camera and action button are all usability improvements for me.
Only mrwhostheboss has had the guts to say the screen controls are quicker than this stupid button, everyone else has ignored it and too scared to say it.
You will not notice the difference in photo quality at all, you know it, I know it and Apple knows it.
action button, the most pointless unused gimmick on an iPhone.
and if you aren't even getting AI then buying the 16 pro is like setting fire to money, insanity.
The camera button may seem like a “gimmick” to some at present that doesn’t mean it is unable be useful to do other tasks in future iOS update.
Take for example, swipe up to unlock can easily be incorporated into the new camera button. Anytime Apple introduces a change or new thing it provides ample time for its user base to get accustom to it. Another example was the removal of the HomeButton with the still present HomeBar that for some reason still cannot be hidden.
Action button has gained more function since iPhone 15 Pro. Be glad Apple is unlike Google to introduce something then abandon it after some years. 3D Touch was an exception on iPhone I still miss but I suspect that was due to lack of 3rd party developers using it and people forgetting or unaware of its existence unlike buttons on the side of the phone.
Got it, iPhone 16 Pro is not worth it for you and are not upgrading due to Apple being lazy, while others on an iPhone 12 or older should also keep holding on to their device until people on a 13-15 feel it’s worth an upgrade.
Forget that for most people the battery may probably need to be replaced and will gain features that their device has not had or an improvement, nah Apple only makes the iPhone to revolve around your needs, got it.
I really had the itch to upgrade this year. 13 Pro .. now 3 years. Previously I’d upgrade every 1-2 years.
But Holy disappointment with the 16 series.
It’s still very expensive to upgrade so when I weigh up the incentives vs the cost , something just doesn’t add up.
I also have grave concerns that 8GB won’t last many years (just like 6Gb relegates the regular 15 to the bin for AI).
The regular 16 seemed appealing until you realise it’s 60hz , and going back to that from 120 is not nice. Appalling for an $800-900 phone.
So I either keep the 13 Pro (maybe) or try something else (Pixel 9 series ?)
Might upgrade the watch instead & wait for the 17 series.
But Holy disappointment with the 16 series.
It’s still very expensive to upgrade so when I weigh up the incentives vs the cost , something just doesn’t add up.
I also have grave concerns that 8GB won’t last many years (just like 6Gb relegates the regular 15 to the bin for AI).
The regular 16 seemed appealing until you realise it’s 60hz , and going back to that from 120 is not nice. Appalling for an $800-900 phone.
So I either keep the 13 Pro (maybe) or try something else (Pixel 9 series ?)
Might upgrade the watch instead & wait for the 17 series.
I had an XS then upgraded to a 12P then 13 Mini, glad I did as the battery on the XS was terrible. Upgrade on your own needs and not what reviews are trying to convince you along with the forum members here at the end of the day it’s a device you use daily and frequently plus it being your enjoyment and money. You don’t need other validation as next year it’s a guarantee that there will be people happy or not with the iPhone 17 announcement.