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iPhone 16 Rumor Recap: What We Know About Apple's 2024 Smartphones So Far
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If you call it an iPencil Pro, they will come. 😳A pencil?
No.
Who wants a pencil?
You have to get them and put them away and you'll lose them.
Yuck!
Nobody wants a pencil.
so - if i wait few more years - i got finally my ipad mini with phone app.
And you can just get a wrist band for your old iPhone and call it an iWatch.
Ok, I’m not in favor with EU requirements. But USB-C is a superior port.
How ‘bout an iPod?
I want two things for the perfect iPhone. I want USB C and I want the whole notch/dynamic island completely under the display where I can have apps pop up dynamic island or when on a FaceTime call the small hole punch for the camera can be seen as the display bends away or goes white or dark or clear or whatever is necessary to make it so 99.999% of the time I am on my iPhone I don’t have to look at anything other than a display.
Probably add back in a physical SIM card for US users who want to travel and need the functionality.
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As the conflict of "better camera" is increasingly fighting with "thin & light phone", I'm beginning to think about flipping the script: what if Apple shifted a model from phone with a camera add-on to designing the best camera they can, that also happens to have touch screen phone + texting + apps. In other words, more of a camera form factor vs. the phone form factor. That would open up plenty of room for maximum quality camera functionality and the phone stuff could much more easily be worked onto that kind of body.
No, this does NOT involve holding a camera up to one's ear to make/take a call- buds cover the ear & mic parts as they do now for people wanting to use the screen while they are on calls. I use an iPad Mini to also be my phone the very same way. Works great!
Camera physics basically beg for more depth and bigger lenses to let more light in. The phone form factor is trying to be thin, light, etc. Those 2 things are basically increasingly at odds. Apple needs "bigger" & "heavier" to deliver a much better camera. iPhones needs "thinner" & "lighter" to avoid becoming a tablet if not laptop.
So maybe Apple should take a crack at a camera (first) approach that has phone features glommed on... instead of only continuing to try to jam "more camera" onto a phone?
Traditional cameras hang around a neck or shoulder, so the whole "can't fit any bigger in my pocket" thing is resolved. Cameras are naturally 2-handed use, so it can get fully away from those still recalling the old "one handed use" argument when "perfect" was 3.5" and then 4" screen phones and phablets were called abominations, etc.
Another option: maybe split those back out into two things for one model... an iPhone with only a front-facing camera... more like the old iPod Touch design or earlier gen iPhones. Conceptually that would be a much cheaper iPhone that still runs all apps, still is a full phone and texting machine. Front facing is flush and still supports FaceTime and Selfies. Maybe a much more modest camera on back (like the early ones) or no camera at all for even lower cost. Some could buy that as phone and shift their own "better camera" objectives to an actually better (dedicated) camera.
Now, none of that says that ALL iPhones should go that way. I'm simply imagining ONE model or an offshoot product where the part that keeps demanding bigger & bigger, thicker, etc becomes the focus... and the parts that make the device a phone, texting & app device can easily be worked on to that type of product. Is it really a big leap from touch screen cameras that already exist to build the iPhone parts on...
Seems Apple could take a great shot at this and deliver a new product that seems much more camera than phone... but also does both. And that would give them many years of evolutionary opportunity by not having to only try to re-work more camera into a skinny, rectangular slab not fundamentally supporting the physics of great photography.
"But that product could never fit in a pocket." Seems like phones with even better cameras are heading that way already to me. The foldable phones that deliver another "more" want (screen), will need at least one half being "as thick" if not thicker than the bricks now if they are going to have today's phone cameras built in. For example, Apple could NOT put today's iPhone on a meat slicer and split it perfectly in half, hinge those parts so that the folded whole is no thicker than today's slab AND have the depth in either half to deliver today's cameras (without much more protrusion). So if one half has to be at least about as thick as the slab now (for camera physics to work), a foldable iPhone must be "thicker" when closed (IF it's going to keep trying to be today's phone camera too).
I imagine phone designers want to make the phone like the old rumors of "a few stacked credit cards thick." Kicking those rear cameras out seems key to having any potential at that target. Else, to keep improving the camera part, it seems that "thicker" is needed (physics won't change even for Apple).
If we isolate the phone parts from the camera, could those perhaps move to other Apple products? Apple camera plus an iPad that runs the iPhone core (phone) app (buds & mic for calls- I do exactly this now)? Maybe Watch takes some of the phone functionality (hello Dick Tracy)? Macs take some phone functionality (I recall making phone calls with (Skype on) Macs all the way back in the early 2000s and I likely text more on my Mac than my iDevice now)?
Or again, maybe take a leap into a new space to "revolutionize" cameras by- in part- bringing major iPhone features to that form factor? If it's good enough for Bond...
...why not?
- "Moneypenny, how long until Samesung copies this one?"
- "Our agents haven't got that information yet but we suspect about 8-10 days from now."
- "Shall I break out the BIG lens?"
- "Oh James!"
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It's unfortunate that companies like Apple are pushing to get rid of physical buttons because they are too luxurious and expensive. This was always Tesla's approach, since Elon is similarly obsessed with squeezing every dime out of margins. Physical buttons are a sublime, high-end experience not in keeping with Apple's current de-contented philosophy of offering less for more. Physical buttons will continue to evolve to being the ultra-high end of any market. Porsche just learned this, and is getting rid of haptic virtual buttons to bring more physical buttons back with 2024 models (starting with Cayenne). The irony is that many Apple fanbois will hail virtual buttons as an "evolution" or "improvement" without realizing it's based on profit, not UX.
pro cam should be a pro cam. a phone with a camera is always a phone. mobile DAC's does'nt fire up 500 watt speakers. they are made for headphones. very few phone producers try'd modular design for something like that - it never worked out. look how ugly the camera set is in the iphones now already - more funny parts like that would be a non-seller. i don't know if it exists, but cam - producers could add more smart stuff in they're cams; there is more space because they are already bricks. but the idea is great...
you got your point. on the other hand is it not really necessary to add for every single thing a button. i think less buttons as possible. it takes just space away. and quasi everything you can do anyway on the display. it's all about taste...
why? today's tec moved completely to usb-c. even my old thinkpad has one usb-c port. one cable for everything is much better.
I can’t think of anything else exciting they might be announcing this year 😄 🥽
It seems iPhone rumours keep getting more duller every year, hence the need to look further ahead. Hopefully the IPhone 16 pro max or ultra or whatever gets a larger display, and we get a long overdue design overhaul.